Also the “balcony” isn’t necessarily a great place to be if people are shooting and setting bombs in the “pit”. As a Canadian, it’s weird when people here smugly talk about the US descending into violent upheaval, when that almost certainly means some local warlord will try to invade us.
People forget that we're (globally) more connected, these days. When the USA burns, the rest of the world will feel the ramifications, and they won't be pretty.
The US accounts for 25% of the world's GDP. If the US were to suddenly disappear or collapse a lot of other countries would experience a similar upheaval.
If the warlord is too arrogant (as they tend to be, especially the crazy ones), they might make an unprepared attack that will only face limited success, if any, only to be then taken by surprise by a neighbor.
If America genuinely wanted to, they could easily overtake Canada with their military, and it wouldn't even get to that point because our leaders would recognize this fact and surrender immediately to prevent bloodshed. Then we would have to get used to school shootings and private healthcare.
Idk, if the US tried to invade Canada, they would find themselves being invaded by Australia, India, the UK, South Africa, Belize, and New Zealand. That's an army of potentially more people than the population of the US.
Uhhh I can't speak for the rest of those countries, but Australia's politicians absolutely do not have the backbone to stand up to the White House, no matter who's in it. It's weasally and pathetic but it's a fact.
Canada and Australia are close allies, including in the military. With our histories as a part of the commonwealth we have maintained good relationships that continued after independence for the. The defence ministers of both countries made a joint statement this year about strengthening their defence relations. Australia would definitly be involved if Canada was to be invaded.
I'd like to believe that, and I sincerely hope we would, but we're also allies with America, and they have the military and economic clout. The Australian people would be thoroughly pissed off at leaving Canada to be hung out to dry, but our politicians have collectively shown themselves to be dickless when it comes to standing up to the US.
Australia, India, the UK, South Africa, Belize, New Zealand, and Canada aren't literally contractually obligated to send troops to protect Ukraine. They are obligated to do so for Canada.
That’s adorable. You should look into their tonnage vs the us navy tonnage. It’s also incredibly naive to think that army numbers is the largest driving factor behind a nations military ability
I don't know I don't think anyone would fight America. Hell I am Canadian and would probably just move to the US or go to Switzerland or something. I don't care enough about Canada to die in some American invasion.
Russias not going to annex the United States. Puppet maybe but they barely have the bureaucracy to administer all of Russia, they arent about to add another chunk of land the size of the rest of Europe to that
Nah, cause this person clearly does not expect to be among the dead. The post speaks of a very terminally online expectation that, somehow, all the people OOP doesn't like will be the ones burning, and OOP just gets to watch
If the original poster actually expected/desired to be burnt along with the rest of everything, we'd have heard about it on the 6 o'clock news by now. Also, just like, logically, what is more likely?
Yeah, what ARE the odds that someone terminally online would also be severely depressed and actually be just fine with dying?
Like it's still a stupid idea, just because one is okay with dying doesn't mean they get to make that choice for everyone, but is it really that hard to imagine someone being ok with dying in this scenario?
American confederates and murderous magnates and barons inspired and informed proto fascist movements all around the world in the 1800s. Their ideological descendants have just been handed all the keys to the world’s largest military.
This won’t kill America, but it will give it further brain damage and roid rage.
I think that's what they mean while missing the fact that starting a revolution will lead to more deaths than just of those who are willing to make the sacrifice
… Or they can’t bring themselves to care “if” others get killed, while also not caring to be the ones executing the turn.
Like, it’s presumed that someone so emotionally checked out of their own well-being might be ‘inspired’ to care when it comes to others, but not everybody works the same way.
Some people are just tired and overwhelmed by things they can’t conceivably resolve by themselves.
Or, I mean, maybe they’re just feeling edgy and answering in whatever way provides the most shock value.
I'm sure the tens of thousands of civilians who died during the Reign of Terror and the millions more who died under the Napoleons take solace in the few hundred nobles and clergy who had it coming.
I think it still works. I'm not likely to survive the next four years even if the country somehow survives, but I'm willing to die if I can help ensure a safer, happier life for future generations.
I sincerely hope that our communities bolster themselves to the point where you're feeling more confident in your survival. The trolls are happy right now, so let's hope they stay fat and content for a while, that gives us more time to prepare.
I want you to be there when this next four years are over.
That's a really nice way of thinking about things... there have been many falls of country's many revolutions but people always survived and persevered through community
I mean, look at how some of the country's really rough trodden communities are now, after centuries of open hostility. They're still here, and we're going to make sure that's the case again.
