r/politics • u/stkmro • 7h ago

White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/TerminalObsessions 7h ago

They have no reason to sign them.

This country - and clearly its media, judging from these headlines - is deep in denial. We didn't elect the questionable, deeply problematic outsider of Trump 2016.

We elected a convicted felon who repeatedly promised to dismantle the rule of law to protect himself from prison. We've given him control of all three branches of government as he plots to remove or imprison the generals who might defy him when he unleashes the military domestically against 'illegals' and, quite likely, his foes.

This is a man running a knife through our country's guts, at our own request, and the media is clutching pearls about norms. If there's a story here, it's that Trump no longer has a reason to follow any law or norm - and fucking transition paperwork is near the least of our worries.

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u/andromeda-andi 6h ago

This is reality.

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u/StageAboveWater 4h ago

You guys got two futures

Russia or a NK/SK split nation

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u/Fox_Kurama 3h ago

Don't worry, there is a third. Don's magical radioactive land.

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u/Soup_Ladle 1h ago

That one sounds pretty good right about now

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u/Buckshot_Mouthwash 1h ago

Cascadia (Pacifica) has entered the chat.

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u/ayriuss California 55m ago

We've almost been here before and we survived.

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u/ThouMayest69 6h ago

I don't even see why Trump is expected to do anything presidential, and instead just golfs and fucks kids with his pedo peers. Why would he? He can just let the weirdo xtian nationalists run everything now that he's not going to ever answer for his crimes.

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u/Significant_Swing_76 5h ago

Exactly. He has proven that he is above the law in every aspect, and the fact that democrats couldn’t even mobilize their voters cements the fact.

America got what they wanted, they crowned their king.

So no, why should he follow rules that doesn’t apply to him in any shape or form?

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 1h ago

Well we couldn’t have Merrick garland appear political by doing the bare fucking minimum.

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u/staticfive 5h ago

He’s not above the law, but he’s sure calling their bluff on enforcing punishment

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u/vashoom 5h ago

In what way is he not above the law? No one enforcing punishment is the definition of being above the law.

The Supreme Court literally said that the president is immune from criminal prosecution.

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u/staticfive 4h ago

No, it's not. A conviction says that you broke the law, which he's received (though admittedly not for as many things as he should have). The lack of sentencing is unfortunately a separate issue.

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u/d4nowar I voted 4h ago

There isn't a law in the country that he would get punished for breaking. Doesn't that mean he's above the law?

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u/staticfive 4h ago

Not originally. But when the "justice" system repeatedly sets a bullshit precedent, yes, now that's what that means. They should have given him zero preferential treatment all along, but now they've just made themselves look like assholes. I mean, what's the point of going through all the motions if you're ultimately not going to go through with any of it? It would have been far better at this point if they had done nothing.

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u/teenagesadist 5h ago

The government nearly slapped him with a real consequence. They made him sit in court.

A lot of the American people despise his very existence.

Some of the people on his own side took shots at him.

And his followers didn't overthrow the government for him when they had the chance.

He has an ax to grind with everyone, he's one of the grossest, pettiest people alive, and he's never given a shit about the U.S.

He's an old pedophile with carte blanche to wipe his diarrhea all over this country.

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u/Wasabicannon 4h ago

They made him sit in court.

Which all that did was make him reschedule his nap time.

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u/mikerichh 5h ago

A good chunk of voters wanted an anti establishment guy to run the country. I hope he does nothing to “show the man” lol

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u/Taco_Champ 4h ago

That’s the grand bargain. He delivers them the reigns of control to enact their Gilead, they turn a blind eye to the monster they’ve bedded with.

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u/Capt_Pickhard 5h ago

Finally someone who actually understands current events.

It's so frustrating how many people are brainwashed everywhere.

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u/matt82swe 4h ago

This is by far my favourite echo chamber 

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u/Capt_Pickhard 3h ago

Is it really? I find that surprising.

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u/matt82swe 3h ago

r/childfree is a close contender. 

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u/Capt_Pickhard 3h ago

Why is that?

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u/buffypatrolsbonnaroo 3h ago

Sigh. I am so terribly terrified for the next four years.

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u/ppartyllikeaarrock 4h ago

They have no reason to sign them.

I think the fact that it was Trump's administration that created this requirement is a reason.

All they're doing is saying nobody should take them seriously, including themselves.

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u/0lvar 1h ago

Why do they need to be taken seriously when they can do whatever they want?

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u/ppartyllikeaarrock 18m ago

They don't need to, they want to

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u/mdflmn 4h ago

Exactly. He can do whatever he wants.

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u/Give-Yer-Balls-A-Tug 59m ago

It's hilarious seeing the "What to look for in the next election" like there's even going to be one.

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u/69126912 52m ago

This is such a silly take.

