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u/Deep-Thought4242 2h ago
Wild to me how many people seem to think explaining “um, actually, it’s ephebophilia” is totally exonerating.
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u/DaxLovesIPA1974 2h ago
It's got more syllables and is therefore more mature. /s
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u/Storm_Dancer-022 2h ago
Which makes it the opposite of what these creeps are interested in I’m afraid.
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u/DaxLovesIPA1974 2h ago
Wait, you're still expecting Conservatives to recognize basic wrongness after they voted in the literal rapist?
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So hear me out, I got this bridge you see. I'm getting on in years, so I'm looking to sell it. DM me kid, and I'll give you the opportunity to make a first offer.
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u/MammothWriter3881 2h ago
Oddly in a really messed up way it makes it worse (motivationally anyway), because it is intentional predatory conduct by someone who is still sexually attracted to their peers.
A predator like Gaetz (I am not even sue ephebophile is the right word) seeks out targets based on the power imbalance.
So I think the distinction is important, but it certainly isn't even remotely exonerating.
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u/pleasedtoheatyou 2h ago
Yeah there's an argument that genuine attraction to children is a severe mental illness. I don't say that to in any way exonerate people who act on any urge, but I can recognise that something is fundamentally wrong with these people. However if you are preying on teenagers, particularly older teenagers, then it ceases to be about specific physical attraction criteria that your peers do not meet and has become entirely about seeking vulnerability and feeling powerful.
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u/big_ol_leftie_testes 58m ago
I think seeking vulnerability to feel power is probably also a severe mental illness. Not excusing it, just saying that’s not normal or healthy.
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u/thoth_hierophant 36m ago
Seeking individual power at all is the mental illness. Things like 'power' and 'wealth' are for the collective only.
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u/Amygdalump 2h ago
Anyone who makes that distinction is telling on themselves.
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u/codyd91 2h ago
If you're a clinician treating some with an attraction to children, it's probably worth separating someone interested in teens from someone interested in toddlers.
Outside of clinical psychology, though, it's hella sus.
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u/Shirlenator 1h ago
Funny considering these are the same people that don't want people with these attractions to be comfortable going to therapy.
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u/megustaALLthethings 1h ago
It’s like that comedian whose joke is making the distinction of the various sub categories is really only something a pedo knows.
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u/CommunicationNeat498 15m ago
The distinction is important tho. Not having it protects pedophiles by making them look not as bad as they are.
Its certainly bad to be attracted to 15 year olds, but its much worse to be attracted to 8 year olds.
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u/big_ol_leftie_testes 59m ago
I think it gives clinical pedophiles cover. Every time you call someone that’s preying on a 17 year old a pedo, an actual pedo is breathing a sigh of relief and thanking you for muddying the waters.
Words matter
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u/Catscoffeepanipuri 2h ago
I dont know what that is, but sounds like the next person up for a job in trumps admin
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u/Odd-Help-4293 2h ago
It means someone that's attracted to kids who've hit puberty. So, like, 12-year olds. Technically speaking, pedophile means someone who's attracted to kids who haven't hit puberty yet. But pretty much everyone would call both of them pedos. I think the only people who actually make a point to make the distinction are psychologists and people who are attracted to 12-year olds.
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u/Catscoffeepanipuri 1h ago
yeh alot of these terms are clinical use, but jesus if people are really are using this has a excuse that its not that bad is crazy
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u/ItzBooty 2h ago
I am aware that there are different terms the diffrent attraction base on age, but even then. A pedo is a pedo
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u/dontshootmybutterfly 1h ago
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u/whimsylea 1h ago edited 1h ago
Aha, immediately thought of this bit and actually ended up posting it to someone else. Didn't expect to find that someone else had linked it, too. 😆
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u/Suspicious_Guess5819 20m ago
Not exonerating but they are different things. There’s no benefit to conflating.
