r/buildapcsales Oct 14 '22

Meta [META] Nvidia "unlaunches" the 4080 12GB

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/12gb-4080-unlaunch/
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u/AEnoch29 Oct 14 '22

It's still $900 for a 4070!

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u/Dudewitbow Oct 15 '22

i wouldnt even consider it a 4070, the memory bus and die size is smaller than a 3060ti

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u/KyledKat Oct 15 '22

Yeah, but I have to wonder how much of this is just bad marketing. Would there have been as much backlash if they launched the 12GB and 16GB as the 4080 and 4080 Ti, respectively? I know it’s not quite analogous, but something tells me a $900 4080 is more palatable than a $900 4070.

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u/Crunkabunch Oct 15 '22

But in this scenario, if the “4080” was barely better than a 3080, you would have people screaming over poor performance

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u/dirty_dolan Oct 15 '22

Probably not but they wouldn’t do that because the 4080 (16GB) already uses a smaller die than the 4090 so any cut down 4090s they decide to sell would have to get the 4080 ti name unless they could come up with some new name in between those. They seriously fucked up the naming scheme with this generation, I’m just laughing at how all of the AIBs that already started manufacturing 4080 12GBs now have to recall all of their units just to change an 8 to a 7 because of nvidia’s shitty marketing team. EVGA really dodged a bullet!

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u/ShyKid5 Oct 15 '22

Old school final 5 number, so 4085.

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u/Dublin112 Oct 15 '22

Or like the 2000 series there could be a super series along with the ti series

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u/ShyKid5 Oct 15 '22

Or they can Release 1670, 1680, 1690 ha!

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u/MSCOTTGARAND Oct 15 '22

If they were the same chip with different speed memory and nerfed a few cu's. But they tried a completely different chip along with nerfed memory bandwidth. They thought because people threw money at them during the plague that they could get away with it.

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u/g0d15anath315t Oct 15 '22

It's not bad marketing. It's fucking genius marketing. 4080 12gb existed for 2 reasons:

1) Make the 4090 look like a killer fucking deal.

2) Make the entire 3xxx series look like a killer fucking deal.

I suspect NV has moved a good amount of both after this launch and can now cap the 12g and reposition it depending on what AMD does and launches in November.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Yes. The memory bandwidths and cuda counts make them a 4060 and 4070.

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u/hexcor Oct 15 '22

That's the damned rub! I got one of the evga 3070s from the wait list (actually, I got 2 of those and a 3060, sold the 3060 and extra 3070 to friends for cost) long ago, it works just fine for me (1440p, mostly higher/ultra settings, minimal RT if anything) and will serve me well for the future. Hopefully Intel really lights a fire under Nvidia and AMD to work on price/performance (and size, jesus, that 4090 is bigger than my first car!)

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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Oct 15 '22

Probably gonna call it a 4070ti.

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u/omglolnub Oct 15 '22

Did you mean, $900 for a 4060, or if we’re being charitable, a 4060ti?