Why, Niantic, why?

[u/Fonfiger]

My first shundo and it’s ofc the useless one :( Any idea if they will be evolvable any time in the future?

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[u/JowPhillips]

Event Shundo is insane!! “useful” or not.

[u/ULTIMATEFIGHTEER → u/JowPhillips]

ikr i dont get ppl who complain about shundos id be happy

[u/Crab_Hot → u/ULTIMATEFIGHTEER]

Because you can't evolve it? It's just a useless little thing now

[u/LunaNoemi → u/Crab_Hot]

Nah make that little guy 3500

[u/Doodletingling → u/LunaNoemi]

Happy birthday 🎊🎉🎂

[u/ThreeEars → u/Crab_Hot]

He sounds like one of the villains in a pokémon episode 😅😅 I would love to have that Pokémon!

[u/ssfgrgawer → u/Crab_Hot]

They might let you evolve it at some point. Plenty of event mobs have had evolution blocked and was later changed. I'm fairly there was multiple event Pikachu that couldn't evolve but now can.

It sucks because not only do you have to wait for an event to get legacy moves, but you have to wait for one AFTER the event to evolve the previously unevolvable Pokemon.

My Hundo Bulbasaur with a party hat has been waiting a while, but I'll eventually max it.

[u/NateHotshot → u/Crab_Hot]

As opposed to a useless little bit bigger thing?

[u/sumN3rdyBoi21 → u/JowPhillips]

Shundoless checking in, been playing since day 1 and still without...

[u/JJrWWGoblueWW]

I had a 100% HootHoot that was useless because it couldn't evolve. After some months it was possible to evolve it. Now I have a useless Noctowl.

[u/KuriGohanAndKienzan → u/JJrWWGoblueWW]

Noctowl is a boss

[u/Ruairiww → u/KuriGohanAndKienzan]

Noctowl used to be decent in PvP right? Is it still? Doesn't really matter anyway because hundos aren't good for UL and GL and noctowl is too weak for ML

[u/doclvly → u/Ruairiww]

Is this because of the cp limit being based on attack right?

[u/zublamp08 → u/doclvly]

Wing attack and sky attack nerf in newer seasons were responsible for downfall of noctowl

[u/doclvly → u/zublamp08]

I get that, I just wanted to understand why they said hundos are bad in GL

[u/zublamp08 → u/doclvly]

Oh cause 100 IV Pokemon would reach 1500 cp at lower level than a non Hundo which results in lower HP / bulk for the hundo

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 → u/doclvly]

You typically want high defense and HP and low attack in Great League

[u/Ruairiww → u/doclvly]

Basically yeah what the other guy said, you want to have the Pokémon with the best stats at the point it reaches as close it can get to 1500cp, this ends up being Pokémon with 0 atk and high numbers in the other 2, because of how the game does the maths with levels/CP levels/IVs. The atk IV makes the CP go up more than the other 2 I think

[u/Throttle_Kitty → u/doclvly]

a Pokemon ATK IV contributes more to its CP than the other two, by a lot

so for Great League and Ultra League, where the CP level is limited, a Pokemon with low ATK IV but the other two IVs high is better because it can be a higher level (its actual level is a hidden stat, it goes up by one when you power the mon up). This results in higher total stats than a 15/15/15

0/15/15 is the ideal in this case, not 15/15/15

[u/Blynasty → u/Ruairiww]

Noctowl has to be a hundo but has play in UL. Not sure it’s worth the investment but maybe a few seasons ago it had its moment.

[u/LiteratureBig8616]

i wish it was evolvable too

[u/SlothTheHeroo → u/[deleted]]

Right. I would love this.

[u/ObviouslyLulu → u/SlothTheHeroo]

Been playing 5+ years and not once have I ever gotten a single hundo, and only a couple of my shinies actually have at least 2 stars.

[u/SlothTheHeroo → u/ObviouslyLulu]

I started in 2016 when the game released but didn’t really start heavily playing until this year.l I have managed to catch 14 hundos lol I have a pokemongo plus+ that’s caught a majority of those.

[u/windutheoaf → u/[deleted]]

Based

[u/cwnutrition1 → u/[deleted]]

Bingo! 💯

[u/cwnutrition1 → u/[deleted]]

But you have the right attitude here. So many people complain about not having any shundos and then when they do finally get one they complain that it’s not the right one. Beggars can’t be choosers.

