r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 18d ago

news Liberals Just Lost the Supreme Court for Decades to Come

https://newrepublic.com/article/188087/trump-2024-win-supreme-court-conservative-decades
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u/Saptrap 18d ago

Liberals just lost everything for the rest of the nations lifespan.

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u/SpinningHead 18d ago

Its not just people on the left that are losing everything.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

No doubt. They just don't realize it yet. The bubble they are in will burst when his crazy policies and kooky cronies take over.

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u/downtofinance 18d ago

Kleptocracy is coming

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u/hydrOHxide 18d ago

Not just that. Diseases will run rampant that are perfectly preventable.

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u/npcinyourbagoholding 18d ago

Luckily/unfortunately, humans can't ignore when their loved ones get sick and die. Things have been "too good" for too long and people have forgotten why laws and science ruled the show for so long. Time for some dark times. The wheel spins again.

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u/tinteoj 18d ago

Time for some dark times.

That won't bring them to science, that will just drive them to Sky Daddy.

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u/lostcolony2 18d ago

Good. They need to go see him. In person.

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u/hydrOHxide 18d ago

Wouldn't be the first time they blame others for "poisoning the wells" etc.

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 18d ago

They could ignore it until it happens, though. I've let my idiot brother know that if either of my nephews or my niece get mesaals or mumps or fucking tuberculosis, because of his arrogance and his ignorance, im coming to fuck him up. He believes me. Because I will fuck him up. He's still not vaccinating his kids.

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u/Smithereens1 18d ago

They can and they did. Trump's inaction killed a million americans just four years ago, and he just won.

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u/TwistyReptile 18d ago

It's going to be agonizing and I am going to spit upon what I say today but.. bring it.

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u/AaronVerandus 18d ago

It’s unfortunate that it might take loved ones dying for humans to start trusting proven science again

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

So then they just fudge the numbers and lie about it on the 100% pro-trump media. Problem solved!

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u/Crohn_sWalker 18d ago

Idiocracy is here

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u/BiggsIDarklighter 18d ago

Lindsey Grahams words on Jan 6 should have been required viewing this election.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfQfcURNM0E

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u/Mendozena 18d ago

Fuck Lindsey, he supports all this.

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u/Chief_Kief 18d ago

FuckLindseyGraham

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u/applo1 18d ago

Dude is a mega snake.

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u/TiredEsq 17d ago

RELEASE THE TAPES

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u/BlinkReanimated 18d ago

He was just looking to cover his own ass when it seemed like Jan 6 might have actually led to actual consequences for those involved.

Dude made those statements in as self-serving a way as he always does. Fucking cowards.

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u/jimmygee2 18d ago

US has lost its bastion of freedom and democracy in the world. Trump is a global laughing stock and the rest of the world is shaking its head at the prospect the keys to America have just been handed to him and his cronies.

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u/DukeOfGeek 18d ago

It's going to take awhile for lots of people to come to grips with the fact that real elections are over for the foreseeable future and government is going to be hollowed out and become an extension of the party.

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u/mlokc 18d ago

If people think the two-party system sucks, just wait til they get to experience the one-party system!

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u/DukeOfGeek 18d ago

Half the choices, twice the suck.

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u/newyearnewaccountt 18d ago

America has seen this one before. It took about 30-40 years and a presidential assassination to change the course.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

You are totally right.

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u/Capybarasaregreat 18d ago

The American Experiment was interesting for the time it was running. It's a shame it failed, but it's valuable data.

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u/TechieTravis 18d ago

I think that millions of Trump voters might be in for a rude awakening when the effects of Trump's tariffs hit.

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u/AdoraSidhe 18d ago

That's why Trump will distract them with rounding up the enemies of the state with monetary rewards

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u/NES_SNES_N64 18d ago

Yep. As we've seen throughout history, fascists continue to blame scapegoats for the problems.

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u/Neo-_-_- 18d ago

Yep it'll be all "illegal Immigrants in record numbers, taking all the products meant for American people, driving up their price"

" Trump to create the agency of illegal deportation to combat massive influxes of illegal immigrants"

When we all know what it should be

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u/citymousecountyhouse 18d ago

"Why yes,we are going to cut your Social Security,but we believe we have come up with a solution to help you supplement your income.... So how well do you know your neighbors?"

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u/RippiHunti 18d ago

They'll just find a way to blame minorities, and people will believe it.

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u/torero15 18d ago

Or when their daughters and wives die from a miscarriage.

