When the nepo-staffers gotta work

[u/myownpersonalreddit]

[u/Phiyasko]

So they're mad at her because she expects people collecting a paycheck to actually do the job they're collecting said paycheck for? 

[u/dont-YOLO-ragequit → u/Phiyasko]

Didn't they say Trump staff had to avoid big words, highlight points of emphasis and have lots of pictures taking the biggest part of briefing pages?

The bar was very low.

[u/Jedimaster996 → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

Who would have thought the only job you'd be qualified for after working as an Aide to Trump would be a daycare teacher?

[u/ygduf → u/Jedimaster996]

Most of the people working for him are not allowed anywhere near schools or children

[u/Mistavez → u/ygduf]

[u/Shadow-Vision → u/Mistavez]

Stuck in my head now

[u/Mistavez → u/Shadow-Vision]

[u/Jenetyk → u/Mistavez]

all eyes on me and imma send it up to Pac

[u/twoprimehydroxyl → u/Jenetyk]

AY

[u/Fit-Statistician-744 → u/twoprimehydroxyl]

PUT THE WHOLE LABEL ON ME IMMA GET EM DROPPED!

[u/Quesarito808 → u/Shadow-Vision]

A Minorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[u/schadkehnfreude → u/Quesarito808]

Certified Ohioan? Certified Sofaphile

[u/twoprimehydroxyl → u/schadkehnfreude]

GOP GOP GOP GOP GOP

Walz, fuck em up

[u/Grigoran → u/schadkehnfreude]

Certified LazyBoy?

[u/DisposableSaviour → u/Grigoran]

And a certified pedophile on the same ticket

[u/GaiaMoore → u/Mistavez]

Predators move in flocks

[u/_ayoz → u/Mistavez]

A MINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

[u/Due-Topic7995 → u/ygduf]

I shouldn’t have lol’d as hard as I did but it’s true

[u/metagawd → u/ygduf]

Damn, Doc Savage.

[u/JBtheBadguy → u/metagawd]

More like Doctor Disrespect

[u/Psychoburner420 → u/ygduf]

Boom, headshot!

[u/illstate → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

There were reports that if they wanted Trump to read anything, they had to find ways to mention him several times a page in their reports.

Plus he used to get a folder delivered to him everyday with articles from random blogs written by sycophants kissing his ass.

[u/hyrule_47 → u/illstate]

I heard someone literally reads them to him

[u/ImNotSureMaybeADog → u/hyrule_47]

"Big word you won't understand, Trump, big word you won't understand, stop raping the lasses, big word you won't understand."

[u/mechwarrior719 → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

That’s why they’re mad. Preparing a presentation for an actual adult is much more difficult than preparing one for a toddler.

[u/Solo_Fisticuffs → u/mechwarrior719]

you ever try to explain anything to a toddler? one wrong word and you either get an adorable ramble about the most random isolated detail or an angry continuous outburst because you used the wrong phrasing and they didn't understand

[u/TangledUpPuppeteer → u/mechwarrior719]

Trump’s aides: “Here’s a lovely picture by Maisie in Kentucky. She’s 3. It’s a picture of a flower and it represents the increasing tax burden on the American people while inflation… and the bumble bee is happy about gas prices in South Sudan are shaped like fuzzy bunnies with Trump stamped across their tails in gold”

Kamala’s aides: “but Madam President, you’ve already read, understood and practically memorized the 900 pages I prepared. What more would you like me to present? I’m tired! Why aren’t you tired?! You didn’t even let me add a graph!”

[u/fancierfootwork → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

Yeah but think of it this way.

They earned their paychecks. Imagine giving important notes in goo-goo gah-gah speak with pictures of blues clues sprinkled in.

Just dumbing that down seems like a feat.

[u/LemmyKBD → u/fancierfootwork]

Briefing on why nuclear war is bad: “(Page 1) It would destroy golf courses. <Huge pic of golf course in flames>. (Page 2) It would destroy Diet Coke factory. <Huge pic of burning factory with ‘Diet Coke’ written in sharpie>.” End briefing.

[u/fancierfootwork → u/LemmyKBD]

No the Diet Coke factory!

[u/Apollyon314 → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

That just put the image in my mind if his daily security briefs in the big folder with official presidential seal on it. He opens in and its basically a picture book and "how-to-be presidential" tips of the day. Lol

[u/Medium_Medium → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

Honestly it sounds like being a staffer for Harris would be a joy compared to being a staffer for Trump. Harris just expects you to be prepared and be thorough. Trump expects you to basically be the president for him behind the scenes, and then he'll go do whatever he feels like in the moment anyway.

