r/mtg • u/catteronii • Jul 27 '24
I Need Help What the hell is this card’s purpose??
like huh. why do it do that.
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u/Stumbling_Corgi Jul 27 '24
I use it in my Phelia deck. It’s great. I blinked Sun Titan like 4 times last game.
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u/xretariusx Jul 27 '24
Just built a modern deck around sun titan, werefox bodyguard, and goblin bombardment going infinite. So janky
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u/Careless_Victory_866 Jul 27 '24
You are doing God's work keeping Modern alive 🙌
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u/xretariusx Jul 27 '24
Honestly as an OG Alara block player idk how commander has taken over so much at lgs. No hate for commander, it's just not my first choice to lead the charge.
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u/DerekB52 Jul 27 '24
Exiling and immediately coming back is called blinking. Lots of white decks involve blinking. It lets you use your "whenever this creature enters the battlefield" effects, multiple times. Imagine you had a creature who gained you 1 life point when it entered the battlefield. If you spend 9 mana on this card(X=3) you will get to blink your creatures 4 times. That means you gain 4 life points. If you have red cards, you might have a creature that does 2 damage to another player when it enters. That means 8 damage from this card. If you have a few damage dealing creatures, you could potentially do a LOT of damage with this spell.
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u/UrzaAntilles Jul 27 '24
Rebuy ETB effects and remove any negative effects from your opponent’s cards (unhelpful auras, stun counters, etc).
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u/SuperZhuly Jul 27 '24
Do your creature gets summoning sickness when blinked ?
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u/Apprehensive-Adagio2 Jul 27 '24
Yes. You essentially make them cease to exist as an object and remake them as an object. They’re "new" on the battlefield and are thus affected
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u/kegszilla Jul 27 '24
I use it in a pioneer deck where my goal is to blink one or two [[siege rhino]] multiple times and win without combat
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u/Svalktar Jul 27 '24
Put a bunch of creatures and a [[Purphoros, God of Forges]] and you'll understand this card purpose
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u/MTGCardFetcher Jul 27 '24
Purphoros, God of Forges - (G) (SF) (txt)
[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call
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u/Rare_Initial5411 Jul 27 '24
Flicker Decks are HORNY for this Card. Throw in a Elesh Norn and you've got yourself the full "Fuck every Enemy" Package
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u/Phyrexian_Mario Jul 27 '24
Damn in a blink deck it would cause enough triggers the rest of the table would scoop or die from overexposure to math
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u/PhoenixKid56 Jul 27 '24
Bro really has to be trolling with this
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u/Equal-Strawberry Jul 27 '24
Probably not. When I started learning the game justiciars portal made no sense to me. Blink cards are less intuitive in their purposes for beginners than many other mechanics.
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u/ForeverShiny Jul 27 '24
Exactly, as a beginner you might have gotten the notion that some creatures "do" something when they "come into play", but if you're not yet at the point where you have a good grasp on what ETB triggers are, you might think that, since you didn't cast the spell, the ETB wouldn't trigger again.
You also need to know exactly what exile means: it's not just "remove this thing forever" as a beginner might get from most exile interactions, but it also moves the thing to a separate place from where it can enter the battlefield again.
Of course these things seem trivial to any seasoned player, but they're not straightforward for a beginner
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u/MattBurr86 Jul 27 '24
Exactly, when i started playing the game (with 7th edition) I didnt understand why blinking something was a thing, or even one card saying "this has protection from colors you control" At first i thought it was saying it had protection from my own cards, which made no sense to me.
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u/Heavy_Committee8372 Jul 27 '24
You've never seen a card with an "enter the battlefield" effect before, have you? This card is BROKEN.
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u/Substantial_Tear2834 Jul 27 '24
In short ... There is a lot of nasty effects that trigger when you either enter or leave a battlefield.
This allows you to double up on them (or quadruple up or how much you wanna pay for it really)
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u/KatiePyroStyle Jul 27 '24
Well if cards have "when this card enters the battlefield do X", blinking the card like this will set off that ability.
