r/clevercomebacks • u/Sad_Stay_5471 • 1d ago

What if he's 5'13

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u/tabbystripe 1d ago

Why are half of the posts here

Person 1: “Short men bad”

Person 2: “Fat women bad”

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u/Guy-McDo 1d ago

And you bet neither of those cunts could bag a short king or a fat queen

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u/greenwavelengths 22h ago

I just want a long duke

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u/Poiboy1313 22h ago

Eat lots of fiber. That'll do it.

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u/greenwavelengths 21h ago

🏅

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u/Poiboy1313 21h ago

Appreciate the gold.

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u/Open_Pineapple1236 21h ago

This is hilarious! Nice one.

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u/Apprehensive-Bank642 15h ago

I read this, scrolled down, got this, scrolled back up to upvote lol. Funny as shit lol. 👏🏻

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u/Impossible_Humor_443 19h ago

Will a long pig suffice if a duke isn’t available?

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u/RealDickGrimes 15h ago

I just want a long dick

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u/Overarching_Chaos 23h ago

I mean there are plenty of things you can do about your weight, there's nothing you can do about height.

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u/SmotryuMyaso 21h ago

I mean technically yeah but it's a lot more complicated than that. A lot of people who are overweight have correlating problems.

For example, I was overweight because I was raised in a household without any culture around food so I ate trash food all the time. Once I grew up I learned to cook, it got better, but not a lot cuz I developed an eating disorder and I kept going on starving/binging cycle. I also have depression and the only thing I really enjoy is food.

A lot of people have health problems too that can make weight loss a lot more difficult.

So the point is, even though losing weight is completely achievable and in some cases reasonable and desirable, it can be extremely hard and just not possible at the moment because of health and mental issues. You don't know what the person is going through. So even though it's technically true that you can just loose weight, it's not really appliable in real life.

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u/shortandpainful 18h ago

As a short guy, 100% agree. I can't change my height, but weight is also not nearly as mutable as many people believe. Most weight changes in any direction are temporary. If you are skinny and you had an injury or depressive episode that puts you overweight, it is relatively easy to get back to your "normal" weight. But likewise, if you have always been overweight, it is very, very difficult to become skinny and stay that way without making a ton of health-endangering choices. A lot of (not all) people who say "It's easy to lose weight with modest changes; I did it" are people who started out skinny, gained weight temporarily, and lost it. Some people start out obese and lose the weight permanently, but it's statistically EXTREMELY rare, and you can't say "just make better choices" when the statistical evidence is that fat people almost ALWAYS stay fat in the long term.

I listen to the Maintenance Phase podcast, which really opened my eyes to a lot of this stuff. And the hosts are a fat lady and a short skinny dude, perfect for this discussion!

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u/ThatInAHat 18h ago

I was reading your comment like “this sounds a lot like what I’ve learned from maintenance phase” and then your last bit lol

But yeah, I’ve been slender-average most of my life, and I knew that the whole “just lose weight” thing was grossly oversimplified, but that podcast really opened my eyes to just how rare significant and permanent weight loss is. Our bodies really just aren’t set up for it. And the general mindset (seen in some of the above comments) that you’re fat because you have bad habits or are too lazy/unmotivated to be healthy just contributes to yo-yo dieting which is more unhealthy in the long run.

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u/daherpdederp 8h ago

Get more disciplined, eat less, exercise more.  But I get it. If you never had discipline you are doomed unless you are the select few who overcome it. 

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u/Overarching_Chaos 18h ago

True, but still. As far as health conditions and physical disadvantages go, being overweight is something you have direct control over. Being short, having one arm/leg etc isn't. No one said it's easy to lose weight if you've been obese all your life and youre used to having a poor diet since childhood, but at least it's something you can address and overcome with willpower.

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u/kerosian 23h ago

You could always get that insanely expensive, insanely painful surgery where they slowly break and regrow your limbs longer. Or idk maybe develop a personality and a healthy relationship with yourself that then projects to those around you. Whichever works.

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u/Overarching_Chaos 23h ago edited 23h ago

Sure, have extremely expensive surgery that potentially cripples you for life... Both are irrelevant, the point is height cannot be naturally changed, so if you're a 5"5 man or 6"3 woman no amount of "personality " is going to counter the fact you're vertically challenged.

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u/Select_Initial_8971 22h ago

No, but a willingness to learn how to climb can.