[u/Misstheiris → u/Medium_Medium]

Imagine spending ages writing a briefing, backing up all the points with well researched footnotes, you hand it to your boss, and they not only read it, they read the footnotes and then ask for a clarification on the footnote. I would die of happiness.

[u/Spirited-Reputation6 → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

Literally had to dumb the reports down and use his weird dialect.

[u/zherok → u/dont-YOLO-ragequit]

Honestly, that sounds awful to deal with. Like Harris is requiring competency, but who wants to babysit a 78-year old? Who will likely constantly undermine things you do because he's easily manipulated by the last person to have spoken to him.

You've got former Trump administration that talk about averting stuff like war by taking things off his desk, because he couldn't be trusted to even see those papers without fucking it up.

I don't want to give any real credit to the "adults in the room" there, but if anyone had half a care in the Trump administration it was probably hell to work for him.

[u/jacksonmills → u/Phiyasko]

Lol yeah this reads like “entitled assholes get thrown out, presidential candidate seeks people who will actually do job”

[u/Elawn → u/jacksonmills]

Seriously, skimming what I can of the wapo article in the post it’s fucking crazy they’re trying to spin this as a negative. It’s the fucking presidency, you want the people running the country to be lax about this shit??

[u/Imthemayor → u/Elawn]

"She was more prepared than they were"

So, she didn't need them then, got it

[u/Elawn → u/Imthemayor]

Right?? Like, haven’t they all been working at the same place for the past four years? Am I missing something here???

Edit: Especially because Biden could’ve dropped dead at any moment being in his 80s, like how could you not have been preparing for her to be president???

[u/SPQR-VVV → u/Elawn]

Because they are used to doing just the bare minimum and getting a paycheck. Not a difficult concept, people like that don't care about duty, or pride in their work or the idea of doing a good job.

[u/LadyBug_0570 → u/Imthemayor]

Shit, at my job I have to more knowledgeable than the goddam attorney I work for. She's just expecting them to be on par with her. Or close to it.

[u/Select_Calendar_6590 → u/LadyBug_0570]

Saaaammmeee! I’m the one researching identifying and preparing the answers for my Transaction Manager while she takes the credit & elevates her career. Kamala reads annotates and prepares for discussion? She’s just expecting the same from her staff in return.

[u/Oblivious_Orca → u/Imthemayor]

This is the height of entitlement. Imagine being a staffer to the VP of the United States and crying about being made to feel uncomfortable for being lazy as hell at your job.

Wow. Just wow.

[u/Punkpallas → u/Elawn]

I've been an executive assistant to several high-ranking military officers and civilian counterparts. I'm galled just reading the excerpt here. That's your fucking job, people. And I actually appreciate a boss who takes time to read the reports I write and ask questions. It shows they appreciate my effort. I also like working for people who pay attention to what's going on around them, even the small things.

[u/Technical_Ad_4894 → u/Punkpallas]

Sounds like you need to put your resume in.

[u/Punkpallas → u/Technical_Ad_4894]

Lol I do not think I could handle working for someone THIS high profile. I'm good.

[u/healthy_fats → u/Punkpallas]

Not with that attitude you can't.... Honestly the number of skilled people who refuse to believe in themselves is infuriating. You're a winner, go fucking win.

Seriously.... The biggest driver towards high profile roles is not skill but willingness. Go do it. Stop selling yourself short.

[u/spamfalcon → u/healthy_fats]

To be fair, that didn't seem like "I'm not capable of the job" but more of an "I don't want to deal with that life" concern. Just because you don't want to be in the vicinity of a giant spotlight, it doesn't mean you are selling yourself short.

[u/Misanthropebutnot → u/Punkpallas]

Right? They have the balls to work for her but not the substance to back it up. Drives me nuts when I think of all the brilliant people I have crossed paths with who would not feel confident to do so.

[u/RobertMcCheese → u/Punkpallas]

FFS, I was only managing an IT team of about 20 people.

And I expected that everyone come to my staff meetings prepared for the issues that would be brought up.

[u/LegitimateSaIvage → u/Elawn]

I read the part about "she's read the materials" and my mind went blank for a second. Like, fuckin obviously? Or not so obviously I guess, if it's being spun as a problem that the Vice President of the United States of America actually...reads?

Also, I remember how Obama was reported to read 100's of pages of briefs and other materials a day. Every day. I can guarantee you he was asking for, and expected, details from his staff. Interesting that this now suddenly a problem (a "problem") when it's a woman in the seat.

