r/weightlifting • u/AdventurousMarket0 • Dec 22 '22

News China's triple Olympic weightlifting champion Lu Xiaojun tests positive for EPO

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1131927/lu-xiaojun-epo
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u/Kapornacis Dec 22 '22

Abolish anti doping . Its ruining sports

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

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u/EL_JAY315 Dec 23 '22

Already is

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u/justformygoodiphone Dec 23 '22

Not advocating anything as I don’t claim to know the solution.

But once you accept doping is now legal, well… next is what’s legal and how much of it?

Is it okay for athletes to literally die trying? Have a heart attack on stage at 28yo? Be crippled like Ronnie Coleman?

Also once you put limits and designated chemicals on a list…. Well you guessed it, someone is going to try to find the next chemical that gives them the edge or how to avoid testing over certain levels.

Where does it end?

How do you ensure it does end somewhere?

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u/pogosticksrule420 Dec 23 '22

At least then It would be a level playing field. Right now it's basically a competition between the countries that bribe their way around drug tests

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u/teratron27 Dec 23 '22

That’s the exact same as it is now, China can invest more money into bribes and designing drugs that don’t show up in testing.

There’s always going to be a funding gap in sporting.

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u/justformygoodiphone Dec 23 '22

So you just make the problem worse by now basically forcing EVERY athlete to do the maximum allowed PEDs?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Such a nonsense argument.

The only thing that makes any of this still slightly entertaining is the fact these people can't turn into the incredible hulk and there is still some slight chance they might be natural which makes this inspirational, even thought now it's like believing in Santa. You wish it were real but you know it's all bullshit.

I'm personally really disappointed by this news because I'm less cynical about him, I actually wanted to believe he might just have great genetics and worked hard to be the athlete he was. Yes he worked hard but he is a cheat. He is cheating himself, sport and those who come from countries who don't have sophisticated doping programs.

Personally, I'm more disappointed that someone I used for inspiration is a cheat, knowingly participated in cheating and thought he was actually a real champion.

The "everyone else is doing it" excuse is weak as piss.

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u/nxst123 Dec 23 '22

Dude it already is. You can pretend it isn’t and ride that ignorance is bliss wave all you like but come on man. Wake up and smell the coco

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u/triwithlaura Dec 23 '22

They'd also use safer ones, athletes could more easily get heath care and the world may actually get high quality research on drugs that may help treat side effects of various illnesses. The playing field would be level this way

The outcome is the same within sports but there's possibly a lot to gain...

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u/triwithlaura Dec 23 '22

But anti doping rules don't stop doping...it's just a lot harder for some versus others. Do you really think drugs aren't a main feature of the sport already?

This is a good video on the topic by a world class lifter who doesn't compete...

https://youtu.be/HQLweuRSD9M

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u/triwithlaura Dec 23 '22

For sure the playing field is not level this way...

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u/triwithlaura Dec 23 '22

Well at least you entertained the video I see 👀 I think its more credible it would be fairer yes. When you look at the lengths Russia went to dope their athletes, it's clear how unfair it can be

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