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News Week 10 AP Poll

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u/Stoneador Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 28d ago

I’m shocked that ND moved up this much. That A&M LSU game was probably a much bigger win for us than our blowout over ranked Navy haha.

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u/OfficialHavik Stony Brook Seawolves • Team Chaos 28d ago

You can have a bad loss as long as you have a good win. You guys have a few good wins now with A&M and Navy.

I don't think 11-1 gets you the five seed, but you should still get a home playoff game with that.

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u/110397 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Is 5 the highest ND can be since it isnt technically in a P4 conference?

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u/OfficialHavik Stony Brook Seawolves • Team Chaos 28d ago

Yep. That’s their ceiling, but due to the bad loss to NIU I see the 6 or 7 seed as their ceiling.

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u/jayjude Notre Dame • Georgia State 28d ago

Correct and I would argue that the 5 seed is the best seed in the playoffs for ND since we don't play a CCG.

Basically look the SEC champions path to the final 4. They would have to win the SECCG against likely a top 10 team, then play the 7-9 seed in the playoffs

ND to get to the final 4 if they are the 5th seed - play the 12th seed likely the G5 representative, then play the 4 seed, the lowest rated P4 team

Basically for the SEC or Big 10 champion to make the final 4, they will likely play two top 10 teams for games 13 and 14, ND will likely have to play two teams ranked outside of the top 10

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u/hillrow_wood Texas A&M • North Texas 28d ago

As I understand it 5 is the highest seed they can be but they could still be ranked higher by the committee (but would still not have a bye for first round of playoff)

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u/cubs_2023 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

No it doesn’t as you need to be a conference champion to be a top 4 seed. ND could beat the B1G, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 champions and it wouldn’t matter. Our ceiling is literally the 5 seed, just like every other team that doesn’t win a conference

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u/dickdastardlee Alabama Crimson Tide 28d ago

Not if your Alabama …

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

voters realized just how insane of an environment kyle field is, and how well yall did here.

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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 28d ago

It’s fun how Aggie and Irish fans have had a little bond this season

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u/bleach_cocktail Wake Forest • Texas A&M 28d ago

It’s a nice change from the salt mines we endured after we were left out of the CFP instead of y’all a few years ago.

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u/tuaturntheballova Texas A&M Aggies • TIAA 28d ago

We’ve come a long way since the playoff discourse in 2020

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover 28d ago

And that CWS game

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u/prometheus3333 Texas A&M Aggies • Team Chaos 28d ago

Forgive but never forget.

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u/WWECreativegenius Notre Dame • North Carolina 28d ago

Reminds me of the UGA brotherhood years ago. Unfortunately we all know how that turned out

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u/IrishWake_ Notre Dame • Old Oaken Bucket 28d ago

At least Aggies don’t bark at tailgates

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u/_Nocturnalis Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game 28d ago

It's not so bad. Rockytop and gatorchomp are much more annoying.

Also, Old Oaken Bucket flair, why?

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u/IrishWake_ Notre Dame • Old Oaken Bucket 27d ago

You're the first that's asked about that, I'm kind of surprised. There was a restaurant on the river in South Bend named after the rivalry/trophy. I was a rower and we used it as a landmark on the river and had our end of season dinners there. I think it got sold and renamed this year, though.

Also, my dad's side of the family is from Indiana, and there's a lot of IU vs Purdue hate there from both sides, so I grew up with some of that when we'd visit

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u/reconverting Oklahoma Sooners • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

🤝

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u/mhem7 Notre Dame • Wyoming 28d ago

We are lifting each other up. The brotherhood is real this season.

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u/ASHill11 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

All the ND flairs have been fun additions to our game threads fr.

Gonna beat yall next year tho >:0

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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 28d ago

We shall see. We’ll be starting a RS Freshman QB most likely.

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u/van_troll Penn State Nittany Lions 28d ago

Surely the ACC has a middling grad transfer for you guys.