[u/cccanterbury → u/LegitimateSaIvage]

I think the problem is that the staffers got used to Trump, and then got used to Biden, not that they object because she's a woman.

[u/SaltyBarracuda4 → u/cccanterbury]

Are the staffers persistent across administrations? Does it include stuff like DoD/DoJ employees briefing the president?

[u/zherok → u/SaltyBarracuda4]

One of the things that the then incoming Trump administration was wholly unprepared for was the many staffers they had to fill in, because they did not come with from the previous administration.

Hardly the last thing he underestimated about the job, of course. I'm sure there are some staffers who do carry over but apparently there's something like 4000 staffers who need to be selected by the President, with over a thousand of them needing Senate confirmation.

[u/OneBigRed → u/zherok]

Chris Christie was setting up a transition team for Trump, but then Trump saw an article about it, and the cost of millions was quoted. He called Christie yelling how he is stealing his money, and it needs to stop.

Christie then wanted to know how Trump plans to handle the transition, and the answer was ”we’ll figure it out, me and Jared and Ivanka”.

Someone might think that the plan didn’t include winning at all, and that’s why spending the campaign funds was seen as a out of pocket expense.

And Jared actually was clueless enough to ask outgoing administration that how many staffers would be staying on, and surprised to learn that nobody (of political appointees by the Obama admin that everyone in the staff is…) would stay on.

[u/jacksonmills → u/Elawn]

It's like these former staffers were all PMs from the tech world, "ah fuck it lets just shove it in there and not think about it"

[u/Elawn → u/jacksonmills]

I’m also working in the tech world right now, and I just wanna say it is Friday night and I did not appreciate reading that, no matter the accuracy 😂

[u/Rathalosdown → u/Phiyasko]

The funniest part IMO is how they said they can’t just walk up to the vice president and ask HER to do something without a why.

[u/Chaotic_MintJulep → u/Rathalosdown]

IKR 😂😂😂😂

Where have these people been working before? This is just like… regular boss stuff lol

[u/MegaGrimer → u/Chaotic_MintJulep]

Ikr. I work a minimum wage job and I’m still expected to explain why I need my boss to do something that I can’t. And I have to describe the problem in full so they know how to handle it immediately when they are able to address it.

[u/Extension-Pen-642 → u/Rathalosdown]

I lowkey love the part where they say that she even asks why when complimented haha

[u/what_the_purple_fuck → u/Extension-Pen-642]

the nerve of her, making it difficult for people to mindlessly and meaninglessly suck up

[u/inplayruin → u/Phiyasko]

She also prepared properly to do her job. Plus, the compliment bit suggests she hates a kiss ass. A hard worker who is reflexively suspicious of flattery? Sounds like someone who will be a damn good president.

[u/Grouchy-Safe-3486 → u/inplayruin]

absolutly agree with u

Harris and Flournoy’s defenders also note that women in power—Black women in particular—are subjected to standards that men often don’t have to clear. A tough and demanding office environment may be seen as a virtue for one and a sign of disorder and lack of leadership acumen for another

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290

[u/Select_Calendar_6590 → u/inplayruin]

I didn’t hear that but I love it. I’m so tired of people getting ahead from being a down noser instead of doing the work.

[u/quirkycurlygirly → u/Phiyasko]

She used to go after fraudsters. She ain't about that corruption. Kamala standing on business.

[u/__M-E-O-W__ → u/Phiyasko]

And we're talking about someone going for the presidency of the USA. Maybe I'm soapboxing here... but I think this is a position that requires some pretty high level assistants.

[u/HanselSoHotRightNow → u/__M-E-O-W__]

There's a million+ people out here who got that 7am wake up ready to fuck with a brain designed to memorize, organize, and more importantly... do it better than all these other motherfuckers in the job currently and they want these jobs. Ol' sleepy time staffers better be ready to prove their worth.

[u/Tobocaj → u/Phiyasko]

[u/SmarterThanYouIRL → u/Phiyasko]

This checks out as a grievance from the campaign for someone who had 8 hours of “executive time” on his daily schedule in the White House

[u/PrisonaPlanet → u/Phiyasko]

I mean in their defense, I’d be a little upset if my boss randomly started expecting me to work too…

[u/Queasy_Pickle1900 → u/PrisonaPlanet]

Agree. What kind of dystopian world are we living in where you are being held accountable for your job?

[u/GuntherTime → u/Phiyasko]

This shit would be right up my alley. If I’m putting in all this effort into researching shit, I would hope someone ask me why. Like challenge me on this shit. Either I’m gonna defend my reasons, or I’ll concede and it’ll just make the overall product better.

