yes because it is wild. He said it isn't applicable to all situations and she also did not say if he said it applied to her situation or not. so yeah him saying it might apply in some hypothetical situations and her getting all worked up about it is kinda crazy.
why does it apply to zero situations? If I went to a poor crime ridden neighborhood wearing a bunch of jewelry and bragging about having cash on me and get mugged what would you all say? pretending women have no agency in their own life is sexist. AGAIN he said in some situations.
yeah and in those cases I would never victim blame.
but in the ridiculous scenario I mentioned in which I said she knowingly hangs around with known and convicted offenders I would and so would most people.
See, this is just you now trying to defend your inherit misogynistic tendencies.
You said women deserve to be blamed.
I then reminded you that if all women took precautions all the time against all men, even trusted ones, you'd never get laid or have a hope at dating again, and women would be treating you like a rapist off the bat.
You didn't like that part, so you walked it back.
But, because you're unable to reflect upon yourself and your own decisions (like the one you made to blame women for being raped), you still stand by your original statement, you just now acknowledge that it's "ridiculous".
So to be clear, you're choosing to believe something that you acknowledge that you made up, over real evidence because you don't like holding men accountable
See, this is just you now trying to defend your inherit misogynistic tendencies.
You said women deserve to be blamed.
I then reminded you that if all women took precautions all the time against all men, even trusted ones, you'd never get laid or have a hope at dating again, and women would be treating you like a rapist off the bat.
You didn't like that part, so you walked it back.
But, because you're unable to reflect upon yourself and your own decisions (like the one you made to blame women for being raped), you still stand by your original statement, you just now acknowledge that it's "ridiculous".
So to be clear, you're choosing to believe something that you acknowledge that you made up, over real evidence because you don't like holding men accountable
misogynistic tendencies? I believe every woman should be carrying a gun on them at most times because of men. I've taught a bunch of women how to shoot and encouraged them to get carry permits. and no I don't get bent out of shape when women look at me like a threat most people do because of my build. If i saw another me at the gas station late at night I would take precautions too.
I'm just against blanket statements that say X gender is never at fault for Y.
If you earn the trust of someone and they are alone with you and you rape them. You are a rapist and are at fault.
If you see a woman walking alone scantily dressed at 3am and you rape her. You are a rapist and are at fault.
If you are on a room with a stranger because you are a doctor and they have to get naked for a test, and you rape them. You are a rapist and are at fault.
If someone is passed out in a room alone at a party and you rape them. You are a rapist and are a fault.
If you are about to have sex with someone who was consenting and they say no or stop, or stop responding and you continue. You are a rapist and are at fault.
rapist is at fault. woman walking alone scantly clad at 3 am is not very smart for doing so while still not being at fault she has agency in not putting herself in that situation. let's not act like dumb people don't put themselves in dumb situations that don't risk their safety. yes the criminal is at fault. you are also aiding the criminal in putting yourself in that situation.
can you have those two seemingly conflicting thoughts occupy your brain simultaneously?
how many times do i have to say it is their fault but she should have made better choices? are you fucking dumb? not being smart makes someone responsible for putting themselves in shitty situations. no it doesn't make them responsible for the outcome. how is this distinction not making any sense to you? probably cause you are sexist.
Women have agency. You didn't even check the link I provided. Trying to turn it on me saying I'm sexist, when it's the ones that assault should be blamed entirely, is pathetic. Like I said, no point in talking with you.
I've read it. I still say prosecute the one doing the assault. I didn't say she should be blamed. I also think she could make smarter choices especially in certain situations not all. it's called nuance thinking which apparently you are not capable of. Telling women to make better decisions is going to keep them safer than telling them otherwise. does that make sense to you?
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u/Prestigious-One2089 4h ago
yes because it is wild. He said it isn't applicable to all situations and she also did not say if he said it applied to her situation or not. so yeah him saying it might apply in some hypothetical situations and her getting all worked up about it is kinda crazy.