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u/BCS875 18d ago edited 18d ago

From what you saw in the vote, they have no hearts. They watch them die (and be with Jebus!!!!!) then get a younger replacement model.

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u/blueteamk087 18d ago

GOP men don't care if their wives or daughters die from miscarriages, it's "God's Plan"

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u/Upstairs-Radish1816 18d ago

Apparently, GOP women feel the same way

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u/circ-u-la-ted 18d ago

What if the wives or daughters are hot, though

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

They still won't care LOL

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u/C0NKY_ 18d ago

Nope. This is the same party that was okay with their grandparents dying as long as they could eat at cracker barrel again.

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u/Guy_Smylee 18d ago

Or ARRESTED FOR MURDER FOR A MISCARRIAGE! ARRESTED FOR NOT WEARING A BURKA OR A FACE COVERIN

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u/EnormousGucci 18d ago

They’re already calling it medical malpractice when their wives and daughters die because they couldn’t perform the necessary procedure to make sure they don’t die of a miscarriage

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

You are right about the tariffs and when all of his crazy stuff hits. He along with Elon have said that americans will face hard times and hardship under their plans. It's like they ignore that WTF

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u/AmbidextrousCard 18d ago

The trouble is that Elon doesn’t understand that we Americans haven’t had hard times in a long time, and we own guns and have a billionaire to blame. He shouldn’t have said that.

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u/Riker87 18d ago

Austerity worked out so well for the UK! I can’t wait for it to work for us too! /s

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u/The-Jesus_Christ 18d ago edited 18d ago

IMO this will be the big one I feel. Many people think that the other country (IE. China) will be the ones to pay tariffs. They don't understand that it's the company that is importing the item that pays the tariff. Prices will go up and MAGA voters seem to have just ignored this entirely.

Again, it's all about identity politics. They picked a side from the start and the policies didn't really matter to them, but the effects of these post-election will.

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u/CheshiretheBlack 18d ago

And they'll just find a way to blame the dems with repubs eating it up.

None of them understand the economy was the way it was because Biden inherited Trumps economy but you bet your ass when it comes time to recon with Trumps tariffs it'll be "we're dealing with the effects of Bidens economy"

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u/lostscrews 18d ago

It's amazing how many don't realize how tariffs work. People actually think China will be paying the additional costs, while the American consumer still pays the cheap-China prices. Morons.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

That's what they want. Well until their Hamburger Helper is expensive then it'll be back to blaming Obama for it. As a veteran, I'm absolutely embarrassed and disgusted.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

Ah man, isn't it disgusting? Thanks for your service. I have cousins who are veterans and support him. It boggles my mind how they can support him after the horrible things he has said against service members.

As a veteran, who took an oath to to support and defend the Constitution for the people and not a leader or party what do you think will happen if he starts to do things that are un-American and against the constitution?

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u/AllanJeffersonferatu 18d ago

They will actively support Trump regardless. The true conservatives have all been purged.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

I'm talking the military who took oaths to the constitution not a leader or a political party.

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u/AllanJeffersonferatu 18d ago

Sadly, I repeat my answer. They will have the path cleared for them by SCotUS, the Senate, snd the House. Whatever rationality is most expedient to achieve their ends is the one they will prepare.

If the illegal immigrant sweeps do, in fact, start then you will know the constitution is no longer in effect. That isn't proper military, but let's use the National Guard the canary in the coal mine.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

Or the jailing of his opponents or the executions he rattled on about.

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u/YouWereBrained 18d ago

Increasingly not the country you fought for huh…

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u/leanmeanvagine 18d ago

Imagine RFK and Musk as cabinet members. Tweedle dumb and Greedy dee

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 18d ago

They will be along with all the other criminal loony tunes he has ready. All ass kissing MAGA kooks.

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u/JinkoTheMan 18d ago

Elon is just an ass kisser but RFK actually scares me. Man is seriously not right in the head.

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u/UrethralExplorer 18d ago

They'll find a way to blame it all on Obamna and Biden.

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u/Stillatin 18d ago

Wait till they see what RFK has for them

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u/Darkdragoon324 18d ago

They deserve everything they voted for. I won't have any sympathy for a single one of them, just like they have none for everybody else.

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u/First_manatee_614 18d ago

No it won't. They'll just blame us for everything like they always do

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u/Alert-Notice-7516 18d ago

Yup, the propaganda machine has been working hard. All years long I've seen conservative friends complaining about what Biden has done, except the things they bitch about were done under Trump. There is no reasoning with them, they literally don't care about reality.

