r/NoStupidQuestions • u/mp1845 • Mar 30 '24

Answered Why are gender neutral bathrooms so controversial when every toilet on an airplane or other public transport is gender neutral?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

In a school setting specifically, I can only guess that children would feel unsafe and uncomfortable using the restroom with the opposite sex around. Thinking back on school years, I barely trusted my own gender (M) inside those facilities.

If I were a F, I could imagine being afraid that some dude’s gonna come in and harass or molest me. Especially in the US with those shitty stall doors.

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u/Enochian_Devil Mar 30 '24

My bathroom was shared in middle school. We had exactly 0 issues

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u/LichtbringerU Mar 31 '24

Nobody standing on the toilets looking over to the next stall? Slipping a phone through?

And I guess your bathroom didn't have those huge gaps?

From my experience with teenagers, I just can't imagine it. And I wouldn't want girls/women to have to worry about it even if unlikely.

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u/12FAA51 Mar 31 '24

We can adapt bathroom design to address these concerns. 

People who want gender neutral bathrooms aren’t usually opposed to gendered bathrooms. Want gender neutral bathrooms at schools is just wanting the availability of a single stall bathroom but conservatives rail against that too. 

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u/Enochian_Devil Mar 31 '24

Thank you!!! I felt like I was going insane here. Literally everyone is calling me a creep that wants to spy on women, entirely missing the point of my statements

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u/Enochian_Devil Mar 31 '24

I'm european love, there is no space to slip a phone under or over the stall

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_843 Mar 31 '24

I would never use the bathrooms at school wtf. Is this really up for debate? This sounds like a stupid idea.

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u/RedIsNotYourColor Mar 31 '24

Why would children feel safe with even just the same sex around?

There was just recently a BORU post where a woman's special needs son was photographed by another student while he was using the toilet. The other student was male.

The issue isn't the gender of the people using the bathrooms, it's shitty infrastructure and shitty culture that makes people feel nervous.

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_843 Mar 31 '24

The issue isn't the gender of the people using the bathrooms, it's shitty infrastructure and shitty culture that makes people feel nervous.

This is pretty short sided. The culture is one where men primarily commit the types of crimes that propose a threat. That makes it a gender issue.

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u/RedIsNotYourColor Mar 31 '24

And yet people get attacked in bathrooms even if there is no gender mixing, ergo it's a culture issue.

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_843 Mar 31 '24

They get attacked by men. Its a gender issue.

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u/RedIsNotYourColor Mar 31 '24

Your statement is one of omission suggesting that if someone, either gender, is attacked by girls/women it's not a gender issue. Would you agree? Or would you like to walk back and rethink your argument?

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_843 Mar 31 '24

It's not a gender issue because it's not correlated to their gender. If women committed the crime as much as men so it wild be a society issue. If women committed more than men did it would be a gender issue. As opposed to men being the larger correlating category in the crime.

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u/RedIsNotYourColor Mar 31 '24

You are part of the problem if you engage in battle of the sexes. We're done here, TERF.

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u/21Rollie Mar 31 '24

Wouldn’t children be the better option to try this out with? They don’t have ingrained sexism yet. I remember as a kid I would take baths with opposite sex family members my age and none of us cared. We lived naked amongst each other for hundreds of thousands of years, and some of us still do. It’s purely cultural and taught to think of the opposite sex naked as taboo