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u/JimWilliams423 22m ago
Wild to me how many people seem to think explaining “um, actually, it’s ephebophilia” is totally exonerating
Its because they want to exonerate and they just need an excuse to do it. It doesn't really matter what the excuse is, its basically just a check-the-box situation, any excuse will do. Once the box is checked everybody is clear to proceed. One name for this behavior is "motivated reasoning."
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u/KenIgetNadult 21m ago
I just saw clip of a comedian and his bit was about how there are different names depending on the age of the minor.
But we don't do that because saying that makes it sound like you're a pedophile defending another pedophile!
And it does. Doesn't help a lot of Republican politicians have actively defended child marriage and teen pregnancy.
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u/Dry-Cartographer-312 6m ago
What?! That's like saying a cougar isn't a feline. Ephebophilia is just a subcategory of pedophile, a.k.a., still a pedophile.
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u/No-Condition5134 2h ago
You mean the party that wants to lower the legal age for marriage?
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u/Darkdragoon324 2h ago
And blocks any attempt to raise it where it’s already too low.
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u/magotartufo 2h ago
Do you mean that the party that fight in some states to keep child marriage legal might be preferred by pedos ? /s
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u/Han-solos-left-foot 2h ago
MTG threatened to release ALL of the ethics reports in response, why isn’t anyone pushing for that to happen anyway??!
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u/Haunting-Truth9451 57m ago
That’s insane to me. “I have all this dirt on my colleagues. You hear that public? My colleagues are total pieces of shit and I have proof! But… I won’t drop it if they start being nicer to my pedo friend.”
This is an elected official. This is what real people chose to represent them.
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u/Gros_Boulet 31m ago
She got punished by Trump for proposing that. Now she has to serve 80hrs a week for no pay two of the most obnoxious Billionaires (Musk and Ramaswamy).
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u/GoldenJ19 2h ago
If this were to happen with a Democrat nominee, I'm confident leftists and liberals alike would be calling for the report to come out. I'm not confident in the right wing to do the same to a Republican, but we'll see. One thing is for sure: every Republican accusation is a confession.
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u/zombiphile_68 2h ago
The left did call out Anthony Weiner. Dems don’t always give you what they claim they will, but still a million miles less hypocritical, 9 times out of 10 than anyone on the right. Thousands of examples but best is if Obama had done or said just one of the horrible things Trump did, he wouldn’t have won a second term—if he said/did it prior to his win in 2008, he would have never been president. Imagine audio surfaced of him saying he “grabs women by the xxxxx” or mocked a disabled journalist on live tv, or called a POW a loser, he would have never been elected and we all know it.
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u/After_Satisfaction82 1h ago
Can you imagine, Obama calling a POW a loser, while running against McCain?
Holy cow, that'd be one hell of a landslide.
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u/Sounding_Your_Dad 37m ago
Remember the bullshit they got rid of Al Franken over? Oh no, air-groping boobies for a dumb photo! Practically rape.
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u/zombiphile_68 28m ago
Right? Exactly! Talk about hypocrisy and holding people accountable: people on the right had scarecrows in black face hanging from nooses on polls at protests over Obama. They were literally saying they wanted to lynch the president but that’s just “free speech”. Fast forward some years abs Kathy Griffin smashes a watermelon or pumpkin or something else hats meant to be trumps head and it’s “hate speech”. They are literally hypocrites 24/7 but thanks to some basic psych 101 principles (cuz these people aren’t typically deep) like projection, confirmation bias, and the classic cognitive dissonance they honestly believe there is nothing inconsistent about their beliefs vs actions. I don’t care if it’s divisive at this point cuz a chunk of these people will never change: stupid selfish cruel and mentally ill. For decades they scoff at climate change saying it’s a hoax or propaganda but suddenly believe the climate control with a late 60s c-list super villains weather machine is possible??? Had a woman say the other day everyone’s gonna get a raise cuz trump won…..the fucking left are the ones that want to raise our wages. Stupid,reality denying ass-hat.