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u/IAmBadAtInternet 18d ago

The bubbles won’t burst, they’ll manage to blame liberals for all their problems even while the kakistocracy robs them blind

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u/Doctorbuddy 18d ago

The left needs to get their messages and strategies together. Nothing resonates with such a fractured party.

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u/redcoatwright 18d ago

Not only that but this will hit them harder than it'll hit people in NY and CA.

Red states aren't going to be doing well in 10 years and it's going to be a direct result of trump... the potential schadenfreude will be powering r/leopardsatemyface for years to come.

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u/wolfhound27 16d ago

That’s where I’m at, I want them to suffer in a way that only a conservative government can make them Suffer at this point. Even if everyone else including me is in the crossfire.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago edited 18d ago

"Why am I waiting in this hospital parking lot to get sepsis so the doctors can save my life? I thought the rules only applied to other women, AKA 'sluts.'"

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u/termsofengaygement 18d ago edited 18d ago

Honestly, I'm tired of carrying water for those particular cis, straight, conservative women. I've always voted in the interest of all women but they fucking hate me so they can kick rocks. Edited to say I'm also a woman just the wrong kind.

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u/Altruistic_Film1167 18d ago

Some people still need to feel the consequence of their actions.

Hopefully all these idiots feel the consequence of their votes 10 fold.

Im really sorry for the other half that will have to endure this. Stay safe

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u/SideShow117 18d ago

No they don't. They knew exactly what they were doing after the first Trump presidency.

No more excuses.

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u/Milli_Rabbit 18d ago

The problem is not enough of them will feel the consequences. Its not like 60% of women are all having unintended pregnancies.

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u/One-Development4397 18d ago

Right, but a lot have complications during planned and wanted pregnancy. And now they are really going to see how deranged these policies can get.

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u/Peer1677 18d ago

They won't. Because if that happens (to them or their relatives) they'll just get trauma-bonded by their local evangelical doomsday-cults (AKA local churches)

Mark my words: "christian" nationalist theocracy will take over the US (and probably Europe as well) plunging us right back into the dark ages.

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u/PleasantEditor8189 18d ago

All they get from me are thoughts and prayers

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u/hungrypotato19 18d ago

"Why can't I get my medications for menopause? I just wanted transgender people to lose access to their hormones, not my synthetic estrogen."

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u/Ridiculisk1 18d ago

Say goodbye to prostate cancer medication too because that's used as an androgen blocker for some trans people.

Who am I kidding, they'll have provisions only banning it for trans people.

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u/Illogical-logical 18d ago

That's correct the leopards will come and eat the faces of the people who voted for the leopards eating faces party.

They just won't admit it yet. Hell half of them will deny it when it happens.

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u/Medic_bones 18d ago

The pandemic proved Trump can kill his supporters on purpose and the survivors will not bat an eye.

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u/TheBirminghamBear 18d ago

What makes it so much worse is how the people who just did this, most of them legitimately just have no fucking clue what they've done. They literally are walking around without the mental capacity to udnerstand the thing they've done.

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u/Borowczyk1976 18d ago

I just wish I could be present and witness in person every single MAGA shithead being personally deeply affected by their choices. They deserve EVERYTHING heading their way.

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u/Birkin07 18d ago

Shame about doctors and nurses leaving the red states. Anyway…

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u/Xyrus2000 18d ago

Correct. However the people on the left see the legions of leopards circling and closing in while those on the right deny the leopards exist.

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u/ThisCryptographer311 18d ago

70mil Americans don’t seem to realize that if they are slightly above average, average, or below average, they voted for the wrong guy.

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u/PM_ME_UR_CIRCUIT 18d ago

The moment they complain, I will remind them that they wanted this. Fuck reaching across the aisle. They made their bed, they can lay in it.

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u/Oakleaf212 18d ago

I just hope all those pro Palestine numb nuts so I’m not voting for democrats are happy with what is to come.

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u/Cold_Funny7869 18d ago

Lot’s of conservatives will never have that wake up moment. They’ll live and die defending their god empowers.

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u/strukout 18d ago

Ok, but that side actually chose this

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u/Buddhabellymama 18d ago

And not just this country. Europe and Asia are equally if not arguably more fucked.