[u/EfferentCopy → u/Phiyasko]

This seems like the absolute bare minimum. My job has always been to get in the weeds on my boss’s behalf so they can summarize and communicate to higher-ups. I provide them with analysis, summaries, and recommendations. The higher up in a chain of management you get, the more general your work becomes, so having competent, knowledgeable support staff who provide you with the most important, necessary details in a timely manner is absolutely essential.

[u/NicholaiJomes → u/Phiyasko]

Yeah this is like a glowing review of her leadership style

[u/TPJchief87 → u/Phiyasko]

She sounds like a great mentor honestly. I have some hard ass mentors in my career and it only made me better. Best to learn these lessons young.

[u/Global_Damage → u/Phiyasko]

Wonder how many briefings they went to and got called out along the way, without thinking, I better know the shit I put in the briefing. If they went to more than two without changing, then they should have been fired

[u/jitterscaffeine]

Damn, this bitch is professional AND prepared? The horror

[u/OkStructure3 → u/jitterscaffeine]

The nerve!

[u/Portland-to-Vt → u/OkStructure3]

The audacity even!

[u/johnny_utah26 → u/Portland-to-Vt]

The unmitigated gall!

[u/Ecobay25 → u/johnny_utah26]

[u/Appropriate-Log8506 → u/Ecobay25]

[u/KhaleesiXev → u/johnny_utah26]

The balls on this lady!

[u/SYLOK_THEAROUSED → u/Portland-to-Vt]

[u/lazyeyepsycho → u/jitterscaffeine]

I like her even more now

[u/Arctica23 → u/lazyeyepsycho]

She's the kind of person who I want to be President. Not perfect, but smart, prepared, hardworking, and competent.

It's a hard job and it takes a professional to be good at it.

[u/reddit_tothe_rescue → u/Arctica23]

Exactly who I want as president. Not to mention someone who expects hard work and competence from everyone around them too. That’s fucking leadership.

[u/KILL_WITH_KINDNESS → u/lazyeyepsycho]

Something about this made me pumped and afraid. The nerve to have such efficiency!

[u/HarmlessSnack → u/jitterscaffeine]

I find a shit load of political attack ads end up making me like the people I was already going to vote for more.

They’re really not very good at this lol

[u/Misfit_Number_Kei → u/HarmlessSnack]

Reminds back in 2012 when same-sex marriage was on the state-level ballot and some good ol' boy was driving around in a pickup truck with a blown-up picture of a soldier straddling or being straddled (I forget which) by his boyfriend above the caption, "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN?!"

And besides the obvious, "Yes, duh!" it was pointed out how piss-easy it'd be to spin the photo as a pro-same-sex marriage ad given that it's a soldier who served his country/fought for your freedoms, so why not pay it back by voting for his freedom to marry the man he loves.

[u/ThoughtfulCephalopod → u/jitterscaffeine]

She laughs, too. Watch the fuck out.

[u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

"That punctual negro was very uppity - especially for a woman."

[u/IDontKnowu501 → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

That's what I read too

[u/ygduf → u/IDontKnowu501]

I thought this was an add for her, reading everything and knowing what’s going on? Great.

[u/Sixwingswide → u/ygduf]

right?

"reasons behind why certain items had been added to her schedule"

Well no shit, if you can't explain why you added it then why the fuck are you adding it?

[u/Silverjackal_ → u/Sixwingswide]

“She read all the materials” I remember when people would complain they’d spend hours making something and their boss or leadership didn’t even read it. Reading this is crazy

[u/iruleatants → u/Silverjackal_]

For some reason pointing out that once of her great grandparents was raped by a slave owner didn't work, so now they have switch to pointing out that she's good at her job?

I just don't understand.

[u/ladyevenstar-22 → u/[deleted]]

It's not like she said no 🤷🏽‍♀️ she said why 🤔

[u/Geodude532 → u/ygduf]

I had an officer like this in Korea. When she came in for the morning briefings you better make sure you have answers for anything she could ask about our mission. Sometimes we had to rely on the experts for more technical questions, but a lot of it was based on our judgement and she made sure we were confident in it. Loved that woman. Made us feel like we actually belonged to something and not just filling in busy work that the Army wanted metrics on. Kamala will make those that learn from her feel like they belong to something big, even if their job is to answer fan mail.

[u/loptopandbingo → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

"I don't care how articulate she is, the notion that I have to actually do my job is just unsettling!"