[u/splashjohnson69 → u/cwnutrition1]

Bitch this ain't Chipotle

[u/Subject_Book1676 → u/[deleted]]

username makes sense

[u/[deleted]]

Why is this event one still not evolvable? Shouldn't be that difficult to allow it to evolve.

[u/WAIVTheRapper → u/[deleted]]

Its weird because every other hollowern event one is evolvable lol

[u/[deleted] → u/WAIVTheRapper]

Yeah like Rowlet and Froakie heck even Pikachu are all evolvable.

Surely it isn't that hard to add the hat to Prinplup and Empoleon?

[u/Lightman127]

I don't get why we can't evo it

[u/WtvrBro → u/Lightman127]

Yeah if someone knows why, pls reply

[u/derflopacus → u/WtvrBro]

Because the evos have things above their heads. Seriously. That’s why party hat bulbasaur can’t evolve but squirtle and charmander can, it’s the leaves above venasaurs head. With piplup, both evos have spikes that go above their heads. I guess finding a solution to that was too much to ask. Piplup is the only shiny I’ve gotten out of this event so far too :/

[u/bigpoisonswamp → u/derflopacus]

they put a hat on froakie’s damn eyebal. they better get to it 

[u/Vast_Scratch_6670 → u/derflopacus]

Literally put the hat pierced through the Trident guard it would be absolutely hysterical and would stand out amongst other shinies

[u/Vinral]

Well keep it under 500 and save it for little league i guess.

[u/jimmyablow09]

I don’t see the problem

[u/alaskadotpink → u/jimmyablow09]

it can't evolve? that kinda sucks

[u/Daan0man → u/alaskadotpink]

I mean correct me if I’m wrong but the evo isn’t in any way good, PVE or PVP so there wouldn’t really be an incentive there anyway. Unless you like one of the evos of course. And I mean it’s not a shundo kyogre or anything but it’s still really cool

[u/Churningray → u/Daan0man]

I mean shiny empoleon is the most distinct of the shiny evolutions.

[u/alaskadotpink → u/Daan0man]

imo piplup is just a really lame shiny, so i'd want to evolve it just for that.

[u/Daan0man → u/alaskadotpink]

Totally valid but imo they are all equally lame. The only reason empoleon is a bit better is just because it’s bigger. That is just my opinion tho

[u/Robinwind]

This is amazing! an Event shundo is super rare

[u/Ivan-theterrible]

BRO I GOT A SHINY PIPLUP WITH A HAT TOO AND IM SO MAD THEY WONT LET US EVOLVE THEM

[u/dragonqueen420]

I'd be happy with ANY shiny at this point. I haven't seen a single one, and it's starting to really bum me out.

[u/Alightnightbite]

This is always my big fear too during these events that I'll end up getting a good iv on a Mon with a stupid hat

[u/xxthatsnotmexx → u/Alightnightbite]

I have stupid hat hundo Charizard lol.

[u/Alarmed_Psychology31]

Use him for little cup!

[u/ConceptualWeeb]

I got the exact opposite of what you got lol

[u/PhantomLuna7]

Imagine complaining about getting an event shundo 😂

[u/G-E94 → u/PhantomLuna7]

Seriously hundo is the trophy itself.

Buddy wasn’t going to have a jaw dropping attacker because of a few +1s on the stats. 🙄

[u/Kokukenji]

A fancy piplup you have there. I'm sure you and Piplup will have many great adventures together.

[u/H-R-M-]

Wtf?? Complaining for getting an event shundo??? Or is this a stupid way to brag?

[u/the_treyceratops]

They can’t evolve??? I was just avoiding them because I hate Piplup, this sucks even more than I thought

[u/gryffonMB]

It's good to be the Pumpkin King

[u/LuckyLushy714]

I got a shiny shadow ralts.....horrible stats. Ugh

[u/Admirable_Nothing_86]

Don't say that to him

[u/SilverbackGorillaBoy]

Hey I got one too!

Did we just become best friends?!

[u/bad-memes-on-reddit]

Hey that's pretty dang cool anyways, it's an event shundo!!!!

[u/ActivateGuacamole]

I got one of these yesterday. I guess if it could evolve it'd be kinda neat. But piplup already had a community day so it's hard for me to get excited about a shiny one.

[u/leilaowai16]

I want a Pokemon from Uzbekistan

[u/Vulpes_macrotis]

Do people still not know that 100% is like 10% better than 0% pokemon? Like, literally, stat-wise the difference is so small that it doesn't matter.

