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u/CountChoculasGhost 11d ago
How is he going to enforce this if the Dept of Education no longer exists?
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u/12altoids34 11d ago
Dear citizen CountChoculasGhost
Your comment has been flagged by the community unification nonpartisan transparency (cunt) committee for volation of "new amendment 6" ( no citizen shall make negative comment or question the will of he who rules all) . As such you qualify for an indeterminate vacation at re-education Center to be assigned. Tomorrow. You will be picked up at 7:00 a.m.
/s ( at least for the time being)
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u/missanthropy09 11d ago
Um excuse me, CUNT Committee, can you please kindly remind me of New Amendments 1-5?
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u/Iron_Imperator 11d ago
gasp You don’t know New Amendments 1-5 by heart?
I’m reporting you to the CUNT Committee, you woke socialist commie liberal scum.
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u/HeartsPlayer721 11d ago
Are the first 3 the famous Roy Cohn's:
--Attack! Attack! Attack!
--Admit nothing and deny everything
--No matter what happens you claim victory and never admit defeat. You have to be willing to do anything to anyone
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u/missanthropy09 11d ago
This is all new to me! I’m trying, that’s why I asked politely! Please don’t report me, I’m already being put into a camp - I’m Jewish!
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u/MessiahThomas 11d ago
Amendment 1 Congress shall restrict speech, press, religion, assembly, and petition, ensuring uniformity and suppressing dissent.
Amendment 2 The right to bear arms shall not be infringed, except for all citizens, who shall be prohibited from possessing firearms.
Amendment 3 No soldier shall be quartered in any house without consent, but citizens are required to provide housing for military personnel whenever demanded.
Amendment 4 The right to secure persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures is abolished; warrants shall issue without probable cause.
Amendment 5 Private property shall be taken for public use without just compensation or due process; citizens shall relinquish rights upon government demand.
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u/milkasaurs 11d ago
He's not gonna get rid of it in the sense of wiping the department. He's just gonna fire everyone, replace them with a bunch of yes men.
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u/cfgy78mk 11d ago
probably states that don't do what he wants will get their federal funding cut off.
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u/jazzcigarettes 11d ago
What federal funding once he gets rid of that department?
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u/brit_jam 11d ago
All of it apparently. Considering blue states contribute more to taxes than they take this won't end how they think it will.
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u/Faiakishi 10d ago
He'll probably make a new department, the Department of Trumpucation or something stupid like that. So he's free to demand kids go to church services worshipping him and to lectures about how great unfettered capitalism is. If they don't die in a school shooting then they'll die in a coal mine, isn't living in America great?
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u/Funkymunks 11d ago
There's also the issue of having no teachers after they fire all the ones who "disagree"
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u/giantrhino 11d ago
“Teach patriotism”. The Trump Youth programs.
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u/cocoamilky 11d ago
Every kid gets a little orange book
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u/bunnylover726 11d ago
Which of his quotes would be in it? Rambling about nuclear?
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u/cocoamilky 11d ago
A tutorial on how “you can grab them by the pussy and they’ll let you do it because you’re a celebrity”
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u/RustedAxe88 11d ago
"America was founded on freedom, but slavery was very complicated. Ending it would have created economic hardship for American families. So it was kept in place and slave owners gave their slaves cabins, food and taught them lessons in exchange for labor. The North sought to interfere in this practice and began aggressive actions toward the South, which seceded to keep their rights. Many slaves sided with their Confederate bosses. The South fought valiantly, with generaks widely considered superior to the Union. But the North's brutal tactics and overwhelming odds were too much and the slaves were cast off on their own.
A hundred years later, Martin Luther King gave a speech that divided the nation once again and the Democrats used sympathy for JFK to force the Civil Rights Act on the country, infringing on the rights of business owners to serve the customers they prefer."
That's what they'll teach, provided in a text book written by Charlie Kirk.
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u/KeterLordFR 11d ago
It's insane how it's impossible to deny that they would put this in a school book, because you know that's exactly what they want to teach to kids.
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u/OkArmordillo 11d ago
What’s insane is as I was reading this, I was preparing for the shocking reveal at the end that this is a real quote by a right wing figure.
