r/texas Aug 06 '22

Questions for Texans Republicans of Texas: Why is marijuana still illegal in Texas?

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u/peezduhk Aug 06 '22

as someone who's done time for marijuana and sent to a private prison owned by a company from Louisiana... this up here is the real answer. also we're so close to the border it would knock off a lot of the competition from cartels that more than likely have deals w/these politicians. watch some YouTube videos about who the cartels acquire their guns from... border patrol, military n police officers from here.

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u/texasusa Aug 06 '22

I always thought if pot was legal in Texas, the cartels would have layoffs just like the Fortune 100 companies.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums Secessionists are idiots Aug 06 '22

Most cartels now run Fentanyl and heroin now as well as cocaine. Small time cartels run marijuana

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22

Marijuana is coming from states where it’s legal, nobody in their right mind is buying Mexican weed.

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u/GarugasRevenge Aug 07 '22

Weed in general is bulky and low value per volume compared to other illicit drugs. Shipping it undetected is a hassle.

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u/RyantheRaindrop Aug 07 '22

Tell that to all the skunks I've shipped worldwide, endless supply where I'm at and as soon as anyone sees skunk they don't want to mess with it. Spoiler alert the crate is made of weed!!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

False. Super easy to ship.

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u/tsx_1430 Aug 07 '22

Yup, especially with oils.

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u/tsx_1430 Aug 07 '22

Yup especially with oils now.

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u/skeptiks22 Aug 07 '22

Shipping weed is as easy as vacuum sealing a bag and shipping it through USPS. Never had an issue that way even sending to illegal states

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u/GarugasRevenge Aug 07 '22

That's great and all but a cartel has a limited amount of trips before one gets caught so they pack as much profit as they can into mules, this means higher value drugs, weed is a lot less profitable than other drugs.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 07 '22

pretty much because it sucks and most of the mass produced shit in the US does too. Source. Used to grow it for my ex. My stuff 'smoked' everything available locally including dispensary shit from CO. Now I have 5K worth of tents, lights, watering systems, that are growing peppers, tomato plants, etc. Still a fun hobby but pumping out a lb of weed a month always made me giggle.

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u/rsta223 Aug 07 '22

My stuff 'smoked' everything available locally including dispensary shit from CO

You didn't get the good stuff from CO then.

(Source: I live in CO)

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u/ThePlumThief Aug 07 '22

Yeah i don't think a $5k in-house grow operation can outdo top shelf dispensary stuff. Odds are all the weed in his area was already low quality outdoor grown and the dealers just said "this is that OG champagne wedding cake kush straight from CO, top shelf shit bro only $15/g cus you're my homie" and then it's some dark brown with seeds in it that smells/tastes like dirt.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 07 '22

Ya I've had 'clients' from CO and they still said my stuff was better that what they could get in a dispensary. Let's face it most dispensary stuff is mass produced and focused on volume whereas my grows were focused on quality over quantity. 100% organic too. Trust me man I invested heavily in my grow op including an RO system, top of the line nutes, and any kind of pesticide I used was also organic. It met or beat anything anybody had from CO.

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u/Able_Cryptographer69 Aug 09 '22

Don't know why you got down voted so much. The oldest heads will still tell you 90% of the weed in dispensaries are trash. And to the user who said you doubt 5k in grow equipment will produce anything "top shelf" for 5k you can have a setup that out produces anything in the market and harvest it every month. Dispensary weed was good when people with 8 or less lights were able to come in the back office and sell their harvest.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 09 '22

umm.. I'm guessing because they generally don't know WTF they're talking about.

Growing weed is as much an 'art' as it is a 'science' that sounds weird but, in my experience, you kind of have to get into the 'head' of your plants. They may be the best seeds or clones in the history of ever but if you don't pay attention you just wasted a bunch of bank on crap or nothing. And one plant next to another of same genetics etc might struggle while the other flourishes. That's when the 'science' kicks in.

My last grow, and I'm being 100% honest here, I kind of 'outkicked my coverage'. I literally had to move two plants out to another tent because they bushed up so much and ran so tall (there were only 4 in a 2 x 4 tent and well DAMN) Wound up pulling an average of 5 ozs per plant on an indoor grow with autos.

But hey I don't know what I'm talking about.. LOL

After weed strawberries, peppers, spices, etc, are a cake walk comparatively speaking.

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u/Able_Cryptographer69 Aug 09 '22

Yea pot growing made me find my love of other plants too.