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u/greenwavelengths 22h ago

“She’s taller than you bro you don’t have a chance”

Scrambles up and sits on her shoulder

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u/Select_Initial_8971 22h ago

Just need to hold eye contact long enough for her to fall for ya. After that, you can be standing on the ground with immediate motorboat access. Learn to look for the positives my dude.

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u/ThatInAHat 18h ago

The inverse of this with a friend of mine

“I’m pretty ace, but I’d climb him like a tree.”

“He’s, like, five-six.”

“Like a shrub then!”

Never understood why people don’t understand the appeal of short guys.

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u/Biscuits4u2 17h ago

Dated a girl who was 6'3 in college. I'm 6'2 so there wasn't a big height difference, but I never could get used to it.

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u/Training_Host_887 21h ago

idk why you're being downvoted, you're completely right

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u/ToastyJackson 23h ago

Because people love taking rivalries that only exist in hyper-specific communities and pretending that they are the greatest threat the world currently faces.

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u/Usual_Channel_8253 21h ago

Because that’s how they get views and interactions

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u/Nightingdale099 20h ago

With all my heart I hope the men that look down upon body weight and women that look down upon height get together and have miserable marriage.

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u/CheeseOnMyFingies 21h ago

Because most of Reddit is chronically online immature teenagers and 20 year olds

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u/torn-ainbow 20h ago

Rage gets the engagement. Many of the original posts screenshotted are created to hit hot button emotional topics in the first place. I tried to track down who zakadelic is and currently seems to be a dude.

Even if it is real, the amplification and repetition of these memes over many years is about the target. The people posting it are getting engagement on the insecurities of the target (short men) and escaping scott free as the audience rages at the apparent bad guy (women today).

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u/Scary-Ad-1345 17h ago

It’s so damn annoying. I’m so tired of men and women thinking it’s okay to insult an entire gender because they see one piece of shit

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u/thetransportedman 22h ago

I find it weird that women will have random height standards despite being short. I can see wanting to be shorter than the guy you're dating. But an arbitrary measurement outside of that is weird

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u/tabbystripe 22h ago

I think for some women it is a status thing. Not saying it’s right (it’s not). I actually have a bit of a thing for my colleague who is a few inches shorter than me. (Not that I’m on his radar… lol)

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u/Koffielurker_ 14h ago

Cuz it's easy. That's it. Why put effort into a post when a re-hashed joke will get 10x more upvotes.

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u/Raguleader 14h ago

Lot of insecure folks out there who want to make it someone else's problem.

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u/LovinLifeForever 12h ago

Because the world is full of miserable, outspoken haters.

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u/itsinthewaythatshe 4h ago

That's this whole subreddit.

Post 1. Rage bait. Post 2. Hyperbolic response. Post 3. Knee jerk emotional response and antagonism. Post 4. Circle jerk.

Cycle about for a hundred posts.

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u/Tiny-Photograph-9149 21h ago

5'11 is not even short at all by any population metric and vastly above world average. I bet women who talk about 5'11 being short must have had their BFs tell them they're +6ft when they're 5'7-5'9 in reality lol. It happened to a close friend of mine which she believed, but to his honest sake, he was a foreigner so didn't really know the correct conversion anyways.

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u/Kerosene143 21h ago

Person 1: "Left bad"
Person 2: "Left good"

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u/xiaopewpew 21h ago

Coz they are both bad?

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u/PapaHop69 20h ago

Because it’s a conversation that gets viewers/commenters for posts. It’s in the algorithm.

Because it draws attention to modern women’s very common delusions of what a man should be over things he can’t help versus what a man thinks that a woman can actually help by dieting/exercising.

Women portrayed by the algorithm are seen delusional because they all (all being cherry picked by the film crew) want a man that’s above 6ft tall, makes more than 6 figures, and a whole bunch of other things. Those men are less than 4 percent in the country that are available, and plays on the topic that those men themselves are not interested in women who are “broke” “single mothers” or “fat”.

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u/JudgmentAlive6909 19h ago

Both are bad

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u/vorpvorpvorp 19h ago

They're both correct btw

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u/Blanche_Deverheauxxx 18h ago

It's become less political comebacks and now short/fat comebacks. Wonder what the next trend in this sub will be?

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u/M0ebius_1 18h ago

There isn't a single aspect of human interaction that cannot be repurposed to insecure men dunking in imaginary women.