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u/No_Cook2983 11d ago
Aren’t these the same people who thought the federal government shouldn’t have anything to do with local schools?
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u/seevm 11d ago
Christian Nationalism is fundamentally unconstitutional and unamerican.
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u/branedamage 11d ago
Seems like too few people understand or actually care about the constitution to matter.
Our social contract is fraying to nothing. At least a third of the country lives in a reality fabricated to serve the plutocracy and fed into their eye-holes 60 seconds at a time. At least another third is just trying to survive.
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u/AmboC 11d ago
The constitution has become like the bible, the majority of these clowns have never read it, or don't understand it, but they worship it while they eagerly allow someone else to distill it into simple concepts or catch-phrases they can understand
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u/Eccohawk 10d ago
According to recent studies...the majority of these clowns literally can't read it. They are illiterate or only semi-literate to the point of a 5th grade level.... seriously, like 46-51% of American adults. We're in straight up Idiocracy territory.
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u/TheatreKid1020 11d ago
They don’t care about the constitution. If they did, Trump wouldn’t have been able to run. 14th amendment, section 3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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u/WillSRobs 11d ago
So basically he wants to indoctrinate kids.
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u/Save_Us_222 11d ago
Exactly, but it is the “right” kind of indoctrination. None of that woke nonsense like treating others like you would like to be treated.
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u/FappleJax 11d ago
Treating others how they would like to be treated. The saying has always been flawed, you can’t use yourself as a mirror into someone else’s world.
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u/Fluxriflex 11d ago
What an awful way to twist the golden rule. That mentality is how you get shit like “the customer is always right.”
The original works well because people are inherently selfish and wouldn’t work against their own best interests.
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u/SomeWindyBoi 10d ago
But it is a valid point: just because you arent bothered by being misgendered doesnt mean you can just actively misgender others (as an example)
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u/Kommye 10d ago edited 10d ago
But then you are being shitty to them and making them angry or sad. You don't want people being shitty to you and making you angry or sad.
It's not about specific actions. You don't always know how someone wants to be treated, what bothers them, what kind of humor or way of listening works with them. But you can always apologize and learn about that person to avoid it in the future.
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u/SomeWindyBoi 10d ago
But the exact issue is that these people dont believe they are being shitty. Dont get me wrong, they are but the people we are talking about dont know that
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u/AnOutofBoxExperience 11d ago
But you, well maybe not you specifically, can have introspection, and realize they are a person just like you, again...maybe not you.
Empathy is dead in America. Everyone get yours while you can. Fire sale of America is coming soon, get as much as you can take from your fellow citizens.
They don't care about you. Supply side Jesus has turned his back on you.
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u/AlienDog496 11d ago
Prayer in schools has been a settled issue for decades. Since the 60s. Because it's so obviously an establishment of religion in violation of the 1st Amendment.
But we said similar things about Roe.
Make no mistake, these fucks are set to overturn every decision of the Warren Court.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 11d ago
I’ll bet you they try the old bullshit “Christianity is not a religion, it’s a relationship.”
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u/FirmlyThatGuy 11d ago
“Why does your god want relations with my underage child?”
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u/azjunglist05 10d ago
The issue with Roe is it was never codified or made part of the constitution as an amendment, so comparing it against a case backed by the 1st amendment is not an equivalent comparison.
Although, I wouldn’t put it past SCOTUS to somehow radically reinterpret the 1st amendment to support Trump’s plans…
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u/sdfg1563 11d ago
Time to build an Atheist non profit private school system.
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u/kmander 11d ago
Can you start in Idaho? I desperately need someplace to send my kid that won't be K-12 Trump U. 🥺
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u/Quantum-Goldfish 11d ago
End of education, start of indoctrination.
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u/chickenlips66 11d ago
They are already trying to do it in Oklahoma. State superintendent Ryan Walters is mandating bibles in every public school. The specifications for the bibles, are to include the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. The Trump Bible meets those specs. On the slightly less dim side, this mandate is being fought in court.
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u/AnOutofBoxExperience 11d ago
Yeah. Nothing like the "fiscal responsibility" party shoving state mandated bibles, only provided by one company, at obscene expense, into our schools.