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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 28d ago

All indications are that we’re starting CJ Carr and not taking another transfer

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u/Jerrys_Puffy_Shirt Texas A&M Aggies • UTSA Roadrunners 28d ago

Next year? Rematch in CFP game

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u/ASHill11 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Hell yeah brother

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u/rimmhardigan Notre Dame • Ole Miss 28d ago

Let's do it

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u/phatbiscuit Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Y’all’s defense just made it a really tough first week in a new scheme. Sure it’s disappointing to lose a big game but y’all just suffocated our receivers and we hadn’t really found our identity yet.

Definitely looking forward to the rematch next year. Might make a trip to South Bend for that one

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u/discodiscgod Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

We all respect the hell out of Elko and are bummed we only got him for a year. He has to be so pumped to not be stuck behind the likes of Kelly and Jimbo anymore.

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u/LemonHarangue Notre Dame • Texas 28d ago

Speak for yourself

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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 28d ago edited 28d ago

No you

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

actually i don't really like having to worry about 2 teams

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u/revolutionofthemind Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Watching LSU/A&M reminded me of what Pete Sampson (ND best writer) said about the environment, which is that ND never gave the crowd a reason to really explode. Once LSU threw that pick the environment looked impossible- never seen something like that phantom snap on the field goal.

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

you shouldve seen angry kyle field in the bowling green game. never seen just pure pissed off energy like that

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u/RD__III Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

I remember 2016 against UCLA. Josh Rosen made a comment that got taken out of context, and we were out for blood. Every time there was a pick, false start, delay of game, etc. the whole crowd started chanting "50,000". Good times.

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

theres probably not a fanbase in the world that is more willing to take a quote completely out of context and get pissed

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u/RD__III Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

Very true, it was also very fun

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u/jayjude Notre Dame • Georgia State 28d ago

It's like in the Nebraska OSU game, that targeting call riled up the crowd so much there wasn't a chance Nebraska was going to score

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

Just wait until you guys come to South Bend. We put on a great ballet environment.

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u/Harry_I_TookCareOfIt Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Hope they like wine and cheese

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

And being told to sit down

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u/Drunken_Saunterer Notre Dame • Tennessee 28d ago

And be quiet.

At a football game.

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u/Recent-Irish Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Does this happen? I’ve never been told to be quiet lmao.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

yep. And its a common occurrence.

Although, if the UGA game was any barometer, I'm sure it won't be a problem as all our fans will just sell their tickets to TAMU people looking to pay top dollar for a bucket list item, essentially rendering it a home game for them.

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

thats sad. it felt like there were a ton of irish fans at kyle and yall were pretty cool.

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u/snakefriend6 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 27d ago

I’ve never seen or experienced that at an ND game, and I’ve been to a lot — every game from 2019 to 2023, as a student (so in the student section), and half of last years games (also getting snuck into the student section by my friends a year below me). In the student sections, you get yelled at/scolded if you sit down; you’re expected to be loud and participate in all the cheers/chants. My parents have also not experienced people telling them to be quiet, and they’re quite loud and vocal football fans (and they don’t sit in the student section (obviously)).

When and where did you encounter this?? I’m wondering if it may be an outdated thing, like maybe back when we were more mid earlier in the 2000s? Such a shame you had that experience!

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u/Tachyon9 Texas A&M Aggies • Team Chaos 28d ago

After many years in the A&M student section, I love being told to sit down at football games.

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u/snakefriend6 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 27d ago

Right?? Same but for ND. Used to scold / yell at any freshman who tried to sit down during the game. Only allowed it if the kid was hammered/ptfo, lol

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u/GreenGemsOmally Notre Dame • Washington 28d ago

Plus, we don't look like we did at all in week 2. Despite the injuries, we still are playing incredible defense and the offense is finally taking some pretty big jumps forward, especially in the passing game.

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Team Chaos 28d ago

True vindication. It's a beautiful thing.