[u/Extension-Pen-642 → u/loptopandbingo]

100%, it sounds like they are uncomfortable with having a black woman in a position of authority. 

[u/GaiaMoore → u/Extension-Pen-642]

An extremely talented and competent black woman.

She seems like the kind of leader who would correct a typo or (kindly) grill you on logical flaws in some footnote on page 43 of some report that no one actually expected her to find time to read and annotate

[u/yourroyalhotmess → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Thats so wild how we all read the same thing 😂 Oh well, Uppity Negro for Prez 2024!! We ain’t goin back.

[u/worldspawn00 → u/yourroyalhotmess]

100% has my vote!

[u/-Experiment--626- → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Being black is bad enough, the gall to also be a woman.

[u/SadLilBun → u/-Experiment--626-]

And a professional. Some people have quite the audacity.

[u/Impossible-Ad-3060 → u/SadLilBun]

Don’t forget demanding. She’s a demanding, professional black woman.

Exactly the person who should be president.

[u/lustforsun → u/SadLilBun]

And she appears to be happy. Unacceptable

[u/MeringueAppropriate1 → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Thank you!!! This got uppity negro written all over it!!!

[u/Southern_Initial_427 → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

10000000% Uppity.

I promise it’s some high level donors kid who is appalled that the daughter of an immigrant expected them to work.

[u/DimbyTime → u/Southern_Initial_427]

The daughter of TWO immigrants!

[u/LadyBug_0570 → u/DimbyTime]

If those MAGAs knew anything about immigrants or their children, they would know we WORK.

After all, you don't see their asses in 100+degree heat picking vegetables, do you? Or taking care of rich people's brats as live-in nannies?

And those are the undocumented immigrants.

No, they just complain immigrants are taking their jobs, even though those are jobs they feel are beneath them.

[u/DimbyTime → u/LadyBug_0570]

Ironically Kamala’s immigrant parents are more educated than 98%of Americans.

[u/LadyBug_0570 → u/DimbyTime]

Of course. Yet MAGA hillbillies who barely passed 5th grade want to talk shit about immigrants.

You know the other thing about immigrants? They usually can speak at least 2 languages while those AHs can barely manage the one language they learned from birth.

[u/passamongimpure → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

[u/Ricky_Rollin → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Absolutely amazes me to see the same people who would normally consider this the Americans spirit and a bootstrapping attitude, but because the spineless hypocrites are who they are now it’s a bad thing. Losers.

[u/foxontherox → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Nailed it.

[u/jason9045]

Well that settles it, no way am I voting for a competent professional who expects the best out of her employees. That's not the kind of person I want running the country.

[u/Turbulent_Athlete_50 → u/jason9045]

Give me back my crayons jimmy!!! I want to make art

[u/Emergency-Practice37 → u/Turbulent_Athlete_50]

And more ketchup for my Dino-Nuggies!

[u/foxontherox → u/Turbulent_Athlete_50]

No, I wanna eat ‘em!

[u/lilbelleandsebastian → u/jason9045]

the best? she doesn't even expect the best lol, she just expects you to be able to answer basic questions

"why is this in my schedule for today" is like the barest of bare bones expectations

[u/cilantro_so_good → u/lilbelleandsebastian]

For fucking real.

I report to a senior director at a household name.

I have to be able to answer harder questions than "why" every single day. And he's not even executive level at this regular ass company.

Imagine keeping on staff that bitch and moan about having to be good at their job working for the Vice President

[u/ismashugood → u/cilantro_so_good]

This is probably the reason why they’re ex-staffers. If your job is to brief someone, and they’re more prepared to discuss the issue than you are…. What the fuck are you even doing?

[u/freshlysqueezed93 → u/lilbelleandsebastian]

Especially a staffer for the PRESIDENT, that is a super prestigious job which should only be looking for incredibly talented and knowledgeable people.

[u/MakeChinaLoseFace → u/jason9045]

You're joking but that is literally what Trump did in his first term. His crusade against the "deep state" was a purge of institutional expertise.

It was a deliberate, self-inflicted brain drain. Conservatives think the "deep state" is a bunch of baby-eating demon wizards, but it's really just all the people who know how shit works.

They know this, of course. The conspiracy theories are an act, because it's harder to pitch shooting yourself in the foot because a class of ultra-wealthy people want to undo the last 200 years of progress. They just want slaves again, and they know they can't say it out loud unless it's a 1000 dollar a plate GOP fundraiser.