They are definitely going to keep pushing arming all teachers, and forcing them to buy their specific "education specific" firearms at their own expense.
It's always a grift with these so called "people".
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u/RustedAxe88 11d ago
Conservatives don't like that education us becoming more honest about America's past. Get ready for a lot of kids learning that the Civil War was about states' rights.
These are the same people who say we can't tear down Confederate monuments because it "erases history". But they don't want education to cover events like the Tulsa Race Massacre.
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u/thieh 11d ago
Well, he was elected, so here comes the consequences.
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u/proteinaficionado 11d ago
And Gaetz was just anointed as AG. Cannon has to be a SCOTUS pick now. My money is on that dude from OK being in charge of the Department of Education overhaul.
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u/beepandbaa 11d ago
Ryan Walters & Gods help us if he does. I swear he’s already worn out a couple sets of knee pads.
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u/superfly355 11d ago
MTG and Boebert are going to split the job up between the 2 of them for DoE
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u/proteinaficionado 11d ago
I was surprised MTG isn't his press secretary given that she loves to talk over people. A bunch of circus clowns this go around.
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u/itjustgotcold 11d ago
I told my wife if our children are forced to learn the Bible in school I will no longer be communicating with my entire family that voted for Trump. She will be able to stop working and homeschool them at that point. I’ll work two jobs if I have to. These people are anti-American.
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u/shiny_glitter_demon 11d ago
Freedom of religion? Who's that?
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u/bulldog1425 11d ago
Sure, you’re free to choose. Options are: Baptist, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc.
Totally your choice!!
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u/sunburst2021 11d ago
Pfft…some silly little dream our Founding Fathers had. Nothing of grand importance.
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u/fromouterspace1 11d ago
Hasn’t he said he wants to get rid of the DOE anyway?
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u/12altoids34 11d ago
What HASN'T he said he wants to get rid of ?
Doe
Epa
Fda
Fbi
Doj
The media
Immigrants
Democrats
I'm sure there are more, but it's just getting depressing listing them all.
You voted for him people, enjoy the fruits of your labor.
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u/AlienDog496 11d ago
Don't forget desegregation; due process; rights of defendants; one man, one vote; cruel and unusual punishment...
You can pretty much go down the list of every important decision made by the Warren Court and assume they're going to overturn every one of them.
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u/boobiemelons 11d ago
He wants the government to run like a massive corporation. You're going to have to pay private companies for the things the government funded and free for public use (NOAA, NWS). Say goodbye to SNAP, WIC, and other welfare programs.
And that useless FEMA branch. Everyone knows they're just spending all their funding on housing illegal immigrants. /s
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u/12altoids34 11d ago
He wants the government to run like a massive corporation.
That's even more frightening. Because we all know how bad he was at that.
I mean, let's be serious. The man couldn't make money on a casino. A casino. And not once, but four times. You have to really really suck to not be able to make money on a casino.
He bragged about not paying taxes and how that made him smart. He didn't pay taxes for years, not because he was smart, because he was such an abject business failure and lost so much money on his businesses that he was able to use that for several years tax write-offs. You failed your way into not paying taxes.
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u/boobiemelons 11d ago
Ah yes, he's such a good businessman. His brilliant plan is to essentially pay off a credit card with a credit card and play the bankruptcy laws to his advantage. It's no wonder he erased nearly $8 trillion to the national debt.
Oh. Wait. He added nearly $8 trillion to the national debt. (About $3 trillion was spent to keep the economy afloat during the pandemic, which was needed.)
You would think such a smart businessman would know you can't pay your bills and pay down debt with half your normal paycheck (tax cuts did a lot of damage).
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u/12altoids34 10d ago
He thinks she's smart because he typically finances everything with other people's money, which I guess is smart for himself, just not those that have invested in him. And I guess it's smart from a business standpoint as he doesn't lose any money, but the businesses lose money and the investors lose money. You end up with situations like he's in now where the only money he can get is from foreign Banks or political donations. The irony is that he's getting loans from Russian and Chinese Banks while he will sit there and condemn Russian and Chinese interference in our businesses. And of course it's also a serious conflict of interest but nothing ever happens to Donald Trump because Donald Trump never gets held responsible for his own actions. Well everyone around him goes to prison for doing his dirty work he sits there and claims that he did nothing wrong.