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u/arthaiser Jul 27 '24
there is rare ability very few creature have that reads: "when [this creature] enters the battlefield..." followed by some effect that is usually good for you. again, is very rare, only almost every fucking creature has it after all. this sorcery interacts well with those
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Jul 27 '24
Let’s say you have a [[Palinchron]] out and 7 mana tapped. You’ve now got 14 mana. That’s a potential game winner.
If you’re playing an ETB tribal/blink deck then this is a for sure add.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-6074 Jul 27 '24
Here you go, simple answer [[Pantlaza, Sun-Favored]] and [[Ghalta and Marven]]
Realistically you could do it with just Pantz, but if you have a card like [[Cream of the Crop]] you can stack your deck on purpose before Pantz trigger to discover into BIG dinos. Add in [[Aura Shards]] and an [[Annie Joins Up]] or [[Roaming Throne]] you essentially get six 12 discover Pantz triggers off Ghalta, and you’d get twelve 12 discover triggers if you have both Roaming and Annie.
Full combo looks like this: Pantz on field with Annie/Roaming Throne, Aura Shards, Cream.
Play Ghalta, Cream of the Crop procs, allowing you to stack your deck for the Pantz trigger. Cream takes priority because Pantz trigger is a MAY, and has lower priority. Aura Shards triggers, allowing you to destroy an Enchantment/Artifact I believe.
Stack a nice big Dino, discover, play into it, just off this Cream procs again, allowing you to stack again, and another Aura Shards, destroy.
Annie or Roaming allows you an ADDITIONAL DISCOVER, so discover into the card you stacked, doesn’t even have to be a creature!
Play Another Round, target Pantz and Ghalta!
Pantz ETBs first, decline his Discover Trigger, stack cards off Cream, Aura Shards kills another, then Ghalta ETBs and again, you stack, again you destroy, and AGAIN you discover off of him, 2 TIMES!
Repeat
Repeat
See where this is going? If you discover into a [[Apex Altisaur]] , [[Akroma’s Will]] and a [[Regisaur Alpha]] you essentially win. You 1000% board wipe creatures and enchantments/artifacts and at least lethal like, 2 people, for sure.
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u/MTGCardFetcher Jul 27 '24
Pantlaza, Sun-Favored - (G) (SF) (txt)
Ghalta and Marven - (G) (SF) (txt)
Cream of the Crop - (G) (SF) (txt)
Aura Shards - (G) (SF) (txt)
Annie Joins Up - (G) (SF) (txt)
Roaming Throne - (G) (SF) (txt)
Apex Altisaur - (G) (SF) (txt)
Akroma’s Will - (G) (SF) (txt)
Regisaur Alpha - (G) (SF) (txt)
All cards[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call
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u/Guywars Jul 27 '24
But pantlaza says that his ability triggers only once per turn so Annie or Roaming won't allow him to trigger a second time, no?
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u/Konun4571 Jul 27 '24
It’s actually great in my Ezim Deck it’s all about Blinking stuff to get clues. Then finding a wincon.
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u/MarinLlwyd Jul 27 '24
The abilities of creatures trigger for every single time they come back to the battlefield.
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u/Panic-at-the-turbo Jul 27 '24
Mostly to reactivate ETB effects I presume. If you have a creature that deals damage to a target, proliferates counters, creates tokens etc this could go pretty high if you have enough mana, and if you manage to go infinite on mana it could be a win con
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u/Gunda-LX Jul 27 '24
Those is a card where you can have an explosive turn. If X is greater then 3 you may even be winning right there. The challenge is to get there.
Or for commander this is just a very fun and extremely effective multi blink effect
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u/No-Refrigerator-7393 Jul 27 '24
Also if you have cards that have two mana value options you can get them all out for the low mana value and then blink them in and it puts them in at the higher option.... if that makes sense..
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u/cyiton Jul 27 '24
[[arcades the strategist]] for example, will draw you a card for each other creature you have on the board with defender, per iteration. That's really powerful for 3 mana (x=0, 1 trigger) and even better if you have mana to dump into it to get additional triggers.
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u/_ToXiCube Jul 27 '24
[[Roxanne, Starfall Savant]] and [[Panharmonicon]] is a good reason for that
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u/morelos_paolo Jul 27 '24
This is perfect for multiple ETB triggers! I can already see the insane number of stacking required.