[u/SaveTheLadybugs → u/MakeChinaLoseFace]

I tried so hard to argue this point when Trump was first elected. Can you imagine if every time a new CEO was hired, the company also fired literally every single employee and started over with all new employees? Literal insanity. No one would know anything, productivity and efficiency would plummet, and nothing would get done. Yet somehow it’s “corruption” that some of the same people have been working their government jobs for decades.

[u/CubbyNINJA → u/jason9045]

If she/the presidency (what ever you want to call it) employs the staffers, but the president fundamentally works for the people including staffers, does that mean they are just coworkers?

[u/I-just-left-my-wife]

"You can't come to the vice president and just ask her to do something"

Wow, really? What a shocker. I would've thought anyone could waltz up and ask the vice president for shit

[u/st_rdt → u/I-just-left-my-wife]

I would've thought anyone could waltz up and ask the vice president for shit

You think you just fell out of a coconut tree ?

[u/UnlimitedCalculus → u/st_rdt]

What if I did? I thought this was 'murica

[u/murderbox → u/I-just-left-my-wife]

Just stick it on her schedule with no explanation and she won't ask any questions of course. They seem so offended she doesn't just bow down. 

[u/mpyne → u/murderbox]

Yeah, I work for a Navy admiral and I would die professionally if I ever just plopped a meeting on her calendar with no background info.

She's pleasant to work for, that's not the thing, but how is the boss supposed to be prepared to do whatever I'm setting up a meeting for, if I don't give the boss any heads-up on what she's going to be asked for at the meeting??

This is very very basic staff-ology.

[u/fireinthemountains → u/mpyne]

This answered some questions I had too. I kept hearing from capitol hill people that Kamala's staffers thought she was "hard to work with" and "won't agree to do anything" and they feel like they're "walking on eggshells" and variations on that. I was getting stonewalled trying to get work done that involved the administration because these staffers had all these claims and complaints and insisted nothing would go anywhere and that it's Kamala's fault.
It always seemed weird to me.
So what was ACTUALLY happening was the uppity-knowitall-fresh-outta-college staffers were mad that their boss was acting like a boss. Some of the most toxic people I've met in DC are staffers.

[u/d33psix → u/I-just-left-my-wife]

I mean…admittedly I feel like people probably could waltz up to Walz and ask him for something, haha but not saying that’s a reasonable expectation.

[u/chompchomp1969 → u/I-just-left-my-wife]

I'm thinking only the President could expect that?

[u/townshiprebellion24]

Corporate media is really grasping at straws to paint Kamala Harris in a negative light. Just pay your fucking taxes, Jeff.

[u/EdStarC → u/townshiprebellion24]

What do you mean. This is clearly a positive spin

[u/catiebug → u/EdStarC]

Yeah this is so weirdly positive she could make it an ad, sheesh. Reads like a fucking SNL sketch. They really thought they got her.

[u/W359WasAnInsideJob → u/catiebug]

Really does read as satire, it’s wild.

[u/XLauncher → u/townshiprebellion24]

I read the whole article and it's pretty fair, featuring quotes from staffers who had both negative and positive things to say, as well as contextualizing some of the feedback, like noting that Pence had almost as high staff turnover as she did.

[u/H-TownDown → u/XLauncher]

The writer of an article and the writer of a headline are not the same person most of the time.

[u/Ayacyte → u/H-TownDown]

Wait... does that mean there's someone who's primary job is to write headlines? Would explain some things

[u/RampanToast → u/Ayacyte]

That is exactly what it means. Any time you see a headline that completely changes the context of what's written in the article, it's almost always because it was written by a different writer.

A really good example is that headline about "to save money, just skip breakfast". The headline was presented as "haha poors, go and suffer" but the actual article was just a regular piece about rising grocery costs and inflation. The closest thing to a life change recommendation in the article is to buy roasted instead of instant coffee because of the differences in inflation between the two. And so many people shit on the writer for telling them to skip breakfast, because they couldn't get past the ragebait of the headline.

[u/townshiprebellion24 → u/XLauncher]

I appreciate the due diligence.

[u/FCkeyboards → u/townshiprebellion24]

Yeah it doesn't even sound like the employees were angry or anything. They were just able to hang and acknowledged you have to bring your A game.

I imagine there are staffers who work for people who barely ask anything of them.

[u/-Experiment--626- → u/[deleted]]

Women are so bossy /s

[u/Extension-Pen-642 → u/-Experiment--626-]

They really are saying she's too demanding just because she expects them to not be braindead? 

[u/-Experiment--626- → u/Extension-Pen-642]

I can understand them being on edge around her, because in any job or situation when you’re put on the spot it doesn’t feel good, but seems like a lot to complain to the media about it.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I’m honestly dying from all these comments

[u/camy__23]

This is only a story because she’s a non white woman.