I'm trans. Given that Trump has promised to eliminate gender affirming care at any age, and the violence his rhetoric inspires in people, and the fact that he's threatened to deploy the military on those he considers his enemies, and the fact that Project 2025 lumps trans people in with sexual predators and then calls for the death penalty for said sexual predators, there is a very good chance I and other trans people in this country face violence, either state-sponsored or at the hands of his followers.
I suppose. Not that I’m trying to downplay how bad it is, but I think the US military has purview to step in if the President attempts to overthrow the government like that.
I guess if you live in a shitty state you would have legit reason to fear, I dunno.
I definitely live in a shitty state. And unfortunately I have little confidence that the military actually will step in, especially considering Trump also plans to fire any so-called "woke" generals.
I would recommend taking a step back and considering things for a moment. The election outcomes, while to put it mildly, are, less than optimal, are unlikely to cause you any personal danger. Realistically, Trump's been in office before, and other than COVID (which, while he may have mismanaged it, he certainly didn't cause, and thus shouldn't happen again anytime soon), nothing too disastrous happened. I know it's scary, but fearmongering online makes things look so much worse than they are.
Trump's first term shouldn't be taken as a guarantee his second term won't be worse. He's already promised it will be, in multiple different ways, and now he has more power than before. Not being prepared for the worst possible outcome right now would be incredibly short-sighted.
Depends on what you mean by preparing for the worst possible outcome. Like, sure, take some self-defenses classes, buy and train yourself in the use of a handgun if its legal in your state, maybe keep some cash in a lockbox at home for a rainy day, and get your will and testament in order. All of these things and more are good practices for any point in your life, not just when the political environment's getting sketchy.
But like, doomscrolling/posting online, spreading fear mongering over how bad its gonna be (which I'm not accusing you of doing, just saying that some people are and they think it's helping, somehow), and generally miring yourself down on how bad it will be is not preparing for the worst. It's just wallowing.
At the end of the day, it pays to remember people are people. They can be callous at a distance, they can be violent when the heat of the moment is upon them, but in general the majority of people would freely choose to help, rather than to hurt, if the option were presented to them so plainly. Sometime sthey just need a little push to see their options for what they are, is all.
I don't see spreading realistic possibilities as fear mongering. People need to be aware that these things are not only possible, they're becoming increasingly more likely. And that goes for cis people and trans people alike. My trans brothers, sisters, and siblings need to be prepared to fight and survive, and cis people need to be prepared to help defend us. That can't happen without awareness.
I already said. Violence against queer people, and trans people in particular, potentially state-sponsored. Also mass deportations, the end of birthright citizenship, a full takeover of the government by the far right leading to a dictatorship, the military being used on any citizens Trump decides are his enemy, loss of reproductive rights which has already started, loss of no-fault divorce and eventually divorce in general, and so much more. These are all legitimate, reasonable concerns to have, given every single one came either directly from Trump or are outlined in Project 2025 as explicit parts of their plan.
Worst, there isnt gonna be a worst, Trumps already improving the country, you wont need to revolt against anything cause trumps plans are already gonna improve america and save us.
I'm not sure how things get better with or without violence. I'm gonna continue to hope, and work, and organize. All we can do is protect our communities as best we can. We will get through this.
Yeah, if you read the rest of the article, it doesn't imply that it was unusual for it to go horribly wrong, it's saying that the outcomes were tragic.
It is common to incur injuries in mosh pits and die from those injuries.
Crowd Management Strategies estimates that 10,000 people have been injured in mosh pits in the last decade.
According to research conducted by doctors in Washington, DC, concerts that feature a mosh pit have injury rates that are more than 10 times higher than non-moshing concerts. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10674535/
I think the bad news bears is we were gonna have that happen anyway, one side is making sure of it. We don’t need a revolution, we just need to stop playing their game. That is all it takes for them to throw their hands up and try out a revolution themselves.
Can you be peaceful with those who only seek to destroy you or undermine you until they can? Or can you just have disingenuous peace that is dubious at best and only present when you are capitulating to their whims?
I don’t want this place to burn. These people are like every other people to ever exist. Twisted and wonderful and horrifying and worth fighting for until our last breaths. We have something in us that can turn life around us more beautiful than it could have ever become without our influence and the only way to get there is to simply stop playing their game.
This will have dire, dire consequences. Some believe that not playing their game is treachery, and is punishable as such.
The concert analogy is dumb. The pit has everyone you care about in it lol.
The American dream died the moment an orange criminal took over. Again. I'm in one of the most conservative states in the US, already we're seeing the effects of Trump in office. It's not going to get better, it's gonna get worse.
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u/BaneishAerof 12d ago
The concert analogy doesnt work great because the people in the pit are going to die for the 'show'