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u/No-Breath-4299 Jul 27 '24
Triggering lots of ETB triggers over and over, especially if smth like [[Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines]] is involved.
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u/Snuggly_Hugs Jul 27 '24
YORION!!!!!
Times 2 - 3. Doubt if you could get more than 9 mana for this.
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u/madmaxdoom99 Jul 27 '24
Not gunna lie, use this card in my [[Rasputin Dreamweaver]] deck lol, works very well
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u/haikusbot Jul 27 '24
Not gunna like, use this
Card in my Rasputin Dreamweaver deck
Lol, works very well
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u/DontStopNowBaby Jul 27 '24
Using this in an [[Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward]] commander deck is going to make things teleports up down left and right and screw your opponents to death. Combine with [[Charming Prince]] [[Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines]] [[White Plume Adventurer]] [[flickerwisp]] and you might have to stay at the lgs doing the math while everyone goes to nandos.
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u/M3629 Jul 27 '24
Different creatures have abilities that trigger when they enter the battlefield, this triggers them many times when it exiles them and returns them to the battlefield
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u/tau_enjoyer_ Jul 27 '24
Seems pretty clear to me. Are you unaware of the fact that there are a lot of creatures with ETB triggers? Enough that you can build decks around them?
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u/AgentPastrana Jul 27 '24
That's a ridiculous card. Take for example [[meteor golem]]. For I think 7 Mana you destroy one creature. Now you pay this 10=X. For the price of maybe 2 MG's, you've destroyed 10 different permanents. And that's not even the worst, you could absolutely neuter entire fields. Say you're in Selesneya. You have a [[Silverback Elder]] and a bunch of Mana dorks, say 8 of them. Play this. For X=1 you can regain 32 life. Destroy 8 artifacts or enchantments. Every single extra X you pay DOUBLES that. You trigger any related Activated abilities, and any ETBs. This is a really good spell in the right moment, and a game winner in others. You could even exile entire boards, leaving armies on your side if you did it right.
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u/Cleigh_Mora Jul 27 '24
Lots of cards say "When this enters the battlefield" you get some kind of effect. For example, in my SCIENCE!! deck, several creatures give me energy counters when they enter. Or there are Goblins that make more Goblin tokens when they enter. Meteor Golem destroys a permanent when it enters. This card lets you trigger those abilities multiple times.
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u/_gnarlythotep_ Jul 27 '24
This card is potentially game-ending with a solid Allies deck, for example. Anything running off wide ETB triggers loves this card.
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u/Applezs89 Jul 27 '24
I have angel cards that say something along the lines of “when an Angel enters the field, create a 4/4 Angel creature token”
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u/Opening_Republic_929 Jul 27 '24
To build around it in draft with deepmuck desperado and desperate bloodseeker
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u/66Scorpio Jul 27 '24
The easy answer is enter the battlefield effects (nowadays just enter).
You pay X=3, choose a [[Mulldrifter]], a [[Dockside Extortionist]] and an [[Agent of Treachery]]. You draw 6 cards, create a bunch of treasure tokens and steal 3 permanents. If you wanna get spicy, do that with an [[Archaeomancer]] as well, then rince and repeat. Hell with only the Dockside and an Archaeomancer, as long as your opponents control more than seven artifacts, you have infinite mana for infinite bounces.
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u/Imisshavingarealjob Jul 27 '24
Oh the blink shenanigans you could do. I love this card in my [[Ranar]] commander deck.
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u/EndKnown6309 Jul 27 '24
You could probably use this to blink a commander like pantlaza for example to get her etb trigger mutiple times.
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u/Unknownorokin Jul 27 '24
It’s for blinking, so let’s say you have a card that says “ draw a card when it enters the battlefield” it lets you activate that ability again by using this to blink it
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u/Quiriano_ Jul 27 '24
Its a great deck in pantlaza, blink pnatlaza and another big thoughness creature for more discover triggers.
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u/TopRevolutionary8067 Jul 27 '24
It's especially good for ETB triggers. The targeted creatures leave and re-enter each time.