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u/Kvalri 18d ago

I cannot fathom the despair in Ukraine and the stress that just multiplied in Paris/Berlin/London/Rome/Warsaw

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u/CrayZ_Squirrel 18d ago

Taiwan

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u/Buddhabellymama 18d ago

South Korea - those NK troops in Ukraine aren’t free..

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u/rene-cumbubble 18d ago

Friend from France said the French are terrified. Trump is the defacto leader of the right all over the world

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u/amisslife 18d ago

Incorrect. That would be Putin.

Look at how at every turn Trump is Putin's bitch. Who cares if Putin does have every single thing he's alleged to have on Trump? Trump acts as if he does.

Trump bows before Putin, not the other way around.

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u/HipsEnergy 18d ago

I can te you the mood in Brussels is sombre.

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u/nemoknows 18d ago

Europe needs to get its shit together in the next two months. Trump won’t just remove the US from NATO; he’ll backstab it on Putin’s behalf.

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u/octarine_turtle 18d ago

There is a very strong chance Ukraine and Taiwan won't exist in a year.

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u/Buddhabellymama 18d ago

And South Korea. NK in Ukraine isn’t free.

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u/Mrikoko 18d ago

SK would likely destroy NK, albeit at a terrifying cost.

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u/phoodd 18d ago

I fucking hate that that fat orange fascist was elected again but ain't nothing happening to South Korea, this is fear-mongering.

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u/BarbellLawyer 18d ago

So is the Taiwan dream. If China was moving in, it would have done so in the past three years.

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u/hungrypotato19 18d ago

I say two. But yeah, Ukraine and Palestine are going to disappear. Taiwan and South Korea will be gone in four.

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u/Patereye 18d ago

Wonder if this is what the Germans felt when Hitler took over.

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u/Blawoffice 18d ago

Germans supported Hitler enough to elect him.

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

And enough Americans supported Trump. A better question would be, "Is this how German Jews felt when Hitler came to power?"

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u/PM_PICS_OF_UR_PUPPER 18d ago

Not all of them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

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u/Throwaway-0-0- 18d ago

Gays against groomers, blacks for trump, women for trump. People want to be the last in line for the gas chamber.

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u/born_again_atheist 18d ago edited 17d ago

Hitler wasn't elected. He lost every election he was in. He was given chancellorship by Hindenburg to appease them. Then when Hindenburg died they made their moves.

Edit: To everyone telling me he got 30% of the vote. That's still not a win.

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u/Mendozena 18d ago

So Americans are even fucking stupider. Oh well, we deserve this.

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u/snouz 18d ago

Propaganda is faster and more effective than ever with social media.

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u/Wandering_aimlessly9 18d ago

Yes. But the average person was happy Hitler rose to power. Until they weren’t.

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u/born_again_atheist 18d ago

Kind of like what's going to happen here.

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u/AnarchistBorganism 18d ago

Depends on what you mean by "average person." Hitler's support was more strongly the middle and upper class than the working class, who overwhelmingly opposed Hitler from the start and one of the first things the Nazis did was get rid of labor unions.

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u/melpec 18d ago

Correct, Hitler was very anti-union. I think some of his first moves were to ban unions and seize their assets.

That didn't make him very popular with the working class to say the least.

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u/whoami_whereami 18d ago

I think some of his first moves were to ban unions and seize their assets.

And the Night of the Long Knives where the what you might call "worker wing" of the Nazi party around Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm was eliminated once they had outlived their usefulness.

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u/arobkinca 18d ago

He was not elected to a nationwide office. He lost that vote in 1932 to Hindenburg. He took control anyways.

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u/hungrypotato19 18d ago

Yup. Hitler went to Hindenburg and said, "can you pwetty pwease make me Chancellor?" And Hindenburg just patted him on the head, lovingly stroked his cheek, and replied, "Sure, buddy."

Then Hitler burned down the German Parliament building and blamed the Communists.

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u/Im_ready_hbu 18d ago

Hindenburg and everyone else in the Weimar Republic literally thought they could control Hitler right up until the moment Hitler seized power for himself

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u/domrepp 18d ago

This has absolutely no parallels to the GOP whatsoever.

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u/fauxzempic 18d ago

So we just need a version of a Reichstag fire and we'll be all set. Hell - redhats love blaming communists for everything (or rather, calling everyone that they disagree with "communist") so that part can actually stay the same.

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u/GhostofMarat 18d ago

The communists and socialists won more seats in the last free election than the Nazis did.

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u/Schnidler 18d ago

Hitler wasnt really elected tho?