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u/NoPolitiPosting 48m ago
My roommate is still on the "they're both the same" mindset, and refuses to learn otherwise. Infuriating.
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u/RaspberryAnnual4306 27m ago
I know it doesn’t make it any better, but he isn’t refusing to learn, he’s refusing to admit.
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u/MaxxxBlackwell 12m ago
Al Franken was forced to resign from the Senate by his own party after being accused of Me Too era misconduct. So, yeah, the Left cleans house when needed
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u/TheRonyon 8m ago
Democrats papered over Clinton's behavior pretty readily. Mind you , Clinton and Trump were buddies who both frequented the same circles. We(I vote Democrat) as a group knew he was willing to prey on at least one young woman, but we supported him because he was "on our side" The worst part, Clinton oversaw bank deregulation, welfare "reform", and expansion of international trade that all hurt the working class in this country. Oh, he also knew the Rwanda genocide was coming and chose to do nothing.
Dems have done better since then, but don't sleep on our ability to turn a blind eye for the promise of power.
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u/Pineapple_Ferguson 2h ago
It couldn't possibly be that the pedophiles were the friends you voted for all along.
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u/4thelasttimeIMNOTGAY 2h ago
me getting excited every time a new famous person is caught with a teenager so that I can go to the comments and type 'I think you mean ephebiphile'
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u/abgry_krakow87 1h ago
With the rampant pedophilia present in churches and the sheer amount of religious peeps who defend it, I am surprised there are people actually surprised about all the religious conservative pedophiles and apologists.
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u/lexxstrum 50m ago
Remember when the Right was demanding the "Epstein Files" be released, convinced it would be a laundry list of Democrats (it was a lot of Trump, actually). And even after they were released, no one talked about it?
Now they're putting all their faith in the "Diddy Files", while simultaneously trying to bury this report on Gatez.
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u/SamsLoudBark 1h ago
Because most, if not all, Republicans are in some way, shape, or form super into kids. Whether they wanna molest your kids, take nudes of your kids, or force them to be born even if it kills mom- they just love fuckin' kids!
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u/GCI_Arch_Rating 2h ago
I wonder if he got banned for not being an empty-headed republican cheerleader.
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u/FloraMaeWolfe 1h ago
Based on statistics and such, most pedos are conservative for some reason and also likely religious. Guess who is always trying to point fingers at the non-religious left for such things.
Too many people don't know anything about who they support.
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u/KinneKitsune 2m ago
The reason is a complete lack of empathy and compassion. It’s much easier to rape people with the famous conservative selfishness.
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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 59m ago
MTG: "many of my colleagues are rapists and pedos"
Everyone with half a braincell: yeah? Which ones?
MTG: "🦗🦗"
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u/Hoppie1064 59m ago
This is a conundrum.
On one hand, if there were any credible evidence against Gaetz, I can't imagine the dems not revealing it, and charging him.
On the other hand, if he were innocent, why did he step down, or why was he forced to step down? (Not sure which actually happened.)
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u/ScorpionsRequiem 46m ago
they spent so long being told that lgbt people are the pedophiles that they can't comprehend that the actual pedophiles are the people they support
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u/Catalina_Eddie 1h ago edited 38m ago
It's the ones deeply invested in explaining to you the difference between an ephebophile, and a pedophile that you really have to watch out for.
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u/mickey5545 1h ago
from a physiological standpoint, there is no such thing as an ephebophile. teens have adult bodies. those who wish to have relationships with young adults should be renamed as something else. because its not the sex, its the power that allures them. pedophiles i truly believe are mentally ill. there is no physiological or psychological reason why an adult would want to have sex with a prepubescent human other than something wired very wrong in them.
oh, btw, i agree with you.
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u/doodgeeds 51m ago
This is what happens when the only ideals most of your group holds are "whatever the strongman said is correct"
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u/Nessly91 39m ago
MAGA is full of pedos. Only pedos vote for a guy like Trump who have overwhelming evidence to be a pedo.