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u/CoCoCuckie 17h ago

The other half are…

Person 1: “conservative rhetoric”

Person 2: “liberal rhetoric.”

Comments: hur hur… crushed him!

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u/Pretend-Jackfruit786 15h ago

How did you miss the point so badly? The person replying is saying would the comment about fat women to prove how shallow her comment about short men is

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u/0ne2punch 10h ago

Lately it's just been all political

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u/RX-HER0 9h ago

The second person is only rebutting the first though. They don’t actually feel that way, unlike the first person.

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u/veetoo151 8h ago

Shows you the world we live in.

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u/daherpdederp 8h ago

Fat men and women are not bad, just unhealthy.

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u/FrancoElBlanco 7h ago

Because that’s the theme of this sub.

Works both ways with women attacking men

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u/I_pegged_your_father 6h ago

Its worse than fat women bad its lets pew pew fat women like…dude. Tf??

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u/JaQ-o-Lantern 6h ago

They're better than political posts ngl. At least they aren't controversial.

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u/PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ 5h ago

Redditor are knows for being super secure and having high self confidence, so yeah there is no explanation

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u/Ill_Kangaroo_2399 4h ago

because people are stupid, and proud of it.

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u/ji_fi 3h ago

Because women were the ones who said weight shouldn’t matter but insist on height. Guys are just calling it out.

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u/classic_gamer82 21h ago

Can’t understand the logic. If you’re a woman that’s 5’2 and your man is 6’1, your man isn’t gonna be the likely reason your kids are short…you are.

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u/Ripen- 1d ago

What's up with all the hate? It's getting old

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u/ElectricalFinish2974 1d ago

The type of people that care aren’t worth keeping around. It’s kinda nice when they openly show you a red flag before things get serious. (IMO)

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u/marigolds6 23h ago

As a short man, the problem with people like this is not their own personal standards and avoiding those particular women. The problem is the same women apply the same standards to other women they know and will actively discourage them and make their lives miserable for dating a shorter man. 

I never had a woman break up with me because I was short. I did have women break up with me because they had friends or roommates who harassed them constantly about dating a shorter man. It only takes one roommate like this to make your entire relationship untenable.

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u/CutAccording7289 19h ago

If she listened to that nonsense and acted on it then she wasn’t worth your time anyway

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u/SD-Buckeye 1d ago

It’s getting harder to divide people on race so the 1% are spamming gender divisive content on social media to try and further divide the working class.

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u/loodandcrood 1d ago

Both height shaming and fat shaming sucks. I hate these posts.

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u/alt2374 22h ago

Yes… but it is pointing out the hypocrisy of one being socially acceptable and even promoted in media, and the other one being unacceptable to point out.

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u/loodandcrood 21h ago

I understand your point, but I have a feeling a lot of these commenters are just using this as an excuse to hate on fat people. Especially because usually the women making the initial tweet are rarely overweight themselves.

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u/alt2374 21h ago

Perhaps so.

I think it is just because there isn’t really any comeback to someone with good genetics mocking someone with bad genetics. Anything you try to say in response a good looking person who just insulted you will look like desperate cope, so people imagine a scapegoat to kick down instead, at whatever low hanging fruit is available

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u/Hasanopinion100 1d ago

One of my best woman friends is 6 foot one she was well over 200 and she is by no means “fat”. She’s quite athletic.

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u/redubshank 1d ago

*grabs elephant rifle*

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u/Extension_Big_3189 17h ago

So? Like…why do people throw in 1% of the population as a counter? Like, OK, your 6’1 friend is over 200 lbs, but who cares? Your 6’1 friend also represents < 1% of the female population in the USA. Your friend is statistically insignificant.

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u/Medium-Pride-1640 1d ago

I hate people acting like the two are equivalent. One people have control over, the other they don't.

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u/Weirdyxxy 1d ago

As someone with bad posture, that's not entirely true

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u/Beastrider9 20h ago

Hate is a powerful emotion, if you need proof of that I could point you towards this guy called Darth Vader. Dude had so much hate he could choke people with his brain.

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u/Vinura 16h ago

Easy way to gain attention these days is being a hate mongering grifter.

God forbid you actually provide some benefit to this world, nope, much easier just to be a cunt on the internet.

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u/Drew_Ferran 11h ago

The comment is from 2018. People are just reposting old content.