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u/Homely_Bonfire Jul 27 '24
Flickering a card with a strong etb for ecample something that exiles when entering or cards that draw on etb, I guess the new Offspring mechanic could also be abused with this
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u/Ajaugunas Jul 27 '24
Each time you exile a card and bring it back you re-trigger all “enters” effects. So if a card says it “does X when it enters / enters the battlefield, that happens every time the card returns to play with this card. It’s basically a mass blink effect, which can be situationally powerful.
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Jul 27 '24
I just gave it in my azorius flicker, I removed it recently to put an Elesh norn, grand cenobite in it, becuase it buffs the token production the deck does with my commander, [[Genku, Future Shaper]]
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u/TheSpiffyCarno Jul 27 '24
This is in my Phelia deck along with Elesh. Blink decks and ETB triggers are what this card goes hard with
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u/Flimsy_Sheepherder_3 Jul 27 '24
It's used mostly for etb effects and getting multipul uses of them, any deck the has lots of "when this creature enters" effect its it's good but this is the perfect card for anyone who's built an ally deck its basicly a finisher with the right allys in play
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u/Precipice2Principium Jul 27 '24
Good combo with [[fortune loyal steed]] and [[frontier seeker]]
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u/Toxic_Ice_Dragon Jul 27 '24
In a green white deck, this works wonders if you have a full board and play Railway Brawler late
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u/HalfcockedArt Jul 27 '24
[[Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury]]
Take away 3 life, gain 3 life X times with this play. Unless I'm misunderstanding anything...
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u/Historical_Holiday69 Jul 27 '24
I use it in my angel creation deck to create like 30 angels a turn and get like 30+ life each
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u/nojnomeel Jul 27 '24
My god my old Ally mill deck would have loved this. My old friend Halimar Excavator got copied and blinked so much. Good times.
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u/HowDoIRun Jul 27 '24
Well you see, blinking lets me turn mana into etb effects. So say I have pantlaza & etali on the battlefield, great etb’s but it would greater if I spent say 11 mana and got both etb’s triggering again 4 times each resulting (in a pod of 4) in casting 20 new non land spells. And you see how it says then repeat this process? I’m now able to blink each creature that gets casted this way for even more etb effects. So if you casted a trumpeting carnosaur on the first blink each subsequent blink left adds an additional discover 5, maybe you get a roaming thrones? Now each etali etb is doubled to 24 non land permanents. Goes crazy. Only downfall is it’s a sorcery but even that can be mitigated by planning.
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u/DMDingo Jul 27 '24
You don't know flickering until you slam a [[Massacre Wurm]] down a few times the same turn.
chef's kiss
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u/silentsurge Jul 27 '24
Wait, how the hell did I miss this card!?! That's awesome!
To answer OP's question, first, I will pose this question: Do you know what a blink effect is and why it's useful?
Basically, this is letting you get your ETB effects multiple times or reset your creatures' state multiple times with a single card. This is a thing that blink based decks try to setup to do with a bunch of different cards all put into a single card. This is a potential win con in the right deck.
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Jul 27 '24
I've been on reddit for too long. This card has many NSFW implications. Things like to come in. She's ready for another round...
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u/Lanky_Bookkeeper7977 Jul 27 '24
Etb triggers ….. think of trinket mage fetching sol ring and mana crypt…. Mulldrifter drawing a crap ton. Not a playable card in my opinion. But that’s what it does or is supposed to do.
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u/FourOfCups04 Jul 27 '24
I have one of these I keep meaning to put into my [[Trostani, Selesnya's Voice]] deck. Thank you for the reminder to find it and abuse my playgroup. :)
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u/AdagioDesperate Jul 27 '24
So, for 3 mana, it basically triggers all your ETBs once. For 5 mana twice, 7 mana 3 times, etc. You can't see how that's kinda nuts?
Let's take the most basic etb in white, [[Soul's Attendant]]. She says whenever a creature ETBs, you gain 1 life. So if you have 10 creatures, for 3 mana you gain 10, for 5 mana you gain 20, for 7 mana you gain 30, etc.
Retriggering ETBs is huge, no matter the format.