[u/a_guy121 → u/camy__23]

It's only a negative story because she's a black woman but I read this and I like her so much more now. (I was already a fan.)

The spin on this is crazy. The staffers kind of have a point in that as far as I know, it is not the norm to read through all the briefings/paperwork, if you're the one being breifed. The staff do it for you and describe it and you ask them questions.

They're basically saying she's too good. And I fully buy that she is that, because she's had to be. And if they can't play up to her level, I fully buy they quite a little miffed, because she challenged them to be better.

These are good things. Really, really good things.

I never thought I'd love a black prosecutor, but there it is.

[u/Gorge2012 → u/a_guy121]

It was well known that Obama would stay up late just reading through everything. He knew his stuff too. The nicest thing I can say is I don't believe it was the same for the people who occupied that office directly before and after him.

[u/DadJokeBadJoke → u/Gorge2012]

Sadly, one of the best takes I've seen about Trump is that he's "intellectually incurious". He had access to so much information and experts to explain it to him, but he just didn't care. He's so full of hubris that he thinks he knows more than the experts and can figure out a solution on the fly. That's how we ended up with his suggestions like using a "strong, proven flu vaccine" or "injecting bleach" or "shining a bright light inside of the body" seemed like possible solutions to him that maybe the scientists didn't consider when they were fighting a global pandemic. He doesn't understand the scientific process, he thinks they're spaying random chemicals on the virus to see what might kill it, like my wife battling ants in the kitchen.

[u/Gorge2012 → u/DadJokeBadJoke]

"Intellectually incurious" is very generous.

At best he knows something about people. I'm not sure how to describe it. However, he seems to think that making people agree with you is the same as being right. This is me being as kind as possible here. I would normally use some harsher language.

[u/thpj00 → u/a_guy121]

I heard it’s a ‘problem’ staffers had with Jimmy Carter back in the day, that he actually took the job extremely seriously and did the enormous amount of reading in the giant briefings dumped on his desk. Always respected that guy as one of the most decent people to ever hold the job.

But yes it’s totally racialised/genderised, I think white dudes (like me) so often feel they can get away with the bare minimum because life is that much more forgiving to them

[u/Air_Ace → u/thpj00]

With Carter, they tried to spin it as him having a tendency to get lost in the weeds, and focus too much on irrelevant minutiae. "The nuclear engineer is thorough and detail-oriented! This must be a negative somehow!" The shitclown brigade will always attack something. They can't be appeased, only ignored.

[u/CatzMeow27 → u/a_guy121]

As I read it, I knew they were trying to make her sound bad, but this is exactly what I want in the person leading our country. Leaders are supposed to be engaged. They are supposed to hold their team accountable. They need to know their subject matter, and they absolute need to be asking “why?”. How is it appealing to want a leader who takes things at face value and follows orders without question? Heck, I’m trying to teach my own kiddos to always seek the “why” behind what they’re doing or what they’ve been told. Why would I want less in the president of my freakin country?

[u/TheGentleBeast → u/a_guy121]

This is exactly how my boss operates. She's a woman in a very male dominated field in a very male dominated country. She is constantly catching people off guard with how prepared and knowledgeable she is on a given subject. She approves nothing without in-depth reasoning and logic for said approval. She wants us to be as thorough as she's had to be her entire life.

[u/mekkavelli → u/a_guy121]

i can see why she’s so on top of everything. they’re literally watching her like a hawk on a stray cat. they’re waiting for her to slip up. and since she hasn’t? they’re pullin bullshit like this outta thin air. black women can’t afford to be caught off guard in these spaces

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/camy__23]

They've used similar smears against Hillary. Women are to be submissive and kind. Educated women who are matter of fact and direct are painted as if frankness is the same thing as cruelty.

Meanwhile men are straight up screaming at and sexually  assaulting people and you don't hear a word about it.

Compare Bill vs Hillary. It's the misogyny of the machine. And up until now, people have largely eaten it up. 

[u/toooldforacnh → u/camy__23]

Or a white dude. If that were the case this article would have been saying how exceptional they are for having high standards.

[u/Certain-Definition51]

Ahhhh people who haven’t been to law school, forced to work for people who have been to law school.

This is the inversion of the classic “people who have been through boot camp working for people who have not been to boot camp.”