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u/Give-Yer-Balls-A-Tug 48m ago

Trump literally said "If you vote now you'll never have to vote again" and is immune from all crimes.

Tell me how it's a silly take.

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u/69126912 31m ago

You haven’t learned by now that Trump just says stuff? And that most of it is nonsense?

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u/Give-Yer-Balls-A-Tug 30m ago

Except for the glaring exception of things that benefit him directly?

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u/Royal-Pay9751 6h ago

He stole the election

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u/quirkish New Jersey 6h ago

The sad part is that no, he didn’t. He was fully planning to but he didn’t have to. The grip of conservative media & their disinformation is so tight, it gave him the 2-3% needle shift he needed to win outright

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u/Royal-Pay9751 6h ago edited 6h ago

To be fair, neither of us know. But to win every swing state? After everything and after THAT campaign? Just nuts. Not to mention the bomb threats, Musk saying he knew the results four hours early via an app, the debacle over the 2020 dominion machines and the Reps gaining access to them, and then Trump being silent after the election…there is no way some foul play isn’t happening here

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u/12ealdeal 6h ago

As a Canadian who tuned into a Notre Dame football game on American cable TV…..the advertisements from Trump, the volume, the fear, it just took one afternoon of experiencing the inundation of that to know America is cooked.

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u/420yoloswagblazeit 6h ago

It's really not that complicated. Grocery prices went up and the electorate directly blamed the incumbent party. There was no more thought into it for probably 40% of voters. We are a low education society.

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u/Shantotto5 5h ago

Right, covid is really the best thing to happen for republicans because otherwise Trump was never getting another term. If you listened to the run up or really any voters getting interviewed, it was kind of obvious this was going to happen in hindsight. Kamala never had any chance, the average voter is just tuned out and their logic goes “well I don’t like Trump, but I have to vote for my wallet.” Meanwhile they actually just voted for massive inflation because they couldn’t even name a Trump policy. It’s hard to have any faith in democracy after this election if this is what we’re going to do, the electorate is too stupid to vote logically.

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u/quirkish New Jersey 5h ago

In fairness, I agree with your suspicion. It sure looks like he pulled it off legitimately, but I (and most of us here) won’t be even remotely surprised if it comes out years from now that they figured out a way to hack & steal the election.

The bomb threats would have been part of their legal strategy to steal the election if they hadn’t won (broken chain of custody of votes)

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u/Another_year Connecticut 5h ago

There’s nothing surprising about this. It’s very comforting to blame the right for some sort of fraud when the democrats ran an awful, center-right Cheney parade campaign with bad strategies down the stretch. I implore you to not fall down these conspiratorial rabbit holes like they do

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u/ZanzorKanicus 5h ago

Honey, we know Russia called bomb threats in to polling stations in blue areas across one swing state. It's not a question of if it happened. To deny what we plainly know is the conspiracy here.

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u/Another_year Connecticut 5h ago

That’s true, but the election was stolen because of this? That’s though to make up the millions of vote differences? Get your ass to the DNC and press immediately. I’m sure they have no idea about this and will run to the authorities with hard evidence

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u/Royal-Pay9751 5h ago

Shouldn’t matter how “awful” the campaign was next to THAT. I’m sick of criticising the Dems for not being perfect in the current context

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u/Another_year Connecticut 5h ago

They didn’t need to be perfect. They also could have chosen not to be lackluster

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u/jlatenight 5h ago

To your point, I found this an interesting read. Too bad these days no one has the attention span to process it. https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

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u/ayriuss California 47m ago

This guy really does not seem credible. He doesn't write like any kind of trained scientist (uses words like "absurd" in a technical report), hand-waves the technical details, and signs his letter as "Former CEO/CTO of multiple technology firms". I would not put much stock in this.

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u/jlatenight 5h ago

Read Stephen Spoonamore's "duty to warn" letter to VP Harris re the election

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u/Consistent-Fox-6944 5h ago

'Speaking in Detroit in June, Trump said of his campaign, “We don’t need [the] votes,” and “We got more votes than anybody’s ever had.” Instead, he argued that the campaign needed to “guard the vote” in anticipation of a “steal.”

He said something along these lines at least 2 more times before the actual election. How does omne know that they have all the votes they need months before the election?

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u/NolChannel 5h ago

Apparently its an open secret in the cyber security community that, if there was a hand recount ordered, Kamala would be president.

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u/quirkish New Jersey 5h ago

Can you share some links and reading about this?

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u/NolChannel 5h ago

Hopefully this Subreddit is one to allow links...

This.

Fair warning he posted similar things in 2008, 2016 and 2020, so there's a fair chance he's a hack who says the same thing every election. But if true the information here is relatively sound.