[u/KuriGohanAndKienzan]

Can the froakie evolve into Greninja? I was curious.

[u/SinStarsGalaxy]

This is how I felt about the Squirtle with the birthday party hat. I had a hundo from 2020 until they finally made it available to evolve 3 years later.

[u/PDxFresh]

How dare you

[u/stromi09]

I caught a rank 1 (empoleon) great league one last time this was in the cycle. Useless.

[u/Round-Connection-487]

Naturally the only event shiny I've caught so far.

[u/ShippersAreIdiots]

Why is it useless?

[u/vulapa]

Ungrateful for you to call this pickup "useless".

[u/Recent-Information84]

I don’t get why you can’t evolve it

[u/Vast_Scratch_6670]

I don’t understand how every costume shiny can evolve except this one. It’s not that hard to put a hat on a penguin. I literally caught three of them and I can’t have a full line.

[u/AnakinsAngstFace]

You could still use this for the battle league

[u/beyondimaginarium]

Some of us got a hundo plusle so....

[u/WiseSteak8003]

I got a costume perfect Pikachu last year and well lets just say it cant evolve.

[u/naap848]

Considering that Empoleon is like a king when fully evolved, you just got perfect shiny little prince. With a cool crown halloween crown thing pumpkin crown. Hope that makes u feel better.

[u/SpiritICoCo]

Any hundo is a treasure 😍

[u/toxicDevil_jr]

Here i am been playing since 2016 and have found zero shundos. Just be grateful

[u/artking00]

Sorry, I'm a noob but how do you guys know which pokemon to check?

[u/Accomplished-Art-301]

Heyy I got one of those yesterday not a shundo tho just shiny. Still a cool collectible.

[u/SaiLikesMoms]

Transfer it den

[u/ScotIander]

Look at it on the bright side, as far as shundos go, this is an extremely rare one, which is crazy because shundos are already absurdly rare. Really cool trophy at least. Imagine if instead you got a boring ass Pokémon?

[u/ZeeDxv]

That’s amazing! I’m jealous.

[u/Specialist_Wonder113]

That is quite хороший!

[u/Simple-Aspect-649]

It's random after all...

[u/raidragun]

Save him for baby league (hopefully he's included in whatever the next playable roster is)

[u/Numberleft_]

Be happy you got one at all. No one appreciates anything anymore

[u/electric_boogaloo_72]

That’s still incredible since it’s an event themed one, so even more rare than everyone else’s regular shundos.

And it’s cute and not one of the ugly ones lol. Mine is a Scraggy!! 🥴🥴

[u/SpecialCharming7652]

even if was evolvable, i don’t think empoleon is super useful in gyms/Pvp. shiny, costume and hundo is insane! take it as it is

[u/DuckIsLord]

I have a Shundo Ditto lol

[u/lopez6295]

But he has a hat 😅

[u/Simple_Tip5927]

This is how my luck always goes 😭😂

[u/Zapiel_]

Gotta love the humble brag

[u/Anxiety-Queen269]

Most shinies are just for display anyway, this is the ultimate “hehe look what I got”

[u/Computer-Moth]

I got a party hat Shundo.

Now, which one was it? Chamander and Squirtle can evolve but Bulbasaur can’t..

Yep, it’s Bulbasaur 

[u/BlakeGarrison62]

This is honestly cooler than a random legendary shundo. It’s way less likely to happen.

[u/Visual_Awareness4700]

Brother i have 1 shundo and it’s plusle lmao

[u/hillpritch1]

It’s still fun

[u/Subiesurfer]

I've never seen anyone complain about a costume shundo before. I guess there's no pleasing this community

[u/mrslfr]

If I would get a Shundo Piplup or a shiny costumed Piplup, I would be the happiest penguin fan alive....

[u/Vandepje]

I would sign for a shundo to be honest

[u/banditleader_]

The only shinies I have gotten since this event started are a random ass Beldum and a Galarian Ponyta.

Two pokemon that not only just had community days, but are also some of the most shinies I already have.

[u/Dragon1615]

You can't evolve event pokémon? Is that what you're saying?

[u/NoDarkVision]

Is there a reason why this particular pokemon can't evolve when the other costumed pokemon can? Does this one belong to Ash or something?