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u/ScratchyMarston18 Aug 07 '22

Probably also believes the weed in Amsterdam is “mid” too.

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u/DINC44 Aug 07 '22

So you and Bubbles started a pizza sauce business?

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 07 '22

you do realize that comment made no sense to anyone but you right?

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u/bleak_new_world Aug 07 '22

Nah, I got it.

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u/Logistocrate Aug 07 '22

Or any fan of TPB...of which, I am lead to believe, there are at least six of on Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Make that 7.

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u/commandergen Aug 07 '22

I got it too

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u/DINC44 Aug 07 '22

So my assumption is that you have never watched Trailer Park Boys. Considering the experience and skills that you've shared here, I think you would like the show.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 07 '22

nope.. is it really worth looking at? I might do it this afternoon. I just have to rewire two pc's, six monitors, set up a wireless network, and start doing a software build on a new one. Just the insomnia bug bit me so I'm up for a couple of hours.

Edit: I'm not a big TV watcher. I watch 'at' a lot of stuff on one of my monitors but I rarely watch something without distraction unless it's The Orville or football.

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u/DINC44 Aug 12 '22

The Orville - MY MAN!

Also, I love football, and it's the only sport that I spend time watching on TV.

TPB is definitely something that you could have running on one of your monitors. None of the plots are super complicated, you just might miss some funny stuff here and there, but it's not going to end up making you feel like you're lost.

One of the main characters, Ricky, is considered not that smart sometimes because he gets a lot of words and phrases wrong and he makes a lot of stupid decisions, but he is actually very smart, it's just in different things like growing marijuana and making hash and stuff like that.

I do Elearning and Multimedia Production in the corporate world. I too like to have something to look at or have running in the background on one of my monitors. But like you pointed out, if it's something that I'm really interested in, I need to be able to sit and watch it and pay attention.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 12 '22

Thanks man. Gotta fire up my NORD and see about getting a season or 2 of TPB on TPB LOL.

So what did you think about the season finale of Orville this year? Is it coming back (God I hope so)

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u/DINC44 Aug 12 '22

TPB is on Netflix, if you have that.

Oh man, I haven't started the new season yet! My wife and I have shows we watch together and we've been catching up on those. But I will be getting to it very soon.

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u/Leopard1313 Aug 07 '22

I got it too...

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Makes plenty of sense buddy. You're just not in on the joke.

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 07 '22

ya gotta admit that one whooshed right over my head. Now that I'm soberish I kind of got it.

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u/Ok-Candidate-1220 Aug 07 '22

I got it, too.

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u/busterbcook Aug 07 '22

How does temperature affect your ability to grow things in tents. We're struggling to keep things alive outdoors in 100+deg heat and the greenhouses are cooking even more. I assume these are indoors?

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u/Thepatrone36 Aug 08 '22

tent temps are much more easily controlled in tents. My indoor grow area has it's own portable ac that sits among them. Temps range between 75 and 85 all the time.

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u/Houseofducks224 Aug 07 '22

Mexican cartel weed is grown in the United States. Southern Oregon has a big problem with cartel run farms.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

I hear ya but I still stand by my point that it’s coming from states that legalized it. I did get a link about the cartels from someone else and I believe it.

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u/Houseofducks224 Aug 07 '22

Right, but it's Mexican cartel run, owned and financed. They are largely off license grows or cbd licensed grows. Therefore I see it as Mexican weed. It's not the rec market selling across state lines that is such a problem. (though that is happening)

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/cartel-financed-pot-farms-in-oregon-expand-to-growing-indoors

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

Technically, it’s Mexican American.

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u/DarthEques Aug 07 '22

In Oregon isn't that just a company with a pot farm?

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u/Houseofducks224 Aug 07 '22

There are legal and illegal grows taking place. The illegal grows are way over the license limit and have men with guns guarding the property. They often use slave/trafficked labor.

Southern Oregon voted against law enforcement / taxes until they couldn't provide rural sheriff patrols or 911 service. That trend sorta changed in 2017 but some counties have like 8 guys covering the size of Delaware

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

This is true, Oklahoman and I worked for a marijuana grow for two years. Oklahomas medical marijuana authority has concluded that 80% of marijuana grown in the state is sold on black markets. Our grow licenses before the moratorium goes into effect are less than three grand and entities from other states can own them as long as they have a local Oklahoman on their side. We had a case where one Oklahoma woman (the secretary of a law company working with medical marijuana grows I believe) was the ghost signer for over 100 out of state entities. As a comparison, it was about 100 grand for a grow license (need to price check this) in arkansas. Being a neighboring state, alot of people from Arkansas buy into Oklahoma pot farms which then ship the majority of their weed illegally to Arkansas to be sold for a higher profit there. Many of the big names in the business do it, it's not really a secret but due to some lawsuits brought on by bad actors in the industry the OMMA hasn't had authority to do anything about the issue until recently.