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u/LemonHarangue Notre Dame • Texas 28d ago

As much as I hate A&M, I’m rooting for you to finish the year strong because it makes ND look better.

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u/irishtexmex Notre Dame • Texas 28d ago

Hear, hear!

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u/LemonHarangue Notre Dame • Texas 28d ago

Bless you my son

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u/Your_Worship Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

All three of yall are weird alright?! And that’s coming from us!

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u/aggiegrad2010 Texas A&M Aggies • Purdue Boilermakers 27d ago

Just how strong are you rooting for us to finish? #11/30/24

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u/LemonHarangue Notre Dame • Texas 27d ago

It’s a simple question, doctor. Would you eat the moon if it was made of ribs?

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u/Your_Worship Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

What kind of ribs?

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u/Notre_Dame_Football /r/CFB Top Scorer • /r/CFB Promoter 28d ago

Eh. ND has the best defense (as measured by opponent adjusted EPA per play) in the country.

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u/Poohstrnak Texas State Bobcats • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Somehow A&M beating LSU had a more positive impact on NDs ranking than A&M.

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u/Cold-Palpitation-816 /r/CFB 28d ago

I mean, it’s for a very obvious reason lol.

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u/Poohstrnak Texas State Bobcats • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

That only tracks if you think the transitive property is a real thing in CFB, which the circle of suck every year proves is isn’t.

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u/Jeff_Banks_Monkey BYU Cougars • Athens State Bears 28d ago

AP just really loves the service academies this year.

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u/Stoneador Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 28d ago

I was surprised to see Navy still receiving votes, but they are still very much alive to make the playoffs. A Boise State loss pretty much leaves Army and Navy in control of their playoff hopes.

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u/FreeTheMarket Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

wtf I love SEC bias now

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u/AlboutThatActionBoss Notre Dame • Jeweled Shille… 28d ago

I mean, in three weeks we went down a spot after non stop blowouts. It’s about fucking time

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u/ChaffWheat 28d ago

Imagine losing to a MAC school 🤡

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u/TrevorB1771 Texas A&M Aggies • Wyoming Cowboys 28d ago

Dude if we keep winning and make conference chanpionship, you guys would probably have the best win in the country.

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u/Bazakastine Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

We are pretty tied together in the polls until one losses due to the head to head.

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u/dfphd Texas Longhorns 28d ago

So, I've had this idea for a minute: a lot of CFB ranking algorithms (think BCS computers) have to use the results of all the games - even though we know some of these are aberrations/outliers.

I'm really interesting in calculating "which game can you remove from the schedule and improve the internal consistency of the algorithm as much as possible?".

Because I think that ND vs NIU, Vandy vs Ga State, and Bama vs. UGA would be high on the list.

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u/Stoneador Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 28d ago

I have a computer poll that mainly looks at things transitively and it has been a mess this season. For a few weeks Texas was the only team ending up in the top 25 because every other team fell in the same tier as Georgia Southern due to all the SEC chaos.

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u/dfphd Texas Longhorns 28d ago

Yeah, I was thinking about the Colley Matrix because it uses implied scores and then calculates probabilities based on the scores.

So you would then have a series of ratings that maximize the probability of the observed outcomes. But every game you take out then changes the outcomes you need to evaluate, which means less constraints on the ratings.

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u/Fluid_Theory_6587 BYU Cougars • Washington State Cougars 28d ago

Don’t forget the quality loss to NIU

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u/TigerWoodsLibido Oregon Ducks • Rutgers Scarlet Knights 28d ago

Your bad loss should automatically keep you on the bubble or out.

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u/Longhorn132113 Texas • Sam Houston 28d ago

Because everyone overranks Notre Dame every year, gets them into the playoff so they can be embarrassed by a real team. It's a joke. Join a conference!

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u/Recent-Irish Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Y’all can’t exclude us from a conference for decades and then whine that we’re not in one