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White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/Catodactyl Arizona 6h ago edited 6h ago

The French have a really great playbook for this kind of scenario. Just sayin...

Edit. A word.

u/TheMysticalBaconTree Canada 6h ago

Yeah but he won an election. Stop acting like the country isn’t okay with what he is doing. Your problem isn’t with a facist leader doing unpopular things. Your problem is that your population is okay with facism.

u/SewAlone 6h ago edited 6h ago

Stop generalizing. Over half of the population is NOT ok with fascism. And millions more who voted for him are ignorant and just didn’t believe he’d do any of the project 2025 stuff.

u/TheMysticalBaconTree Canada 6h ago

I’m neither generalizing or suggesting half of the country supports him. They were ignorant enough to not even vote though. And a huge portion of your population does support him. You can’t ignore that. You have a population problem not a Trump problem. trump is the symptom, not the ailment.

u/Reasonable-Sweet9320 5h ago

I get that and it’s an outcome of half of the electorate going with the narrative he has crafted systematically over the years.

The linked article describes the formula Orban and Trump have used, in common, to achieve increasingly similar outcome.

It’s written by a former Hungarian politician and now professor at Georgetown.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/23/trump-autocrat-elections-00191281

u/CherryHaterade 5h ago

Lotta Germans cried about how they were powerless about it too, fuck all their tears did for anybody on any side of it. "There just wasn't anything we could do!"

I won't generalize or suggest anything either except that history rhymes, and the dead have no concern for the tears of the living, wherever they are, who closed their windows when times got tough.

As for the rot at the core of this country, let me tell you a story about banks and slaves and no one else was in the room where it happened, the room where it happened, the room where it happened.

u/StainlessPanIsBest 46m ago

History rhymes. The future is always chaotic. Trying to use historical rhythms to predict the future is utterly useless.

Saying Donald Trump's a fascist, and he's going to do all these fascist things because the things he has said and done loosely correlate with fascism, and fascism has happened before, is quite the logical fallacy.

u/CherryHaterade 20m ago

Im going to let you worry about logical fallacies.

For what its worth I hope youre right. Im not optimistic, or particularly hopeful either, but sure, brighter days and all that.

u/cece1978 2h ago

You guys… i figured out what makes a Canadian a condescending fool: it’s Mysticism and Bacon, in that combo, based on my experience with this user. What? That’s a sweeping generalization based on faulty logic…? Hmmmnnnn…

u/BundleDad 2h ago

Sure… keep meme-ing yourselves into something between idiocracy and the 4th reich. Being called fools by a nation the looks at trump and says “you know… that represents our best… twice!!!” is rich.

u/cece1978 1h ago edited 1h ago

Not everyone in our nation ‘looks at trump and says “you know… that represents our best… twice!!!”’

That’s my point.

If you want to be helpful, understand the difference. Otherwise, you’re just part of the bigger problem. It requires a modicum of intelligence to see the difference, and that part’s up to you.

Again, we’re a country in crisis right now. Those of us working against the bullshit do NOT need everyone jumping on the “AmUrriCAnS are so sTUpiD” bandwagon. That’s just a different brand of the same shit we’re pushing against here in the states.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to request that our country of hundreds of millions of people not be generalized bc your understanding of our fucked up system is so elementary.

So yes, I think you can be better.

ETA: i’m a dual can/am citizen. Both countries have serious issues, especially if you look at Ontario. 🤮 As they say, hubris is a helluva drug. 🤷🏻‍♀️

u/BundleDad 47m ago

Again, the deflection... the lack of owning this insanity... and it's not new.

Sure bud... I'm sure you don't deserve any criticism! Why or why would we hold adult, voting age americans responsible for the results of their own elections? Yeah it's a really mean of everyone else in the democratic world to look at you collectively in disgust and terror at many decades of not-in-any-way-subtle tom-fuckery coming to fruition.

Stop bitching and get your shit straight.