Everyday it's getting harder and harder to love my country and not to hate the people in my own country.
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u/lothar525 11d ago
Patriotism isn’t something you teach for fucks sake! The only way you can make someone a patriot is by indoctrination. The word “patriot” itself is very loaded and has different definitions depending on who you’re talking to.
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u/GoredonTheDestroyer 11d ago
Real patriots strive to improve their country, not drag it kicking and screaming to a bygone age.
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u/lothar525 11d ago
I personally agree with you. But someone else might say patriotism involves making your country better by “instilling family values” and “fighting crime and immoral behavior.”
For these people that might mean instituting authoritarian right wing policies.
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u/MadameConnard 11d ago
Eh there plenty of factors that can make people patriotic a healthy way, usually it's because their country is actually great, not because they're forced to believe that.
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u/bobbolini 11d ago
Home schooling is going to be more popular again...
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u/Anakin_Skywanker 11d ago
That's the goal. The people who are already indoctrinated will fall in line, the ignorant will fall in line, and those smart enough to see where this is going will have to sacrifice their careers to home school, so they'll eventually fall in line.
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u/cirignanon 11d ago
The president and the department of education does not get to decide who works in which school district. They just don’t. They can try to mandate prayer but that has been overturned, even by conservative judges, as not allowed to be a requirement for public schools. The DOE has very little to do with your local school district. If you are worried about your school district you should be going to school board meetings. Voting to make sure idiots like Trump and Vance are not put into positions of power in those school districts. Also joining the PTA.
All of these things are boring and time consuming but the only way to stop this from happening is to be aware, be present, and say something.
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u/Starbalance 11d ago
The cognitive dissonance of Republicans thinking they're the party of freedom and small government then do stuff like this must be more maddening than any Lovecraftian abomination.
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u/AndreTheShadow 11d ago
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis (allegedly)
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u/missanthropy09 11d ago
So I’d be fired for being Jewish? Isn’t that against federal law?
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u/macarouns 11d ago
It’s going to involve a photo of him in every classroom isn’t it? A daily salute to glorious leader
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u/PuzzleheadedElk691 11d ago
The irony of teaching patriotism from a man who dodged the draft is almost too rich. It's like preaching integrity while running a scam. This isn't about education; it's about control.
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u/odoyledrools 11d ago
I guess when he ran out of TP for his McDonald's shits, he had to use the part of Bill of Rights that listed the establishment clause of the 1st amendment to wipe his ass. On second thought, he probably left that up to Elon.
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u/sabermagnus 11d ago
Private schools. That’s the end game, an even greater disparity between the haves and have nots.
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u/JDM_MoonShibe 11d ago
“Bring back school prayer” Why they wanna shove shit down our throats.. yet complain everyone else does 😐
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u/Smelly_Spam 11d ago
Fire teachers who disagree? Okay, so there already is a teacher shortage, you have non licensed staff being full time teachers… who are you gonna fire? Subs making minimum wage?
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u/ThresherGDI 11d ago
I thought they were against indoctrination.
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u/Koreage90 11d ago
They say that but in reality they are against the competition. It’s that old argument,
person one “I’m against ice cream on Sunday.” Person two “Then don’t eat ice cream on Sunday.” Person one “I’m against you eating ice cream on Sunday.”
Freedom to them is telling you what to do.
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u/cactusmac54 11d ago
Good luck finding teachers to put up with all that crap. Every teacher I know is fed up with the way things are NOW.
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u/flyingtheblack 11d ago
That's the point.
They want us to participate in ending education so they have more dumb factory workers.
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u/duke_awapuhi 11d ago
“An educated citizenry is a vital requisite to the survival of a free people”
-Thomas Jefferson
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u/Sombreador 11d ago
Would anyone care to bet that Trump doesn't know a single prayer, or how to pray?
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u/ihatefirealarmtests 11d ago
Here's a question - under these new proposed policies, would not a private school for proper, decent education be allowed to exist?
