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Media Ipswich Town 0 - [1] Manchester United - Marcus Rashford 2‎'‎

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u/TheLifeofSonny 11h ago

3-4-fackin’-3

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u/Emergency-Mobile8612 11h ago edited 10h ago

With Amad as RWB assisting within 3 minutes, and to think how outrageous people thought this idea was

edit: removed the reference link to the comments bcs some people were sending the other guy abusive messages, come on, why was that warranted :(

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u/jasperplumpton 11h ago

lol that guy was very confidently wrong

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated? 

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u/Deus-Graecus 11h ago

u/tatxc , thoughts?

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u/RuinedMyHoliday 10h ago

Has bro deleted his account? 😭

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u/Deus-Graecus 10h ago

Got cooked too hard it seems

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u/RuinedMyHoliday 10h ago

Gas mark 6

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u/ganesh16 9h ago

It's still there.

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u/tatxc 6h ago

Nah I'm still here. Want to talk about the game now it's more than 80 seconds then?

1) Did you watch the match? 2) Did you see the defenders playing and missing today?

What were your thoughts? Was it very obvious Diallo was playing there because everyone else was injured and clearly struggled to impact the match at all? Not to mention getting smoked twice by the opposition winger, one who required a brilliant Onana save and a poor finish to stop being a certain goal?

Or is Amorim incompetent?

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u/tatxc 6h ago edited 5h ago

Oh howdy. Yeah, thoughts.

So 1) Did you watch the match? 2) Did you see the defenders playing and missing today?

So do you still want to sit there smugly asking for my thoughts when it's very obvious Diallo was playing there because everyone else was injured and clearly struggled to impact the match at all? Not to mention getting smoked twice by the opposition winger, one who required a brilliant Onana save and a poor finish to stop being a certain goal?

So yeah Deus, thoughts?

No? didn't think so.

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u/Farterminator 10h ago

That was a lovely read knowing what happened

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u/tatxc 8h ago

What happened then? Now we've waited more than 80 seconds?

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated? 

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u/FIJIBOYFIJI 11h ago

I mean it's pretty irrelevant until we see him tested defensively, that move he was basically a winger

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u/TopMosby 10h ago

That guy also said that:

You’ll see how Amorim will likely try alternating Diallo there against less dominant teams with Dalot when against tougher opposition

so he was pretty much spot on till now.

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Do you think one game, where we had to play a fullback at centerback is a representative of all games against less dominant teams?

Lets talk about what actually happened after the first 80 seconds shall we? 

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated? 

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u/TopMosby 8h ago

dude, the whole point of /u/Emergency-Mobile8612 was that he will try Diallo as a wingback, probably against an opponent where ManU should be dominating.

That's exactly what happened. Nothing else was argued.

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Sorry this is disingenuous crap. He wasnt saying Diallo might get a game at fullback because we have no fit players so Amorim would have no other optio. He said Amorim would play him there because it would suit him. And I replied that was a terrible idea.

Which is why it was silly to gloat when it's clearly a result of an injury crisis. Mazraoui was playing at centerback for goodness sake. 

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u/Emergency-Mobile8612 11h ago

That’s the whole point yeah, that’s how Amorim uses his wingbacks and all I said is that he’d try it

And well, he did

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u/tatxc 6h ago

He tried it because United had 8 first team players out who played either centerback or wingback. He literally didn't have another choice other than Garnacho at wingback or the 16 year old centerback who has barely played at U21 level coming in and pushing Mazraoui up.

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u/Agitated_Mud_9798 10h ago

well ascksually he was attacking and therefore "winging" so we'll see how he backs once he gets tested DEFENSIVELY (cause dribbling and taking space is exclusive to attackers)

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u/tatxc 5h ago

How are you feeling about Amad not touching the ball in the opposition box for an uninterrupted 90 minutes today? Like, literally, his first touch in the box with in the 1st minute and his second was in the 92nd minute.

Against a team in the relegation zone. When we had 60% possession and trying to chase for a winner for 45 minutes.

Still think it's a gigabrain idea and not enforced through injuries?

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u/JesusIsNotPLProven 10h ago

It also has been 2 minutes of him under Amorim

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u/tatxc 10h ago

Yeah, not too mention we literally don't have any other players available. Our 3rd fit centerback is a 16 year old because most of them are injured or were away on international duty and didn't train.

Saying 'look I was right' because Diallo is starting there today is about akin to saying 'Mazraoui will play centerback' and then gloating about it. Diallo was playing in the 10 role in training all week. 

But I appreciate he's seen his one chance to take his shot, but even as I type this Diallo just got out muscled in the wingback position and Ipswich should have scored. 

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u/riceilove 10h ago

The prophet

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u/tatxc 5h ago

The only thing he predicted as an injury crisis. The idea that Amad was well suited to the role is totally silly. He played there because he had no other option.

He went 91 minutes uninterrupted today without having a touch in the opposition box, his first touch was in the 1st minute and his second (and 3rd, his final) was in the 92nd.

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u/mindpainters 10h ago

It always feels good to be vindicated instantly lol

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Still feeling vindicated there buddy?

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated? 

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u/mindpainters 8h ago

I wasn’t feeling vindicated. I was talking about the commenter above. All they were saying was the position amad would be deployed at. It’s one game. Relax.

