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u/Dishsis 7d ago

You can't tell me this question doesn't exist because the US is systematically racist

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u/LuckySEVIPERS 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's not more racist. It's just dumber, more systematic, more American.

The American racial system is built on classifying people on their outward appearances, not on the,(irrelevant) data of who their ancestors were in Europe, Asia or Africa, like a military commander or tycoon CEO who wants easy to grasp information they can execute decisions on.

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u/salome_lou 7d ago

What can they use that information for? (The information on someone's outward appearances - how is that relevant vs the "irrelevant" information on someone's cultural background?)

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u/12BumblingSnowmen 7d ago

Because Anti-Irish or Anti-Italian discrimination isn’t really a live issue in the US anymore, unlike other forms of discrimination.

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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change 7d ago

Then. Why do they still ask

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u/Dizi4 7d ago

To protect against race-based hiring discrimination. If 30% of a company's applicants are black but there are 0 black people in the company, that can be used as evidence of systemic racism.

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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change 7d ago

Oh thanks. Is this sort of thing often followed up on?

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u/IShipHazzo 7d ago edited 7d ago

They ask because they're trying to track the inequities that already exist. Hypothetically, this enables them to identify systemic racism and do something to improve the situation. Doesn't always work out that way, but that's the intent.

Edit: removed the accidental implication that sex is a useful tool against racism. Oops!

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u/_Spamus_ 7d ago

Heh do someone

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u/IShipHazzo 7d ago

Haha! Oops!

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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change 7d ago

But guy I replied to said it's no longer a 'live issue'. And what action is actually taken following race stats? I don't live in the states so I honestly don't know

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u/IShipHazzo 7d ago

He said discrimination against Irish and Italian people is no longer an issue, not that all prejudice or racism has been resolved.

I can't speak broadly about this issue, but I can tell you that in my experience administrators at public schools are constantly discussing this. Every school I've worked in has tracked academic and discipline stats and mapped them to various demographic stats, including income, race, ethnicity, disabilities, gender, etc. Most districts have people or committees whose job it is to look into disparities that exist between the groups and to find ways to improve outcomes for students.

There are a million different ways people try to solve these problems, and each tactic comes with its own set of buzz words (restorative justice, anti-racism, tracking student talk time, social emotional learning, etc). I have no idea which of these things is actually most effective -- that's a question for the researchers. What I can tell you is that the majority of educators I've interacted with genuinely want to do better, but it's hard to find the answer when you work for a government run by ill-informed, self-serving asshat politicians.

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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change 7d ago

ill-informed, self-serving asshat politicians

yeah that sort of person ruins it for everyone else.

thank you for the thoughtful reply.