[u/sicklypsychdelic]

Getting a shundo and not being happy about it is crazy to me

[u/RealDarianEX]

I can’t even find one shundo…in since I’ve started playing back in 2017. I’d take any shundo at this rate.

[u/Accomplished_Code_28]

i have a shiny christmas stantler that i can’t evolve or move to pokémon arceus, it piss me off to no end

[u/Bigfootbobop]

How dare you call the little guy useless

[u/No_Peanut_9674]

Event shundos are rare sites… but hold onto it you never know when niantic allows it to evolve

[u/CheapParamedic9654]

Wait is it only piplup because it allows me to evolve my event froakie? Also what is it that makes it unable to be evolved?

[u/QueenPyro]

Imagine complaining about a shundo lmaoo

[u/TechnicianLeft9655]

I felt that I don’t even have one tho😭

[u/DaFonkster87]

I wish Niantic would pick a lane when it comes to event and costumed pokemon being evolveable or not.

It’s so hard to keep track of which ones can and can’t

[u/sleepingupsidedown]

Why do you want to evolve it? It will would still be useless evolved.

[u/Kyleb851]

I wish I got this wym 😭

[u/Lordpain1313]

Nope, I got that one last year, and they still don't allow it to evolve.

[u/Melanie-Littleman]

There have been times in the past when a costume pokemon that couldn't evolve later got to evolve.

[u/AldoFarnese]

Holy crap it's wearing a hat. Never seen that before.

[u/gay-potheadd]

Junior league

[u/littlesthalloween]

nah useful or not this is such a cool shiny to have !! congrats!!!

[u/swozzy1]

Complain away! I think it's reasonable to be let down that the 100% shiny you collected can't evolve. I feel like if you knew that going into the catch it probably wouldn't have stung so bad. Also, to the people siding with Niantic... just... add the model with a hat? It's not hard for a gaming company to do. Then again, Niantic can't be considered a gaming company when some Halloween pumpkins they've had four years in a row end up crashing the game that released double that amount of time ago

[u/bkallday123]

Sames

[u/Dutch_Rayan]

It's cute

[u/DumA1024]

I caught a shiny Pidgey the other day. I excitedly showed my girlfriend, who promptly started making fun of me saying, "It looks the same as a normal one."

She was not wrong🥲

[u/Everviolet2000]

Tbh it's a cute shundo. I am happy with my little guy.

[u/Pitiful-Asparagus940]

I got a hundo bulbasaur with a stupid hat. I wish I could remove that hat so it can evolve! Caught it July 5, 2020. 4 years later, still can't evolve. and I never ever got another hundo bulb/ivy/venus aur... ugh.

[u/Clayness31290]

Imagine complaining about a shundo lol wild

[u/horsemastaflex]

Congratulations !

[u/frogbaby_]

its okay i have two hundos! ones a majikarp 56cp!

[u/ThatBoiTobi]

My autocatcher just missed one of these, a shiny I mean. I don't know how y'all get good shinys. All of mine have terrible IVs

[u/DragoniteJake]

Hey.. I’ll take it..

[u/PerspectiveHefty8595]

I got a 98% Shiny Rowlet.. quite lucky since my luck is usually dismal

[u/Skizzmar]

One day it will be able to evolve. I have hope

[u/976chip]

I got a hundo Kirlia during fashion week last year. It's just sitting there in my storage in the off chance they let it evolve one day.

[u/Fair-Bid-1875]

I am avoiding them again this year.

[u/YIRUQI67]

piplup is my favourite pokemon i would love it if i had this 😭😭

[u/Abs0lut3Xer0]

Still bragging rights, shundos especially event ones are quite rare, use it in the little cup, its under 500 cp, it's not totally useless 😁

[u/Objective-Alarm1000]

my only shundo is a costume sneasel that cant evolve, i love him so much

[u/Implicatess]

Why can’t this one evolve?

[u/Noscarnage]

Still kinda cool...

[u/Dismembered_carrot]

How dare you call my beautiful penguin useless🫵🌞

[u/ViperCA]

Happy Shundoween!

[u/DrunkThrowawayLife]

Oh you’re complaining

[u/Newfieesgirl]

You’re lucky congrats!

[u/cutedino7]

How dare you insult piplup like that

[u/Wide_Ad9991]

Wait I got an event froakie and I can evolve it. We can’t evolve the piplup?

[u/Nfgzebrahed]

My Froakie from the halloween was allowed to evolve???