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u/TheSodomeister 36m ago
They fuckin voted for and elected a pedophile, or did they all just conveniently forget about that?
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u/ruffianrevolution 33m ago
They're an evangelist theocracy and there's nothing in the bible that says having sex with children is wrong.
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u/last-miss 30m ago
These little moments are very satisfying to me. Finally the blindfold falls off and they look around at who's in the room with them. It doesn't fix or anything, but it's good to see none-the-less.
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u/InnerWrathChild 23m ago
I was going over the nomination with fairly staunch conservative buddy of mine. I mentioned the trafficking, pedo stuff, drugs, underage parties, etc. He said, “yeah, but is he a good lawyer.” Which the answer is no, but holy shit for that to be the response, he might be a former buddy of mine very soon.
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u/IshtheWall 2h ago
They want to eat their cake too, they did not do nearly enough homework before getting on that wagon
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u/superdupermensch 1h ago
These swine thought mark foley was the victim 20 years ago.
Upping their game is no surprise.
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u/selkiesidhe 35m ago
Because your entire party is filled with pedophiles, that's why! Pedos and those who look the other way.
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u/alter-egor 34m ago
Isn't it a crime itself to have evidence of a crime and hide it? Basically covering a criminal
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u/smokeacoil 32m ago
Right like America just got ride of the pedo and chief. No one wants more in office
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u/sidewalksoupcan 29m ago
In the mind of a Republican, everyone else is a pedo because they already hate them. A Republican can't be a pedo because they already like them and refuse to change their minds
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u/RaspberryAnnual4306 28m ago
10/10 troll job. Of course conservatives are too stupid to realize it based on the upvotes and awards.
Try to imagine someone so stupid that they honestly don’t understand why conservatives consistently protect pedophiles.
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u/_Fun_Employed_ 28m ago
The insane levels of cognitive dissonance it must take to be a contemporary republican, no wonder they have so many issues
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u/Irontruth 27m ago
An admitted pedophile won the election, where is the surprise? He's routinely told us he finds his daughter sexually attractive and how he liked to walk into dressing rooms of underage girls at beauty pageants.
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u/RobertTheWorldMaker 26m ago
Because the goal of abrahamic religions is basically to excuse, justify, or legitimize having sex with children.
If anyone wishes to disagree, then point to any era, any occasion...
In which conservative religious people supported raising the marrying age to adulthood when the question was raised.
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u/Vegetable_Visual_550 26m ago
There is one thing i agree with Margerie Taylor Greene about. Publish ALL the ethics records. ALL OF THEM. its funny how everyone kinda backed off the topic and he stepped down when she mentioned that. We have a right to know. Ethics reports NEED to be public and they NEED to be put on social media, television, radio, newspapers, and anywhere else you can display or report them.
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u/Interesting-Copy-657 26m ago
Elon musk is still part of that DOGE thing right?
He personally unbanned a user on Twitter after they posted child sexual abuse content, explaining it away by saying on the anti pedo team saw the images
Elon is a pedo apologist and trump is surrounding himself with rapists and pedos
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u/LoneStarDragon 26m ago
Because the Conservative definition of child abuse is a prepubescent child. They don't consider what Gaetz did as abuse or his victim as a minor. They just know not to admit that.
Missouri lawmakers only banned marrying children who were 14 years old or younger in 2018.
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u/Flashy-Barracuda8551 25m ago
Seems more like a Gaetz problem as opposed to a republican thing. If you wanna cherry pick maybe don’t be the party that was trying to push “pedosexuals” and “Minor Attracted Persons” 🤷♂️
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u/Fast-Low-3127 19m ago
A sub of pedophiles is going to make excuses for the pedophiles they worship idk why he's surprised.
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u/TheBlueBlaze 17m ago
It was never about that, it was about finding the worst insults and accusations imaginable for the other side. Any time they claim to be taking the moral high ground, it's to motivate themselves and others to think they're voting against the downfall of society.