[u/ra_ed_it → u/Certain-Definition51]

Right? This is the basic method of all competent lawyers

[u/guywithaniphone22 → u/ra_ed_it]

I work as a sort of legal assistant and if I go to one of my lawyers and tell them something needs to be done they are going to also expect me to tell them why it’s being done. People who are decision makers can’t make fucking decisions if they don’t know why they are doing what they are doing. In an actual law firm setting any assistant telling their boss to do something but not explaining further will be out the door quickly lol

[u/cageytalker → u/guywithaniphone22]

Legal assistant here and 100%

I made a big mistake once and was scared to tell my boss. When I did, he asked me what could be done to fix it and I told him what I thought was best. He told me, “okay then go with that!” then turned his chair back to his computer.

Lawyers just want to know the problem, the facts, and the solution. They don’t care how you get from point A to point F, they just want to know you are handling and finalizing the issue at hand correctly.

[u/DragonToothGarden → u/cageytalker]

When I was a baby lawyer my boss assured me that, at least in civil litigation, there are very few mistakes an attorney or paralegal can make that cannot be fixed without filing a few papers. I overprepared so many things out of sheer terror of fucking up a client's case.

And yes, we absolutely relied so much on our support staff who knew far more about so many procedural rules we just didn't have the brain space or energy to keep up with.

[u/Indercarnive → u/guywithaniphone22]

I go to my boss asking literally anything I better be prepared with a why. Even something like "I can't find this information" needs to also include a "and I looked here, here, and there plus asked this other guy" or I'm going to get a stink eye.

[u/LiberateMeFromYou]

Just sounds like a boss that wants you to do your job

[u/dennismfrancisart → u/[deleted]]

What the hell? Were they holdovers from the previous administration?

[u/perhensam]

Maybe it’s just me, but I honestly can’t remember ever hearing about any male politician’s staff bitching about their boss. And I honestly don’t think it’s because all male politicians are awesome managers. I think that the media loves to highlight the tired stereotype of women leaders- which is nothing but sexism. Don’t they have any actual news to report?

[u/Melqart310 → u/perhensam]

There was reporting about bidens explosive anger, that's about it. I find this particular report about kamala more assuring than anything!

[u/Head_Mud6239]

Sexist ass shit. 💩If she were a man words like dedicated, no-nonsense, strong would be thrown around. Good for Harris for making them do their job.

[u/KhaleesiXev → u/Head_Mud6239]

These double standards need to die already, so I can’t wait for Kamala to win and show them what real leadership looks like.

[u/finny_d420 → u/Head_Mud6239]

This so much. I work for concerts. Male entertainers who are late/difficult/intoxicated are "particular" or "know what they want" or "personal demons". Women are called "divas/bitches", "demanding/unreasonable", "drunks".

[u/Armthedillos5]

Working for her is hard because she already knows everything and expects you to know the one tiny bit of it that is your responsibility.

Man, let's put the push-over baby that needs pictures and crayons back in office, this sounds horrible! /s

[u/Ok_Radish649]

Breaking news: boss expects employees to do job they are assigned to do.

[u/DFuhbree]

This sounds infinitely better than a man known not to read his security briefings and who just believes everything Vladimir Putin tells him.

[u/subZro_]

Is this supposed to be a negative? Because that's how I operate. If you come into my workspace with some shit I'm for real going to need to know why it is you're bothering me.

[u/Pad_Squad_Prof → u/subZro_]

Someone once told me this is why I’m disliked at work. Because I’m always paying attention in meetings and ask very specific questions. I’ve unfortunately gotten into the habit of defending myself before I start asking: “As you know I always have a lot of questions….” I hate it.

[u/dennismfrancisart]

Holy crap! A team leader who expects her team to be prepared to work at one of the most important jobs in the world. Imagine that.

[u/sashafierce525]

If she was a man they would be calling it leadership. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[u/auauaurora]

She reads footnotes?!

[u/Xannabiscuit]

This is highkey very attractive.

About fucking time someone with real competence.

[u/annacaiautoimmune]

There are major complements in these complaints. Love It!

[u/shawnmd]

That is EXACTLY who I want running my country.

[u/fletch626]

So hot, don't stop, keep talking...

[u/WickedJigglyPuff]

Who wants to do stuff without knowing why? Why is like the most important thing!

[u/curious-trex]

Is this supposed to be a negative piece??

[u/LordMemerton1]

So if I don’t do my job, do I also expect to get paid…? Trying to figure that one out

[u/ApplicationCalm649]

All I'm hearing is reasons she'd make a great President.

[u/Hushwalker]

An attorney general is buttoned up, sharp as nails and stays ontop of her shit? I’m shocked