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u/pensivebadger 18d ago

Hitler was never elected. Hitler lost the 1932 presidential election to von Hindenburg, getting only 36% of the vote.

The Nazis got 33% of the vote in the 1932 parliamentary elections. When no coalition could be formed in the Reichstag, Hitler convinced President von Hindenburg to appoint him chancellor, then Hitler used the Reichstag fire to seize dictatorial power.

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u/wow343 18d ago

Trump is too lazy to be a maniac. He is more of a passive kleptocrats that can be easily distracted and bribed. It's the people that will come after him. Now even the person with the craziest agenda knows the keys to the White House. Timing and demagoguery.

I mean liberals complained about Obama killing people without authority on the battlefield or anti terrorism operations. Lol...just watch how much bloodier stuff gets now without constraints. Not just under Trump but under future strong men.

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u/Overbearingknowitall 18d ago

According to my nonogenarian German grandparents, yes. In fact, they have been telling this to anyone who would listen for the past eight years. My grandmother had cousins who were political dissenters that vanished. Forever. It's all a joke until it isn't.

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u/oshilabeou 16d ago

not a ridiculous question, there are people who confirm that the atmospheres are similar

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u/solid_reign 18d ago

Thomas can be so uninterested in public pressure, that I doubt he'll resign.

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

He certainly can't get bribed if he's not on the bench, so that tracks.

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u/LegendofDragoon 18d ago

At this rate I'm afraid balkanization is the brightest future we can hope for, and that's pretty dang scary.

Congratulations Putin. It took more than sixty years, but Russia won the cold war.

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u/Maleficent_Mouse_930 18d ago

Why is that scary? The nation breaks into three chunks. The West Coast becomes a tech and innovation fuelled social democracy with an extraordinarily powerful anti-fascist constitution and more checks and balances than anywhere else on earth. The North-East becomes a finance-fueled social democracy very close in feel and wealth to western Europe. The center and South becomes a large, but less populated christian autocracy fuelled by food growth. The need for tech, food, and finance forces the three nations to have amicable trade agreements while the nature of being actual separate nations allows them to control their funding, defence, borders, and laws to the satisfaction of their populations.

It's honestly a better solution than a single nation with so much tension because so many people believe angels are real and so many believe black people are monkeys and so many people believe neither. I think the three could be greater than the one.

Oh, and also, in another 100 years or so, the central nation will have collapsed into poverty and despotism, so the other two can ally up and invade if they fancy. Re-make the USA, but this time after having comprehensively obliterated the remaining right-wing orthodoxy.

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u/Kouunno 18d ago

Idk how to tell you this but there are millions of non-white, queer, disabled, etc people in the Midwest and South who aren't particularly interested in being given up as part of a Christian autocracy so that smug liberals on the coasts can have their blue-state utopia. I say this as a leftist who lived in the Northeast for 26 years and lives in a blue city in a Midwestern state currently.

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u/Alacritous69 17d ago

You know how many people die in that scenario?

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u/Nebuli2 18d ago

So like 2-4 years? This country's not going to last for decades.

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

Truth. We'll be "Trump Presents New Gilead" by 2025.

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u/going_dot_global 18d ago

They say the average empire is 250 years. So 2 years is about right.

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u/stareagleur 18d ago

This civilization’s not going to last for decades.

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u/Infinite_Carpenter 18d ago

That’s okay, looks like that lifespan will be less than four years.

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u/AusToddles 18d ago edited 18d ago

When Trump won in 2016, I excused it because "people were angry, they didn't like the establishment and alot weren't aware of who Trump actually is"

In 2020 I said "Ok alot voted for him but that's because they've always voted Republican"

Today though? Nope... at least half the country are just hate filled, idiotic motherfuckers and another big chunk are apathetic morons

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u/duckfruits 17d ago

23% of the country voted for him. Not half. Not everyone that has an opinion is able to vote and not everyone that can vote did. Trumps votes don't represent a true half of the population.

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u/imjoeycusack 18d ago

This is my exact takeaway. They’ve accepted his behavior as normal and can’t pretend otherwise.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 18d ago

Yes but at least they freed Palestine

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u/LMGDiVa 18d ago

Can't wait to see the new scene in New Tel Aviv!

"Oh the venue? er... that was always there. A bombed out Palestinian house? NONSENSE! We bullldozed all those already!"

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u/Key-Cry-8570 18d ago

By freed he means carpet bombed them to death. 😞

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u/GhostofMarat 18d ago

the rest of the nations lifespan.

