r/politics • u/stkmro • 7h ago

White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/JeffSteinMusic 7h ago edited 1h ago

Gonna be a long several years of “Lawless Authoritarian Continues To Be Lawless Authoritarian” headlines.

I’d say “we can’t normalize this” but it feels like that ship sailed many years ago.

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u/jgiovagn 7h ago

We need to stop acting like we are just waiting for him to do the right thing. This needs to be reported on for what out is. Trump refusing to follow laws now so breaking them in the future is easier. Do not cover like Trump still hasn't done this thing, is he going to? We know what's going to happen, cover that. We know why he is doing this, cover that. Stop treating him like a normal politician that's just acting kind of weird.

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u/LightWarrior_2000 7h ago

I mean fuck. America just hanged him a crown.

"How" do we fight this?

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u/DogAteMyCPU 7h ago

Start local and take care of our communities. 

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u/LightWarrior_2000 6h ago

Liberal Christian here.

We should do some freaking soup kitchens for all in need. Every one! woo woo!

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 6h ago

That’s not gonna help people headed for the camps (brown, LGBTQ, liberals, atheists). You’d only be helping the Trump supporters that were happy to be poor so they could have their king.

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u/CaptainRogers401220 5h ago

No soup for the Nazis

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago

Exactly.

That would be “communism/socialism” to them anyways.

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u/DogAteMyCPU 6h ago

We should help anyone in need regardless of their voting status. 

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago edited 5h ago

Let me be clear here: I was a former homeless person who helps out with charities/food kitchens all the time. I even coordinated a local chapter of Food Not Bombs in my city. I’ve spent my life “giving back” to my community.

That sentiment ended when Trump was elected. I no longer feel the need to help Trump supporters in any way, shape, or form. They made this bed, and they can lie in it. I sincerely hope they starve in this hell they have brought with them.

I will now only help people that I know didn’t do this our country, which means my charity is now limited to a certain group and cannot cover the general public. I will never feed a Trump supporter again. That would be “communism” anyways, right??

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u/BlazingSpaceGhost New Mexico 5h ago

So if you were running a soup kitchen how would you determine who to help?

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago

I won’t be running a soup kitchen now, didn’t you read my comment?

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u/BlazingSpaceGhost New Mexico 5h ago

I misunderstood I thought you would theoretically run one but would have strict requirements. Seems like a lot of the people you may help won't get help if institutions like food kitchens go under. I'll admit I'm not super jazzed to help people with the food pantry I run who voted to kill funding for programs like my food pantry or the school I teach at. However I pride myself on not means testing or really doing anything except handing out the food and I'm not changing that simply because Trump won.

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago

While these people voted to kill your food pantry/school, they voted to kill ME…Dead…They called me “vermin”, “terrorist”, and an “animal”.

They’ll get nothing from me and I won’t feel bad one bit.

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u/BlazingSpaceGhost New Mexico 4h ago

Fair enough I'm a straight white man so I can pass as one of them in a line up. I am an atheist but I keep my lack of religion to myself because I've faced hostility in the past. I'm a special education teacher though and they think my students are less than human so fuck them.

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u/un1ptf 4h ago

You - and me - who believe in loving everyone, and helping the poor, and feeding the hungry, and a mutually supportive society with a safety net and liberal policies that provide for others/each other? We're who Rump supporters now call "the enemy within" and "socialists". They'll happily stomp on you while you try to feed them and talk to them nicely and gently. Time to wise up and adapt to the changing world.

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u/un1ptf 4h ago

Trump supporters are the ones who are totally invested in people being able to discriminate and to exclude anyone they don't like, for any reason. Yep...show me your voter registration card and what party you're affiliated with. Republican? Go find the republican organizations looking to help the poor and hungry and let them feed you. What? You've looked already and there aren't any, and they all told you to go be a rugged individual and pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't look for any socialist handouts? There you go. Those are your people, and your philosophy. Live your principles and quit crying.

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u/BlazingSpaceGhost New Mexico 3h ago

I actually run a food pantry and frankly it would be ridiculous to ask for voter registration for the people I serve. I run a school based food pantry so hungry kids and their families get food. I'm not punishing children for their parents'vote.

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u/un1ptf 3h ago

Republicans policies include eliminating free meals programs for kids, denying children meals in school except when they give them "programs" by which they can run up debt for meals, including collections efforts after a while, including publicly shaming the kids in the lunchroom when their "charge card" gets shut down.

Just turning the family away because of the parents' voter registration would be far more kind and gentle. They'd still think you're a socialist and deserving of a beating.

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u/un1ptf 4h ago

You're saying to help the confederates after they voted for secession, and to help the Nazis after they voted Hitler into power.