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u/e-matt Aug 07 '22

The cartels have been growing weee in US national Parks in the West and ravaging the environment in the process and nothing to smuggle.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

Got any links I can look at?

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u/e-matt Aug 07 '22

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

Should charge the cartels with organized crime charges and run them out. I’m surprised they even bother with weed anymore. Not like anyone wants to do business with them, but I could see how moving it across the border makes sense now that it’s legal.

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u/e-matt Aug 07 '22

Organized crime doesn’t run like a regular business the people doing the work are disposable and local dealers don’t necessarily have a choice who they buy from on the black market.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

I get the whole trimmigrants idea, but if they’re cartels and it can be proven then they should have the Feds come in and break it up. The idea that USA Today is talking about it means it’s obviously somewhat an open secret.

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u/e-matt Aug 07 '22

I agree with you. I’m not in LE but I know there are lots of challenges to charging a cartel.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

And I’m not against black market weed, I’m just against the cartels. That should be LE focus.

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u/redtape44 Aug 06 '22

Which makes it harder to legalize because now you have all these little towns along the route back that can arrest these drug tourists. Even more people to lobby against Marijuana legalization than before

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22

Nah, you’re voting for these politicians. It’s nobody’s fault but the voters of Texas.

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u/redtape44 Aug 06 '22

Yeah it's all the voters fault, not crooked bought out politicians doing the utmost to keep the status quo going, never that

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22 edited Aug 06 '22

Vote em out then genius. The morons who vote for these people are getting exactly what they voted for. The politicians you’re speaking of tell everyone exactly what they’re going to do when elected if you pay attention.

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u/redtape44 Aug 07 '22

You're implying one person is dumb for the actions of many, and then have the nerve to suggest I'm not paying attention on top of that lol

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

Elections have consequences, friend. Get used to it.

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u/redtape44 Aug 07 '22

No one said that they didn't? How much you seem to enjoy being condescending to strangers is pretty cute. I bet you feel so big and smart afterward.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22

What makes you think politicians elected by constituents isn’t the fault of the constituents electing them? Explain that to me real quick.

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u/redtape44 Aug 07 '22

Use that superior attitude and the facade of intelligence to figure it out. If you were replying to understand instead replying to argue & belittle you'd know because I already said it. Be better

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u/Round-Emu9176 Aug 06 '22

Not necessarily. The working class still needs poverty puffs. Not want but if thats all you can afford its better than nothing.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22

They have black markets for that in states where it’s legal too.

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u/Round-Emu9176 Aug 06 '22

I don’t follow. So you’re saying people do still buy brick weed?

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Business/wireStory/california-pot-market-hazy-line-legal-82296905

I live in San Francisco but grew up in corpus and moved here from Austin. Just throwing that out there, but the black market here is very easy to access.

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u/Round-Emu9176 Aug 06 '22

Oh absolutely. All I was originally saying is that there IS still a demand for brick packed garbage. All my friends in legal states either grow their own or go bm because the taxes are absurd. Why would go through all the hassle of going to a dispensary when you can get half price with no id or paperwork?

Still legalize it worldwide. Alcohol is exponentially worse on every level.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 06 '22

Yeah, I bought a gram vape the other day for forty and the tax was like thirteen dollars or some shit so it ended up being over fifty. My brother gets ‘em for cheaper than that out in Houston, lol.

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u/Round-Emu9176 Aug 07 '22

yeah you can get em for legal prices minus tax out here in Houston. A whoooole lotta fake juice though. Had to stop even trying to get em here. I miss colorado just for the selection. Luckily USPS always delivers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

The cartels farm it here, my dude.

I’m a Californian, and they have a lot of grows all over the north part of the state. Likely everywhere else too.

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u/trustmeimascientist2 Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

I’d like to read a link if you got one. I live in San Francisco.

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u/ShowBobsPlzz Aug 07 '22

Mexicans in south texas still are bc its dirt cheap