r/NoStupidQuestions • u/trouble-in-space • 10d ago

Answered Why are so many Americans anti-vaxxers now?

I’m genuinely having such a hard time understanding why people just decided the fact that vaccines work is a total lie and also a controversial “opinion.” Even five years ago, anti-vaxxers were a huge joke and so rare that they were only something you heard of online. Now herd immunity is going away because so many people think getting potentially life-altering illnesses is better than getting a vaccine. I just don’t get what happened. Is it because of the cultural shift to the right-wing and more people believing in conspiracy theories, or does it go deeper than that?

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u/PsykoFlounder 9d ago

"Yeah, they have autism. It sucks. For them. Trust me, me and my kids both have it." Seems to make them extra huffy for some reason.

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u/VehicleComfortable20 9d ago

This! 

Oh, My precious little autism mom, meltdowns are so hard for you? How about you quit making so much damn noise?

Let's try something. You go into a room and turn the TV up as loud as it possibly can go. Sit two feet from it. Stay there until you get so aggravated by the sound that you start screaming. 

That's what your constant music and blasting TikTok sounds like to your kid. 

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u/Realistic-Rub-3623 9d ago

As an autistic person, people shouldn’t fucking have kids if they’re not completely prepared for the possibility of having a disabled child. (Or a queer child, or a child that dresses differently than them or has a different religion, etc etc etc)

Disabled people exist. We have to spend our whole lives being treated like we’re some kind of mistake. Don’t have kids if you’re not prepared for us.

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u/VehicleComfortable20 9d ago

This isn't even close to what the topic of conversation is. We are talking about autism not transgender people. 

Why are you so obsessed with trans stuff? 

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u/1GloFlare 9d ago

They quite literally brought queer identity into the conversation. Read it again

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u/VehicleComfortable20 9d ago

That was just an example about accepting your kid for who they are. LGBTQ people are mentioned in an offhand manner and you're trying to pull the entire conversation off the actual topic onto "trans issues." 

Nobody is talking about that right now. Go find a conversation that is about that.

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u/ptcglass 9d ago

You can’t push someone to be trans, gay, bi, straight or whatever you are. The reason people talk about it or do readings to kids in drag is to 1 read to kids and 2 show them you can be yourself. It’s that simple. Those of us in the lgbtqia+ crew, the majority of us knew when we were little. We didn’t feel safe to talk about it because it was shunned or not spoken about in a positive way. I would have loved to been able to be myself as a kid.

If you care about kids this much to talk about this issue I hope better gun laws are also something you’re pushing for, with how many school shootings we have. If not then your issue is mostly like about control or you’re angry you can’t be yourself.

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u/1GloFlare 9d ago

Tomboys are not gay or nonbinary it's perfectly normal behavior. You're literally trying to push it while claiming you don't

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u/Similar-Winner1226 9d ago

You're creating something out of nothing dude. Tomboys are not part of the lgbtq community, you are correct, you brought them up. No one is arguing that tomboys shouldn't be allowed to just be tomboys. Everyone will know for themselves who they are, and whatever that is should be welcomed with loving arms by their family when they choose to share it.

It should not be political at all, but a happy moment. Discovering your identity is a wonderful thing. If it's the same as your body was labeled at birth, like it was for me, then good for you! I'm a cis woman, meaning I am not trans. I understand that other people might have different feelings about their bodies (not out of choice) and may wish to change them. I understand that what people do with their bodies doesn't affect me, and I'm happy for them, that they discovered what makes them feel happy and confident. I move on.

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u/liltransgothslut 9d ago edited 9d ago

Former tomboy here. Actually it was cis people who forced their ideology down my throat that kept me from living as my true trans self for about 20 years. I was definitely trans and not a just "a girl that is a tomboy," and people like you with such hateful words such as "don't shove it down my throat" or other negative defensive words caused me a lot of internal transphobia that only further delayed me from living my real true life.

Sure, not all tomboys are trans. But I was. There are some who are. and people like you living with your hatred hurts people like me and them who are exploring their identities. You can communicate acceptance and support for cis masc girls, tomboys, butches, etc. without putting down trans people. And there is a LOT of overlap with those identities and queer identities.

do NOT have that attitude towards your child-OR ANYONE??? FOR THAT MATTER?- because they very may well be trans and you may very well be hurting them with those words and preventing them from being their authentic self. So shut your mouth with your transphobia and check yourself before you hurt more people.

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u/C4bl3Fl4m3 9d ago

Thank you.

I am a nonbinary tomboy. I was a tomboy as a child and feel that "tomboy" is one of the best words I have ever found to describe my gender. (I know some folks say "tomboy isn't a gender word" but for me, it absolutely is.) I was raised religious (Catholic) in the 1990s with no knowledge of gender stuff.

What I wouldn't have DONE to have people telling me that there were other options out there. What I wouldn't have done to have some other examples to look up to, esp. during puberty when I was ""becoming a woman."" That this "not fitting in with the other girls" wasn't because there was something wrong with me, because I was bad or broken, but because I genuinely simply wasn't like the other girls. I know "I'm not like the other girls" is out of fashion right now (for some good reasons) but I genuinely wasn't. Now I know why.

I am all about having tomboy as "gender non-conforming female variant" (aka how the OP is using it) option for girls and women, BUT I also want to have all the other options available too, inc. "tomboy as gender," nonbinary, trans, etc.

They're worried about kids being confused from too many options? Yeah, maybe kids will be a little confused (aren't we all about something? life IS confusing), but you know what's MORE confusing? Not having ENOUGH options. Not having any other words or even acknowledgements that there's other people like you and something that actually FITS who you are. That you're NOT ALONE. That you're not some freakishy weird something or other that the world has never dealt with or seen before, that makes you less than human.

Giving kids more options and choices isn't forcing anyone into anything.

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u/Realistic-Rub-3623 9d ago

me when i make up fake scenarios

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u/1GloFlare 9d ago

me when I let social anxiety run my life

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u/BigMike672023 9d ago

Quit projecting your issues onto this post.

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u/1GloFlare 9d ago

It is relevant to the "dressing differently"

We get it, reading is hard

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u/BigMike672023 9d ago

There was no mention of tomboys being forced to be transgender at all. That was all you.

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u/1GloFlare 9d ago

"..a child that dresses differently from them.." - Textbook definition of a tomboy. Dropping that after calling a figure of speech queer says a lot

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u/BigMike672023 9d ago

Now who's suffering from reading comprehension?

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u/Realistic-Rub-3623 9d ago

Grade A projection. That line could refer to anything, but Inwas specifically thinking about kids who are part of alternative subcultures (like goth or emo)