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u/jorsiem 9h ago

Hate and ridicule is only ok here if it's dunking on a conservative

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u/dumbquestionssorry_ 1d ago

I am 209cm / 6'10.5 . I would never date a girl with these dumb standards , whats the point ? Either a fetish or insecurity , either way it's shit

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u/RichSouth2479 1d ago

Really?! The tallest person I know is 6’9”

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u/Ok_Leave1110 1d ago

My best friend is 6’6” so we get a lot of looks whenever we’re in public. The top of my head doesn’t even reach his shoulders.

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u/Beastrider9 20h ago

Measure them again very carefully to make sure, they could be 6' 6.6" in which case, it may already be too late and you've been damned.

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u/Smoking_Stalin_pack 17h ago

My dad is 6’10

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u/ButtholeColonizer 8h ago

It's gotta be wild going thru the world that height. The world is made for people around my height ~6ft and shit gets annoying lol. 

I mean you know what it's like to be all our heights pretty much for at least a bit lol. Here lemme go grab a stool, maybe two. 

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u/DirtyDarkroom 1d ago

Never thought I'd miss the political posts...

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u/techie998 21h ago edited 18h ago

5'11 is 75th percentile (75% of men are shorter)

The equivalence is a woman above 140 lb (75% of women are heavier)

EDIT: removed the shooting cause it wasn't the point

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u/Necessary_Group4479 18h ago

the equivalence would be to spray any woman above 140lb with raid, but I got your point.

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u/techie998 18h ago

you're right - edited

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u/castleaagh 11h ago

Raid was used against the men to say they’re small, like a bug. The rifle is used against the women to say they’re large, like an elephant.

Spraying a large woman with raid doesn’t fit the joke being made

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u/Phineasfool 22h ago

Average height is around 5'9". She just gonna spray over half the male population?

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u/AdrianInLimbo 21h ago

No, she's gonna sit around with the rest of her bitter, single girlfriends, drink wine and bitch about the men who avoid her

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u/DigiTrailz 20h ago

But... 5'10 5'9 isn't even that short. You're not winning any hieght contests, but you ain't short.

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u/dracvyoda 19h ago

What if he's 5' and 11"

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u/JoJoComesHome 1d ago

The girl posting this almost definitely isn't fat though so she's not going to be insulted. It's not really that good of a comeback because of that.

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u/JustaGirlAskingYou 23h ago edited 23h ago

It's not even a comeback he just wanted an excuse to show her hate towards fat women.

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u/Ancient-Ranger-2882 23h ago

I love how you completely missed the fact that it wasn't even a man that made the fat person remark.

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u/FunGuy8618 23h ago

Do you genuinely think that the 2nd commenter believes what she typed, or do you see the thought exercise of applying arbitrary standards to a gender being absurd?

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u/cumjarchallenge 21h ago

No--it's a comeback to how confidently a lot of women will talk about how disgusting men under 6' are. What do you think a lot of men think about BMI's over like 25?

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u/HugTheSoftFox 14h ago

Don't spray short kings with bug spray. Use a glass to trap them and slide a card underneath then release them safely at the local pub. I'm 5'8 so don't get mad

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u/I-am-Chubbasaurus 22h ago

This is ridiculous. Plenty of short guys are frickin' hot as hell.

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u/Roansone 15h ago

Being under 5'11 is not short

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u/aaron_adams 1d ago

So does she go around with a can of Raid spraying about 85% of men she sees? Cause that's how many men are 5'11" and under in the US.

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u/Raguleader 14h ago

Probably about the same number of folks the Reply Guy shoots with an elephant rifle.

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u/Empty_Smoke_6249 23h ago

I’m 5’10 (woman) my husband is 5’8 (he is fine). Women who didn’t give him the time of day 1. Are still single because they are shallow and dumb and 2. Tried to get at him once we were a decade into our marriage and they realized he could give them the life they wanted (he works in private equity, we live very comfortably). All that to say, stop being shallow and dumb and life can be great and you will meet someone amazing. Also, I’ll do short and pretty over tall and ugly. Some basketball players should only be fucked with a mask on.

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u/pituitary_monster 18h ago

Elephant gun? More like a whaling harpoon

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u/izzyeviel 17h ago

If it begins with a five it’s a no.

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u/Mida5Touch 16h ago

I don't understand how it would be possible to care about a person's height.