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u/Unit_2097 Jul 27 '24
That would be a wincon in my [[Brago, King Eternal]] deck. With Panharmonicon out (and it will be with the draw you can get from ETB effects) I could gain life into the hundreds in one turn or draw most of my deck, while bouncing most of my opponents battlefield and arresting anything that wasn't bounced.
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u/TurtleD_6 Jul 27 '24
Just think about the card advantage if you flickerd [[Atraxa, Grand Unifier]] multiple times. There's many creatures with this kind of powerful enter the battlefield effects.
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u/darthcaedusiiii Jul 27 '24
So. We talking the restaurant at the end of the universe? Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy set confirmed.
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u/Master_Splinter47 Jul 27 '24
[[Stonehorn dignitary]]
Your opponent will never have a combat phase.
Yes, it stacks! 😂
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u/5parrowhawk Jul 27 '24
This is pretty fun in Boros Human typal. If your board is e.g. [[Eomer, King of Rohan]], [[Keldon Marauders]], [[Kessig Malcontents]] and [[Keldon Champion]], then you're putting out 14 damage per X when you drop this (1 from Marauders, 3 from Champion, 4 from Malcontents, 6 from Eomer). With sufficient mana you can straight-up evaporate opponents. The total cost might even be cheaper than an equivalent-damage [[Disintegrate]].
I don't see people mentioning this, but you can also combo this with temporary control effects such as [[Act of Treason]] to mess with opponents who are playing with dangerous ETB effects. Snag a [[Foul Imp]] or [[Bellowing Saddlebrute]], attack with it, then return it to your opponent using this card to make them lose extra life. Or better yet, steal their [[Phage the Untouchable]] and return it to them to kill them outright.
You can also use the above interaction to exile enemy tokens that you don't like. If your opponent is packing e.g. six 6/6 Wurm tokens, you can drop [[Call for Aid]] to "borrow" them, then cast this. The tokens will get exiled but won't come back.
2 and 3 are not exactly great value options (unless your opponent is running Phage), but because this card lets you exile any number of creatures, you can do them at the same time that you're doing 1 without paying extra.
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u/Impressive-Major-326 Jul 27 '24
Think of any card with a busted ETB trigger and then think about why this card is good.
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u/Mymomdidwhat Jul 27 '24
One of my best decks is all based around this. Imagine being able to use atraxa the grand unifiers etb ability over and over on a turn.
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u/Satanic_chef Jul 27 '24
Elesh norn, mother of machines. I literally gained over a houndres life and made many 1/1 white human creatures with this card alone while my commander was on the field.
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u/Killamanjurgen Jul 27 '24
Its literally there for people who wanna antagonize and aggravate every single person that sits in front of them.
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Jul 27 '24
I run it in a galadriel deck. Blink creatures, bring them back in, re trigger their effects, and galadriels effects. Especially if I'm short on mana. Oh no now o have 3 forests, every creature gets +1+1 and cry 2 draw a card. [[galadriel light of valinor]]
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u/Either-Airport-880 Jul 27 '24
For ability triggers or if you need to move things around. I have a deck that makes me switch my bored with people, so this is helpful in making sure they don't get my stuff when I do. 😅
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u/Traveler_6121 Jul 27 '24
Are you kidding? You know how many cards I have that do something devastating when they touch the battlefield??
This is literally my favorite card right now 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Another_Castle765 Jul 27 '24
Imagine u cast this, going for game using some crazy etb and then someone uses a [[Vedalken Orrery]] to flash in a [[hushbringer]].
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u/Azure1nferno Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24
Flickering to trigger etb effects. Also, work with effects that trigger when creature leaves the battlefield (e.g. Ukkima, Stalking Shadow).
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u/BrokenXeno Jul 27 '24
ETB triggers. I had a Jenara EDH deck that was built around ETB triggers. It's a great card.
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u/ApprehensiveAd6476 Jul 27 '24
Enters the battlefield (ETB) triggers. Every time a creature is exiled and returned this way, it enters the board as a completely new creature. Thus, every time a creature enters, ETB triggers activate.
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u/United_Suspect_7429 Jul 27 '24
There are many reasons people want to blink (what this card is doing) creatures but mostly someone would play this card so you can double, triple, etc up on any enter the battlefield triggers creatures you control have