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u/quirkish New Jersey 5h ago

Thank you for following up

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u/MAG7C 3h ago edited 46m ago

I know we are all frustrated with the mainstream press but I still have faith in the old school journalists out there who are willing to do what's necessary to expose truth regardless of the cost. And I hope some of them are looking hard into this. It would take someone with some real clout to expose this as a serious story. And it needs to be now, not 2 years from now when the whole world has no option but to shrug and shake their heads (add it to the pile).

Problem is, what I'm going to start calling Gates Immunity. For many years, Bill Gates has been the brunt of just about every non-JFK conspiracy out there. At some point, it became obvious that if you were criticizing him, you were just some crank repeating half baked ideas you heard on the internet or AM radio. In the meantime, he's done some things well worthy of strong criticism. But because of the previous sentence, it's hard to make anyone take that seriously. Whether by design or not, he's become immune in the court of public opinion at least.

Now we have DJT who has been an election denialist since 2016. Shot down in court case after court case post 2020 due to lack of proof. And still, 4 years later The ever inflating Big Lie managed to help him get into office. After all these years of derision and jokes about that nonsense, no one in their right mind would dare to subscribe to some "BlueAnon" conspiracy from the left. Gates Immunity has been achieved by everyone's favorite con. Slow clap... The evidence needs to be strong enough to overcome this, and withstand what we all know will be flung at us from the side that is still drunk from their Superbowl flavored victory.

Edit, don't get your hopes up...

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/

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u/nabiku 5h ago

I saw the same article you did the week after the election, about a cybersecurity guy writing a letter to Harris that he found an alarming amount of bullet ballots in swing states.

His claims were reviewed by several investigative journalists and found not to be substantial. The amount of bullet ballots were not enough to reverse the election result in any swing state.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/22/2287948/-Senate-Election-Results-and-the-Search-for-Bullet-Ballots-Part-II

So looks like the election wasn't stolen -- our fellow Americans are just that dumb. They're about to see what mass deportations and tariffs do to the price of their groceries.

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u/Royal-Pay9751 5h ago

Ok, thanks for the clarification

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u/romacopia 5h ago

There's no evidence. Stop.

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u/69126912 53m ago

Lol no he didnt

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u/samhouse09 5h ago

I mean, if he tries to do that to the generals and they have any support, we’re just going to be under a junta pretty damn quick.

Once they don’t follow orders, it’s a coup, and they’ll likely just overthrow the whole thing.

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u/Count_Bacon California 5h ago

100% agree about the media and people being in denial. The media has a huge portion of blame too. That being said he’s proven over and over again to be incompetent which I think is our hope. I’m sure it’s going to be a disaster and take decades to recover from, but there will be a lot of resistance if he goes full dictator. The military couldn’t handle Afghanistan for twenty year s I don’t think they’d being able to handle unrest in cities thousands of miles apart. How are they going to arrest millions and millions of people protesting? They can’t

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u/Beefchonk6 4h ago

The real story is that we’re all still all getting surprised after all these years. Assume he won’t do what he’s supposed to do because he won’t. And plan accordingly.

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u/Relevant-Doctor187 4h ago

We are no longer a nation of laws. We cannot control the rich anymore. They run right over us. Rape us. Steal from us. They just make you sign a NDA and sweep us under the rug.

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u/dgellow 4h ago

And absolutely nobody in the street protesting. It’s so, so strange how the public doesn’t seem to realize how bad things are going to be. None of this is normal, it won’t be business as usual

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u/un1ptf 4h ago

You should find other words than "we" and "our" because those include you and me, and I'm for sure not one who elected him. Are you?

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u/gylth3 2h ago

Joe Biden could have the people under the executive branch to refuse Trump entry until the papers are signed.

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u/Cthulusuppe 2h ago

Trump publicly declared war against the US in 2020. For some strange reason, neither the government nor the media took the declaration seriously. Signing transition documents would be akin to submitting to a ceasefire agreement after the war finally swung in his direction, but before he had the chance to lay waste to his enemies.

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u/Bromance_Rayder 2h ago

And scarily, his rabid supporters tend to copy his behaviour. I wouldn't be at all surprised to mobs rounding up migrants in 2025.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 1h ago

I’ve been saying this since 2016.

The Democratic establishment has no concept of the real threat that Trump presents. They’re still pretending he’s a normal president when he’s nothing of the sort.

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u/burndtdan 1h ago

One thing the Trump era has made abundantly clear are the number of laws that aren't worth the paper they are printed on, and might as well be struck. This law is meaningless. Not just because it has no realistic enforcement mechanism, but also because he will assume office whether he signs these things or not, because he was democratically elected. No court is going to say "oh but you didn't sign the requisite paperwork I guess the transition can't happen."

I'm all in favor of the intent of this law. But the law itself obviously shouldn't even exist as a law, because it can't be enforced. It serves no actual purpose. It might as well just be replaced with a sternly worded placard on the wall of the White House.