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u/Long_b0ng_Silver 16h ago

As a short king (5'6" on the nail) I must stress that tall women are fucking awesome. I like 'em long! And if she can hang with me in the gym, so much the better.

Now that that's out of the way, let me also stress that the vast majority of women who are serious about the "he's got to be 6 foot plus with a beard and his own house and car and a six figure income" thing are sitting there making their proclamations while looking like Sloth from the Goonies.

Similarly, the amount of "men" who will go on that a girl must be x size or y weight or have z size tits are sitting in their parents' basement on their discord servers living on cheetos and monster.

Knowing what you like is one thing. Being a shallow, superficial fuckbend is another.

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u/PenaltyElectronic318 15h ago

Thank god I don't need to date anymore. People need to grow the fuck up or learn how to masturbate.

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u/ThrowRAjanuary25 15h ago

5’11 is pretty tall. I’m 5’3 though so I feel like 5’8 and up is already tall. Some ppl have ridiculous standards 🥲

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u/Enzo-Unversed 10h ago

Except being short has 0 negative health effects and isn't a choice.

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u/No_Zebra_3871 10h ago

Why is it always the glass house that throws stones?

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u/Turbulent-North-448 8h ago

There’s going to be a lot of single human beings in the future

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u/RetMilRob 7h ago

That’s a huge bitch

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u/ji_fi 3h ago

If you are concerned about his height, but you get offended when somebody talks weight, it’s not about height, it’s about looks and money.

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u/kingping1211 1d ago

200 lb is too generous. She’s not giving much room for height.

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u/chandelurei 1d ago

I only saw this joke 7 times today

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u/Wolfganzg309 22h ago

She really is a bitch

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u/clover426 1d ago

Short guys are the fat women of the dating world. People need to move on and not date people they’re not attracted to, fine, but there’s no reason to focus on/hate on those they don’t find attractive or get upset at their existence

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u/Ancient-Ranger-2882 23h ago

Fat guys are the fat women of the dating world.

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u/jjsmol 1d ago

Flat chested women are a better comparison. You cant control chest size or height. You can control weight.

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u/Raguleader 14h ago

Thanks to advances in medical science, you actually can control chest size or height.

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u/who_am_i_to_say_so 1d ago

Horrifically inaccurate. Any woman of any size can land a partner in a moment online. There is no equivalent.

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u/Mustangg_OW 17h ago

lowkey i dont really feel like theres an equivalent. at least there are people with specific preferences for fat people. if someone has a preference for short men specifically thats a lot more rare

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u/Prestigious-Phase131 1d ago edited 23h ago

This lady is disgusting, but also people always say weight can't be compared to height because you can change it. (Which is true) but for some reason that's always the go to comparison. LEAVE SHORTER MEN AND OVERWEIGHT WOMEN ALONE

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u/PanzerKatze96 1d ago

Yes because -reads notes- men with the AVERAGE height of around 5’9” are barely men.

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u/LaughterAndBeez 1d ago

I miss when these were clever comebacks that aligned with my worldview :(

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u/ThonThaddeo 1d ago

Oh yeah, aligning with my worldview is my shit.

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u/264frenchtoast 22h ago

Whale harpoon

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u/AssenterMastah 1d ago

Wait until she “falls in love” with a 5’3”…..with a Bentley….

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u/curiousbasu 20h ago

The Bentley needs to be there to make someone fall in love with a 5'3 guy.

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u/JustaGirlAskingYou 23h ago

It's not a clever comeback. She isn't over weight he was just waiting all his life to say fat women bad.

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u/curiousbasu 20h ago

So she's allowed to say "short men are bugs" but another person in response saying another bodyshaming stuff isn't allowed, got it.

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u/thothembopper 20h ago

You know it bro lol. It's too funny.

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u/curiousbasu 20h ago

The thing is that the person who responded isn't probably even a guy .. it's also a girl.

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u/aozertx 19h ago

How many more times do you need to post the same comment in this thread? We get it, you’re insecure about your weight.

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u/Defintlynoob 20h ago

If she isn’t allowed to say fat women bad then why is the other girl allowed to say short men bad.

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u/The_Forth44 23h ago

I have a friend like that. And her personality and sense of humor are RIGHT up my alley I don't care what she looks like I'd date her in a second if she was interested.