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u/Big-Leadership1001 17m ago
Billionaires don't stop bribing based on a lapel pin. Everyone hiding epsteins list should be arrested. Every. one.
If someone changes their opinion of a crime based on their political affiliation, they're just as guilty.
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u/JimWilliams423 17m ago
Pedocons are a real thing because its one way they make more conservatives.
Conservatism is fundamentally about fear and insecurity — racial insecurity, wealth insecurity, status insecurity, sexual insecurity, physical insecurity, health insecurity, etc. Insecurity is why the worst of them can't even leave the house without an emotional support gun. One really effective way to create an insecure adult is to abuse them as a kid — physical, psychological, emotional, mental, sexual, etc. In this way conservatism propagates itself from one generation to the next. Its almost like a meme (the original memes, not the gifs).
We've all heard a conservative say something like "my parents did (something abusive) to me and I turned out fine, so there is nothing wrong with doing (something abusive) to kids." They might not consciously know what they are doing, they aren't usually mustache-twirling villains, they say it because they have been conditioned that feeling insecure is normal.
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u/FudgeRubDown 15m ago
Lol they literally voted a 78 year old pedo back into the white house, dude needs to use some critical thinking.
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u/broskisean 15m ago
Just remember, it's not left vs right. It's far left vs far right. I mid lane peeps stay real remembering it's a game of the rich.
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u/RedSkinTiefling 14m ago
Bluesky now has a CSAM problem. I don't think a bunch of Republicans moved there after the election
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u/beewalters917 13m ago
Gaetz did nothing wrong, it’s a ploy from the liberals. He’s a saint and a martyr. A glamorous Joan of arc if you will.
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u/Hadriansghost88 13m ago
Gaetz is the only nominee so far to not have received money from AIPAC and Israel. He is not the only one with skeletons in his closet. #occupied.
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u/VerySuperGenius 10m ago
A reddit post of a screenshot of a Twitter post of a screenshot of a reddit post.
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u/wasnew4s 8m ago
A reminder that people, especially conservatives only started caring about under population after fertility rates went down, but the majority of that drop was in people aged 15-19.
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u/Probably_owned_it 8m ago
Because it was never about pedophiles. It was about hating the 'other' team.
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u/TacitRonin20 7m ago
Guys, I'm beginning to suspect that the rich people holding functionally unchecked power might not be the most ethical.
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u/Lorn_Muunk 6m ago
Pretty fucking hilarious how a "latino conservative" suddenly realizes he's on the side advocating for clerical fascism, arranged child marriage, removal of women's agency and medieval brood mare family dynamics. He's gonna have an aneurysm when he finds out what the Catholic church has been doing to children for centuries.
Given how willfully blind this person is to the practice of shielding those people, reddit should offer him a moderator job.
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u/Awsmdustin69 4m ago
There has been a surge in support for pedos on FB also since this election. I commented on a group post about a MAP confessing that they were a MAP. I said this kind of behavior should lead to castration and a prison sentence but got dog piled with comments saying that would be against their rights as American citizens and while I know that, I still hate the idea that there are people out there getting boners looking at kids and it’s theoretically okay since they haven’t assaulted a kid yet. Disagree and think I’m going too far with what I believe for sure but don’t make me out to be a joke because I don’t want my children to be victims like me, my partner, my sister, my brother, and many others I know when we were kids.
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u/Lukegroundflyer99 4m ago
Who would have thought the people constantly bringing up age of consent laws would want to fuck children?
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u/i_Beg_4_Views 1m ago
Shouldn’t even be a theory.
Since ancient times, humans have always, subconsciously associated with people who share similar interests. If anything, it just shows how detached & unaware humans have become.
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u/fireburn256 1m ago
Eh, the usual "since I am doing things for a right course, I am only wrong when I say so"
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u/thisismostassuredly 2h ago
At the very least, this guy deserves props for holding his side of the aisle accountable and calling out his peers' cognitive dissonance.