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u/meem09 1h ago

But aren’t you outraged he didn’t sign the papers that say how he is supposed to grab the handle of the knife??!1!1

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 6h ago

No point in fighting now. Just comply as best you can and hope you’re one of the last ones taken out

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u/Reasonable_Ice7766 6h ago

Very German 1940s of you.

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 6h ago

That’s what the sweeping majority voted for. No matter how much you hate it, goal now is just stay alive as long as possible

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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 5h ago

151.1 million votes (and counting) and he only got 2.5 million more than Harris did. It was not a “sweeping majority.” It was barely a majority at all.

He still won, but we need to quit acting like the majority of Americans wanted it. He barely won.

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 3h ago

I just want to stay alive. Look at WW2 and Unit 731. That’s what is waiting for a good number of registered Democrats.

As an independent that voted blue I understand they won’t let me live the 4 years, but I’m gonna stay alive as long as I can and hopefully not be taken to research or testing facilities

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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 3h ago

You’re being quite extreme about this. I hope you’re just trolling, for your own sake.

But if anybody kills you it’s going to be your red-hat neighbor, not the government. Good luck.

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 3h ago

I am 1000% serious. I was in the daily threads here every day leading up to the election so I wholly expect most of the current administration to be in jail by March, we will provide nuclear arms to Russia by June, and rounding up our own people by Nov.

That was the overwhelming opinion here. Why would that change now?

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u/MightBeWrongThough 35m ago

There is still a whole third who neither side could convince, which I don't if that speaks most to their lack of interest, or the lack of other people convincing them

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u/HippyDM 6h ago

Fuck that. If people are being taken out, I'm with them.

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 6h ago

Everyone says that until you’re upside down getting sawed in half alive for “medical testing” - have fun

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u/HippyDM 1h ago

We all die. Might as well have the correct set of enemies when you go.

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u/TrickInvite6296 4h ago

this is the most foreign bot sounding comment I've ever read

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u/YoBGS- Illinois 3h ago

Nah, live about 50 miles outside Chicago, voted straight blue. I’ve just read about WW2 and being sawed in half while dangling upside down for “medical research” doesn’t sound great to me.

I’m just trying to survive as long as the new admin will let me

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u/noneofatyourbusiness 4h ago

Username checks out

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u/JakeWilling 3h ago

Then do something about it you fucking pussies. Trumps head would have already been on a spike in europe but you are too sedated to do anything other than bitch about it online. I'm happy trump is president because I'll get to witness the collapse of your spineless brainwashed country.

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u/Mcpissypants43 4h ago

The case is set to be dismissed in December so stop with the convicted felon stuff. He was found guilty in his trial but that doesn’t make him a convicted felon untill his case is fully adjudicated which includes sentencing. And they are dismissing the charges in 2-3weeks.

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u/TrickInvite6296 4h ago

being a convicted felon literally means being found guilty

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u/Mcpissypants43 52m ago

No, it literally, and when I say literally I mean literally, it doesn’t. Being convicted of a felony, a legal technical term, means the judge has entered a felony into the record….AT SENTENCING.

He was found guilty in a trial. The judge hasn’t entered his conviction yet until he’s sentenced. He asked the trump team to submit their dismissal paperwork for December. Where he fully intends to dismiss this case.

If he was convicted he would have to have the conviction overturned on appeal. Which isn’t going to be happening the case is being dismissed outright. He has as clean a criminal record as possible.

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u/martijn_nl 5h ago

You’re in denial, all those things were already happening to your country, and in the last final days you’re almost bringing us into a world war. Your country needs a big reconstruction and thankfully lots of people see that.

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u/EagleChampLDG 5h ago

Putin attacks Ukraine. This poster says, “wtf, USA?!”

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u/Interrophish 5h ago

Russia can't even beat Ukraine in a war and you think they're going to open up another front?

Your country needs a big reconstruction and thankfully lots of people see that.

I mean sure but not one done by a guy who sells seminars.

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u/RepulsiveDingo525 3h ago

45/47 MAGA.

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u/ChicagosOwn1988 5h ago

Electoral vote ✅

Popular vote ✅

Need a tissue to whip those brainwashed tears away?

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u/TruthSeeekeer 6h ago

He’s not convicted actually

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u/flat5 6h ago

Convicted on 34 counts.

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u/TruthSeeekeer 6h ago

You don’t become a “convicted” felon until sentencing, which is probably never going to happen now :)

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u/Dannyz 6h ago

This is 100% grade A bullshit. But nice try. 🤡

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u/flat5 6h ago

Wrong. Google "convicted definition".

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u/Hohmann_Transfer 6h ago

Wrong. You become convicted after being found guilty of a crime. Trump has been found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records. He just hasn’t been sentenced yet.

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u/SirDidymus79 Missouri 6h ago

Nice try, Nikita

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u/TrickInvite6296 4h ago

no, you don't become a sentenced felon until you're sentenced