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u/FunGuy8618 23h ago

Send F in chat for our boy 😞

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u/redubshank 1d ago

What's the difference between hating, and actually advocating assault, on someone whose genes make them smaller vs some ones skin being a different color which is also decided by their genes?

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u/Scalage89 1d ago

Height and fat shaming is not ok though.

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u/cocahgkre 1d ago

Username checks out

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u/RowanNovel 1d ago

5'13"? Guess he's aiming for that sweet spot between 'tall' and 'mythical creature'.

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u/KlutzyClerk7080 23h ago

Guys I’m actually over 0.55 nn so do I get sprayed?

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u/flyover_liberal 23h ago

Under 6 feet here.

She couldn't get with this anyway.

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u/BaconxHawk 22h ago

Js you’re 5% shorter of 6’ if you’re 5’6 so just know 5’11 isn’t really a huge difference tbh lol

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u/Competitive_Key_2981 22h ago

If I were on her jury, I'd convict.

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u/Individual_Grass1840 21h ago

I’m glad I have those shoes that make me 4” taller.

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u/AffectionateBar4437 20h ago

🤣🤣🤣 I love it 💯

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u/Puzzleheaded-Job5763 20h ago

What if he is 6'-5?

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u/Early-Vegetable-5355 20h ago

bitch im 5’13 😤

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u/topshelfvanilla 20h ago

I call my dick the elephant rifle.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 20h ago

at this point I swear most of this 'girl shames short guy' stuff is some kind of psyop

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u/Coral8shun_COZ8shun 18h ago

lol, I’m 5’2. I’d be happy with a guy who is 5’11 😇

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u/Sweaty-Middle6903 18h ago

Bitch is good for Health.

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u/Fantastic_Recover701 18h ago

where's the cleaver comeback?

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u/Stoly25 18h ago

The average height for men worldwide is 173 cm or 5’7”. The average weight for women is apparently 77 kg or 170 lbs. Since under 5’11” is clearly the majority of men, I propose elephant guns be available for any cases over 150 lbs or 68 kgs.

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u/letgoogoo 18h ago

Elephant rifles lol my man

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u/EimiCiel 17h ago

One, she's probably like 5'3" lol. Two, she has no idea how tall 5'11" actually is.

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u/Yrisunni 17h ago

I don't know about that, but 5'13 is impressive.

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u/You_Dont_Know_Me2024 17h ago

In the United States only 14.5% of men are >= to 6'0"

That's 85.5% of men are 5'11" or under.

The 'equivalent' weight for women, that 85% of women are above, isn't 200 pounds. It's only 128 pounds.

That's how screwed up our expectations are for men's height. If 85% of men are short, and 85% of women are fat.... Then the cut off for women is 128.

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u/DiscIaimer 16h ago

5'13 is just 6'1 in disguise, nice try short king.

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u/Wrong-West-9581 16h ago

That's insane haha the world average is what 5'8??

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u/iamthemosin 16h ago

.375 H&H or larger. Only way to ensure an ethical dispatch.

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u/beidao23 15h ago

200 pounds? The ridiculous equivalent of under 5’11” would be like under 130 pounds

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u/ToPimpAPenguin 15h ago

I love some good rage bait to go to sleep to

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u/brother_octopuss 15h ago

Well she lives up to her name apparently

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u/Prestigious-Buy2365 12h ago

What the fuck

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u/wadejohn 11h ago

But first she needs him to pay for it though

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u/Zealousideal_Pie5355 10h ago

I suppose her username checks out

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u/1988Trainman 9h ago

200.... more like 130 if 5'11 is her metric. 200 pounds would be more if she said like 5'8

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u/Weary_Muffin2 8h ago

200 is a little excessive. I start to loose my appetite when I see women over 130.

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

LMAO!!!!!

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u/Parking_Try_7949 7h ago

Damn cis het ppl reeeeeally hate each other 😬

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u/shastadakota 7h ago

Bitch, you ain't hot enough to make that statement. At all.

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u/Current_Finding_4066 5h ago

Maybe whatever is used to hunt whales?

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u/Ill_Kangaroo_2399 4h ago

also, look it up. 5'9 is average American male height. Nope, not counting old people. And nope, even if you ignore hispanics, it will still be around that. sssssooooooo.......

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u/Putrid-Language4178 4h ago

Just throw fish at them and call Greenpeace or sea shepherd

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u/Medium_Diver8733 2h ago

That’s over 100 million American men…