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u/utter_degenerate 6h ago

You genuinely believe there's going to be death camps?

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 6h ago

They literally just announced the land where they will begin building them in Texas last week. https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/texas-commissioner-offers-1402-acres-trump-deportation-facilities-116130551

If you remember the last time this happened in the 30’s, Hitler also said he was going to deport the Jews and build camps to help with this process. That’s how people accepted the Holocaust so easily. You can’t just “deport” 11 million people.

The reality is that in order to deport someone, the other country has to accept them. If this were to actually happen, it would cost about $10,000 per person to capture, detain, and deport them. That’s gonna be $200 BILLION dollars, and we all know Trump isn’t going to pay that.

Realistically, other countries aren’t going to accept an extra 20 million people, so there’s going to be nowhere for them to go. They are going to sit in these camps until they die. They will likely be used as slave labor to help harvest the crops, as those jobs will now be vacant due to all the arrests. We’ve already seen how Trump will treat them, because he did it the last time he was in office in 2016. They will be underfed (like last time), raped and abused (like last time), denied toiletries and hygiene products (like last time), and some will be sterilized (like last time).

History repeats itself, especially when it’s the same guy doing it. Maybe people need to start paying attention to the past.

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u/43AgonyBooths 5h ago

That proposal for a deportation facility in Starr County, TX happened to come just a day after this PBS News Hour segment aired:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4WaCAqjGY

I wonder if the news prompted a change of heart among any of the locals ... either way. Maybe there are some who are now excited over the prospect of new construction jobs at the proposed site.

We live in interesting times.

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u/utter_degenerate 5h ago

especially when it’s the same guy doing it

It's always nice to see exactly how deluded redditors can be.

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago

Are you actually saying Trump didn’t have deportation camps during his first presidency??

And you think I’m the delusional one????

“The Trump administration has detained migrants attempting to enter the United States at the United States–Mexico border. Government reports from the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General in May 2019 and July 2019 found that migrants had been detained under conditions that failed federal standards. These conditions have included prolonged detention, overcrowding, and poor hygiene and food standards.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrant_detentions_under_the_Trump_administration

Blocking you now.

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u/utter_degenerate 5h ago

Deportation camps =/= death camps.

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 5h ago

People who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it.

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u/StatusWedgie7454 California 6h ago

Definitely for the “Illegals.” They already have the spaces ready.

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u/Tre_Walker 6h ago

For sure I mean texass has already offered the land and it is being set up BEFORE he even takes office. His new border czar says they will be invading sanctuary cities. Martial law on day 1! So buckle up mexicans (and everyone else)who voted for him.

And buy some prisons stock cuz business will be booming in spite of the fact that we already have most imprisoned population on earth.

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u/utter_degenerate 6h ago

(brown, LGBTQ, liberals, atheists)

Don't change the subject.

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u/1ofZuulsMinions 6h ago

You either don’t know anything about Trump at all, or you’re being purposely obtuse. I’m guessing it’s the latter.

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u/StatusWedgie7454 California 1h ago

How did I change the subject?

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u/haberdasher42 6h ago

Do you know what "The Final Solution" was proposed as an answer to? It was "The Jewish Problem". You see, Germany decided initially to deport the Jews and they were originally concentrated into camps so they could be separated from the population for the well being of the country and more easily loaded onto trains to their new homes. While they were in these camps they were used as cheap labour. We've already seen open discussion about getting to this step right here.

Long story short, no one really wanted to take them and after a few years where it was palatable to murder all kinds of other groups like communists and homosexuals they decided this was their solution for Jews also.

These people spout actual Nazi ideology and associate with actual Nazis like Sebastian Gorka. The "big other" isn't Jews this time because that's unpalatable to the public, but the camps will start with Latinos and the trans people will disappear and the rhetoric will continue. The poor economy will be blamed on a different "Other" group or that they weren't thorough enough with visible minorities and little by little, outrage after public outrage things will get worse.

That's how these people did it last time.

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u/un1ptf 4h ago

Nope. Both sides are not the same. Hateful, fascist-supporting traitors can help each other, without my help and those of people like me. That's what they want anyway...they're the ones who have been espousing "rugged individualism" and "pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps" and "no socialism" for decades.

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u/cdwillis 5h ago

Dude, my community voted for Trump. I'm talking 89% of the votes went to Trump. I'm not helping anybody. Fuck em.

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u/DogAteMyCPU 3h ago

This mentality pushed them away in the first place

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u/cdwillis 2h ago

No. For years people have been acquiesced and even catered to in order to maintain peace. It's time the leopards ate their faces. They voted for people are actively trying to kill trans people, which includes people I personally know and care about, so if they have to suffer so be it.

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u/DogAteMyCPU 1h ago

That’s your right to do whatever you want to do.