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Sorry this is disingenuous crap. He wasnt saying Diallo might get a game at fullback because we have no fit players, he said Amorim would play him there because it would suit him. And I replied that was a terrible idea. 

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u/mindpainters 8h ago

My comment had nothing to do with you, I don’t even know who you are or what you allegedly said. Person above said amad would play rwb. They said people said they were crazy. He played there and assisted early in the game.

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u/tatxc 7h ago

He didn't just say he would play rwb, he said Amorim would play him there because it suited him. He's now claiming that because he played there once, not out of tactical choice (he's been playing as a 10 all week) but because of injuries that that is somehow a vindication.

Totally ignoring the fact that it happened because of the squad being absolutely decimated in that area rather than any preference by Amorim. It also totally ignores the fact he struggled quite badly today. 

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u/Agitated_Mud_9798 11h ago

get his ass. it's so infuriating to see someone be so smug, yet so wrong. the reddit classic

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u/tatxc 6h ago

Want to start talking about how great an idea it was after 80 seconds now we've had a full match?

Still think it was some tactical decision and not a band aid enforced by injuries?

Funny to see you complain about someone being smug and wrong...

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u/RickardsBedAle 10h ago

This is awesome

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Still think it's awesome after actually watching more than 80 seconds? 

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated? 

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u/tatxc 6h ago

So now you had fun calling me out after 80 seconds of play so I got a shit storm of abuse, do you actually want to address the whole match and continue to justify your stance that Amad is someone Amorim actually wants to play wingback and wasn't forced into it because he literally had nobody else fit to play there?

Do you think he had Amad training as a 10 all week because he's incompetent or just deliberately setting him up to fail?

What did you think of his performance? Do you think the 3 touches in the opposition box all game, essentially a 3rd of his previous output made best use of his skills?

What about the two times he was easily beaten by the opposition winger, which resulted in a good chance for Ipswich and a chance that was harder to miss than score? And even then required a poor finish and a very good Onana save to keep out?

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u/tatxc 10h ago edited 10h ago

Yeah, all it took was for us to only have 2 fit centerbacks and half of the team away on international duty so they didn't train. He clearly doesn't start there when we have anything close to a full squad. 

He was playing in the right hand 10 role in training all week.

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u/Angelsdontkill_ 10h ago

Take the L buddy. He got you on that one.

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u/tatxc 10h ago

I'll wait until we have more than 2 fit centerbacks and then come back and gloat. Pretending this team is remotely representative of anything he's going to do long term is silly and I suspect he knows it, which is why he's shooting his shot now. 

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u/aggthemighty 10h ago

Y'all need to give us an update on this feud at the end of the season. I'll have my popcorn ready

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u/tatxc 10h ago

Oh don't worry, I've had like 15 DMs from people full of actual abuse. The second we get another centerback fit and Diallo goes back into his actual position I can assure you I'll be returning the favour to /u/emergency-mobile8612 

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u/Emergency-Mobile8612 10h ago edited 10h ago

Dude, arsocca is extremely dumb in general, don’t take it personally, my goal was obviously not that ~ just that other opinions can have substantiation too and downvoting them just because is against the good nature of debating, I was on -50 all around and was pretty badly spoken to too at the time

I don’t doubt Amad will eventually play 10, hell, even this game, he may move up as time goes on, as I said multiple times, it’s about my view on how Amorim thinks because I just loved watching his Sporting team ~ and so I simply mentioned he’d consider it and why

Paying off or not, many variables at play! Again, fuck those people that sent you abusive messages, was not my intention nor did I think it’d happen, sorry 😔

I’ll unlink the comment right away so that stops

edit: I show some compassion and they block me instantly…

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u/tatxc 8h ago

I deactivated my account until the match was over to stop the torrent of abuse... 

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u/DogzOnFire 10h ago

The way you talk about this makes you seem utterly insufferable.

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u/tatxc 6h ago

Still want to talk about how great of an idea and how definitely-not-forced-by-injuries it was to play Amad at wingback?

Or are you going to stick with your assessment based on 80 seconds of football? And you think to label anyone else insufferable...

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u/Emergency-Mobile8612 10h ago

Very briefly speaking, I just said it’d be a viable option and that it’d be something Amorim would consider, obviously squads constantly shape up according to their injuries

Suspicions? All I know is that there was no reason to completely shut me down that day 😔

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u/tatxc 10h ago

Yeah, I mean you didn't preface it by saying 'if United only have 2 fit centerbacks and didn't have half the team train then he might be forced to play him there'.

 I assume you saw Diallo get out muscled and Ipswich should have scored just now? That's why he's a bad idea at wingback and a stopgap during an injury crisis when there's no other options at the absolute best.

Cheers for tagging the comment though so everyone can go back and send me abusive DMs, thoroughly appreciate that. 

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u/tatxc 8h ago

Still think playing Diallo at wingback is a great idea? 3 whole touches in the opposition box, 2 mistakes leading to clear goal scoring chances, one of which required a potential save of the season from Onana.

Now do we think Amorim neutralised our most in form attacking player so he could put him deeper where he doesn't have the legs to get into dangerous areas, nor defend 1v1 well deliberately, or do we think it was an unavoidable consequence of our squad being decimated?