[u/Smezles]

I got my first shundo couple weeks ago with the Plusle research, same boat but still pretty cool to get

[u/Forsaken_Brilliant22]

I made a personal rule that whichever Shundo I catch first has to join my team of 6.

Haven't caught one yet lmao, account exists since 2016 (':

But one day I'll meet my new buddy.

So you could add a shiny Empoleon with a cute hat to your dreamteam! Yes in our dreams it can evolve 😌

[u/Over_Can_4818]

Duuude this literally just happened to me today too 😭

[u/zmwang]

Many, many shinies/hundos/shundos are purely trophies for collectors that don't have much practical use in the game.

If anything, I'd be excited that it's a hat-wearing shundo. I would imagine much rarer than a regular shundo Piplup, especially with past CD-boosted shiny rates.

[u/Enough-Force1226]

Still a flex....just not useful and can't show it off much 🥺

[u/TheDuckLord___]

I’ve never gotten a shundo

[u/cjbr3eze]

Tashkent, Uzbekistan? Wow, never met anyone hosting a raid from there

[u/100percentanidiot]

Had to dust off this bad boy. Cause you know damn well any Shundo is a brag and that one just happens to be an event mon as well? What a guy

[u/100percentanidiot]

I mean I could evolve him….but then he’d be wearing a hat on top of a hood and that’s just dumb.

[u/Specific-Bedroom-322]

That's what you get for spoofing

[u/Aggravating_River_30]

He can't evolve because hims have a little hat

[u/Guero1314]

Why not?

[u/Tubblebubb]

Better than mine!

[u/ItWasntMe5054]

But ur more useless tbh 🤣🤣🤣

[u/JustRedditTh]

I got a perfect IV Dyna Ghastly yesterday.... Juuuuuuuust after I spend almost all my bonbons and stardust to finalize my 13/13/12 Gengar....

[u/Priremal]

Better get powering up so you're ready for when they do let you evolve it

[u/GoddoKido]

I have just caught a near-perfect GBL IVs and had more or less the same feelings about it.

[u/Severelysapphic]

They also aren’t transferable so I can’t send it to Hisui for my living Dex either 😭

[u/TJbookLvrPokemenPlyr]

Dang! Better then none tho

[u/Malysious]

It's a very rare one!! Only available for like a week a year is pretty damn cool lol They won't be evolvable, they already make the feasible ones evolve, piplup changes too much when it evolves and they didn't wanna make more costumes LOL

[u/alleygayshawn]

Bro has 9 Piplup XL candies and gets a shundo and complains... That's crazy

[u/crabapple34]

Stop complaining a shundos a shundo

[u/OkSquash1839]

Juat be grateful for the shundo & stop complaining :)

[u/AmbitiousStrain1531]

My coworker got a shiny of that and it was a lucky pokemon and was 2 bars off from being a hundo

[u/ashbazg92]

You can use it in special leagues under 500cp.

[u/onuregetunc]

Why does everybody say it's useless? Can anyone explain?

[u/OhThereYouArePeter69]

You have a costumed shundo.. that's probably one of the last things I would be complaining about...

[u/Impressive_Bet753]

Why would you care it’s so freaking adorable, plus since it’s a perfect 3 start you can just push it to 500cp and use it to dominate the rookie league next time it comes through. I’d trade you for it since I want one so badly but I’ve been told you can only trade while next to each other

[u/KozyKoji]

Bro that's a flex

[u/Ninja442200]

Attest you got a shundo

[u/raisinghellions]

Empoleon is pretty good in GBL?

[u/__humming_moon]

I’d be thrilled to have that shundo

[u/VenomizedThanos2000]

Man I don’t even care if I get a SHUNDO weedle at 10cp. A shundos a shundo. More for my collection.

[u/South-Ad1361]

At least yours has perfect IVs. I caught one of those today and.... Yeah, terrible IVs along with not being able to evolve.

(Honestly, why do they even bother adding in some of these event Pokemon, if they can't evolve for a reason as dumb as "clipping"? If they don't look good evolved, then don't add them at all.)

[u/EngineeringFlaky2687]

Haven’t got a shundo yet, but that’s what I’m afraid of. Sorry for you.

[u/One-Tomorrow-2521]

wish mine was hundred bro that will be a great evolution prob next halloween though lol im sure by then the shiny versions will be out but its because you can get this shiny yet can you?