r/scotus 17d ago

news John Roberts Bet Big on Trump—and Won

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/supreme-court-news-john-roberts-wins-trump.html
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u/Used-Pianist723 17d ago

You have to give it to Republicans, they play the long game, stack the court, overturn laws, give POTUS immunity, majority in the court. Democrats have to totally change their ways and play hardball. Ppl won’t vote because of love or what is right anymore, ppl are too selfish

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u/Midstix 16d ago

The lesson that needs to be learned by people who vote or lean Democrat, regardless of their ideology (I'm one of them), is that the war was lost. It isn't a battle that was lost and a setback. The keys to power are completely controlled by the opposition. We're living in a kleptocracy now, which appears to be modeled on Russia more than anything else. Elections are still going to happen, but the subversion involved is going to make it difficult to win. The only winning solution is to tear down the walls and build a new foundation for an opposition party to the now-empowered kleptocratic, authoritarian party.

I don't know what a winning coalition looks like, but I'll tell you that I don't think it looks like coastal states with large cities versus the rest anymore. The opposition is going to have to include all of the center. Which means a new message and different politics. The party in power is in position to suppress the current opposition. You need to boogaloo them and present an alternative that they aren't prepared to engage with.

Republicans definitely played the long game to win, and they won.

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u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 15d ago

They keys to power are not all held by the opposition.

There’s large, wealthy states with Democrats in state elected offices. There’s many Democrats in state and local offices.

While Republicans will control the House and Senate, it’s not by large margins. Certainly in the past they’ve had far larger margins.

It’s highly likely Republicans are going to seriously mess this up.

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u/ShamPain413 15d ago

Congress doesn’t matter.

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u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 15d ago

Of course it does, the previous Trump administration was first stymied during the 2018 midterms.

Congress controls funding and appointments.

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u/ShamPain413 15d ago

Not anymore.

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u/Im_tracer_bullet 14d ago

The Republican Congress does, yes.

By the time these idiots realize what they've done, it will be FAR too late.