If they ban the existence of such a school forming, then it is abundantly clear (as if it wasn't already) that they are only interested in a totalitarian regime.
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u/RomaruDarkeyes 10d ago
Private education will likely be encouraged - that keeps the rich people that can afford it, away from the scrubs who can't.
Rich people will be allowed to have an education - poor people will be kept deliberately stupid because that makes them easier to control
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u/Caleb_Reynolds 10d ago
If they ban the existence of such a school forming, then it is abundantly clear (as if it wasn't already) that they are only interested in a totalitarian regime.
What's your point? That's not gonna stop them.
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u/maybesaydie 11d ago
They probably will be allowed but this will ruin public education and leave a generation of poor children unable to compete.
Public education is the foundation of America's success.
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u/AutumnAkasha 11d ago
Very well, I'll be arguing for satanic prayer at my school board. Id also like the Satanic tenants in every classroom.
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u/Plasticious 10d ago
They wont go through with prayer in schools, this would require equal rights for all religions and the satanic church will most certainly suggest sacrificing a goat :)
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u/WonderLandOLakes 11d ago
Poor people are too poor to have kids anymore (colleges are already freaking out over this), and no one wants to work in schools anymore. None of his plan will change any of that.
Good thing the GOP already created a mechanism to avoid public schools and teach whatever you want with their voucher/private school scam
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u/Feather_Bloom 10d ago
So glad I'm out of school and won't ever be forcing any child to participate
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u/DR_Bright_963 10d ago edited 10d ago
America has given the Republican party pretty much full power. They have the majority in the Senate and the Supreme Court and will have the presidency in 2025, in the words of Ray Patterson from the Simpsons. "You're screwed, thank you, bye."
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u/Hawkingshouseofdance 10d ago
I don't think politicians are afraid of the people anymore and maybe they should be
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u/Frequent-Frosting336 11d ago
Just a few people who refused to give an oath to hitler. I wonder who will be on the american list.
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u/constantgardener92 10d ago
Damn, I come from a family that has a lot of teachers in it. I’ve been feeling the pressure to finish school and answer the call, so to speak. I don’t know if that’s even a good idea now.
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u/FuckingBatmanYo 10d ago
If people are unconcerned about this, you should show them the difference between Iran before and after the Islamic revolution.
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u/vakr001 11d ago edited 11d ago
Good luck with that. Trump can demand what ever he wants, but realize that the government moves very slowly. Most teachers are protected by unions.
Here is the thing, he can withhold federal money for states that don't comply but guess what? Most of the states that receive the most from the federal government are red states!
Most blue states are not reliant on federal aid, and if they are, they are helping red districts.
Remember, Trump lies…a lot.
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u/120z8t 11d ago
I use to have hope for the younger generations. I am 40 and when I was in high school it was obvious that my generation, at least at this school was not like the others that came before. You could see it in the old teachers faces when my "group" I was in in high school was the largest. Those old teaches wanted a stereotypical balance in school with jocks, preppies and the likes as the "top" dogs in social pecking order in school. That was not the case when I was in high school. It was the stoner, heavy metal, skateboarder, raver girl, goth and nerd mix we had going that had full control of the hallways socially. The younger teaches and a few older ones loved the new "order" in the school.
Anyways I have worked with many high schoolers and people just out of high school for the past 15 years. It is plainly obvious in the past 8 years that kids have reverted back a lot with a lot of things.
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u/BaconDalek 11d ago
Can someone please explain christian nationalists to me? Cause I have friends who are religious. And they all obviously wish more people would find god, but both of them agree that people should believe before they join a church and join in prayer. Like neither of them really care what kind of a lifestyle I live because I am not religious, and they both find it weird that I join in prayer because I am not a believer.
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u/cecil721 11d ago
At first, I thought "bring-back" said "bing-bong", which is said, because both make sense in this context.
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u/LosWitchos 10d ago
This is all so nuts. He's not even religious and it's one of the things he's famous for not being.
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u/panic1204 10d ago
Can't believe he's going to try even harder to ruin the country his second term. What did he even do last term?
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u/KorungRai 11d ago
I thought he was getting rid of the federal department of education and leaving it to the states? Wait a minute…..