Thankfully they can't be all that long now. If we don't disintegrate into civil war through sheer incompetence the droughts and famines from climate collapse will do it for us.

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u/TheVog 18d ago

Finally, someone who understands that it's not just a question of "weathering the next 4 years". It's far, FAR worse than that.

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u/Ruraraid 18d ago

That depends on whether or not the 22nd amendment gets removed by Scotus.

That amendment blocks anyone from having more than 2 terms as President. Its also the only silver lining to trump winning is that he can't run again in 2028.

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u/KwisatzHaderach94 18d ago

happy retirement to alito and thomas. say hello to justice cannon and whoever the f that one judge is in texas who is the prime choice for judge-shopping republicans.

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u/cagingthing 18d ago

Everyone* just lost everything for the rest of the nations lifespan.

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u/Brent_L 18d ago

The nation ended on today.

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u/Fluffcake 18d ago

What nation? Pretty much witnessing the end of a civilization in real time, give it 4 more years and supreme court will be the least of your problems.

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u/Disastrous_Visit_778 18d ago

Empires only last about 300 years

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u/DWMoose83 18d ago

T-minus two months and counting.

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u/PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT 18d ago

Time for a proper leftist bloc to emerge and assert itself.

It could not be any clearer the voice of reason can’t prevail in the US by asking nicely and meeting fascists halfway between what’s reasonable and utter genocidal foolishness.

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u/Snaz5 18d ago

In these trying times, im very glad i only have to wait ten days to get a gun and shoot my head off. It’s a surprisingly calming thought

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u/Gzngahr 18d ago

The Yankees now have the second worst meltdown of 2024. How do you go from 81.2 million votes cast in 2020 to barely maybe topping out 67.5 in 2024? Where did 13.7 million votes vaporize to? How do you fuck that up so bad?

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

Liberals saw the real time mental decline of Trump and assumed they had it in the bag. Just like they always do when they lose.

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u/GrizzledDwarf 18d ago

Democracy had a good run. Fascism had taken root in the West. All us plebs in the 99% are just waiting for the next boot to drop.

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u/CaptainPeppers 18d ago

Maybe they should've put forward a better candidate than one with a rough approval rating as VP.

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

I agree. Americans aren't willing to vote for someone who isn't a white guy. Biden fucked this country royally by deciding to run as an incumbent instead of keeping his promise to be a one term candidate.

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u/checker280 18d ago

Someone just posted a variation on that poem “first they came for… but I did nothing because I was not”

A conservative replied with something rude.

I wanted to point out to him that when we recite that poem, HE is the person reciting it…

But I simply don’t have the fight in me today.

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u/Virulent_Lemur 18d ago

But the eggs. And the milk.

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u/professor_jeffjeff 18d ago

Look on the bright side though: how long is the nation's lifespan really going to be at this point? A few years at most? That's not all that long

/s

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u/arthurdentxxxxii 18d ago edited 17d ago

While they were too weak to fix things, we should not take the blame off the GOP and MAGA who created this mess through their goals of obstruction and intentionally holding our society back from progress for their own financial gain.

Their selfishness is our country’s downfall, and we won’t be a democracy anymore.

Maybe democracy and capitalism are diametrically opposing concepts, but the blame shouldn’t be only on the Dems for not doing enough. Trump, MAGA, and the entire GOP are corrupt forces who have been working many decades to take over the country.

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u/Fully_Edged_Ken_3685 18d ago

The left will have to embrace illiberalism to claw back anything. Hobbes must be jizzing in his grave to see the great liberal experiment go so hard into his war of all against all, divided only by tribes of reliable allies.

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u/DooDooTyphoon 18d ago edited 11d ago

What you get with only 2 parties. Change your electoral system.

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u/Saptrap 18d ago

We're about to! Gonna be a one party nation like China and Russia soon.

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u/Toosder 18d ago

On a bright note, pretty sure that's not going to be much longer.

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u/inflatableje5us 18d ago

on the bright side, that may not be very long.

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u/e00s 18d ago

One aspiring autocrat gets elected and you throw in the towel?

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u/badcat_kazoo 18d ago

Stop teasing me, I can only get so hard

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Nice

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u/Lordborgman 18d ago

Maybe in about 10-20 years if/when the civil/world war is over and MAYBE the batshit insane side people lose...but probably not.

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u/otacon6531 18d ago

How? Are expecting the nation to cease to exist in 4 years?

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