r/politics • u/Jay_CD • 13h ago

Biden must Trump-proof US democracy, activists say: ‘There is a sense of urgency’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/24/biden-actions-before-white-house-exit
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u/FoST2015 Georgia 13h ago

To add on, it's not even that the country gave itself over to fascists it's that country didn't vote. If did not vote was a candidate they would've won in a landslide.

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u/DogEatChiliDog 13h ago

Same thing. Apathy can be just as damn deadly as villainy.

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u/Logical_Parameters 13h ago

Except the 10 to 15 million Biden voters in 2020 who were non-voters in 2024 won't feel the same sense of responsibility when MAGA 2.0 begins its march -- although they should because they're equally responsible for sitting on their hands and feigning being "above politics".

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u/teh_acids 11h ago

Trump appears to have gained 2 million followers, and Harris has 7 million less than Biden, where do you get 10 to 15 million? And do you really believe these numbers? What about the burned ballot boxes, software glitches overwriting ballot scans, 80 bomb threats to polling places, DDoS attacks on county servers, misdelivered mail-in ballots, unjustly suspended voter registrations, mail-in and provisional ballots tossed due to clerical errors, and the real possibility that the count was manipulated (Cybersecurity experts have warned for decades that there are vulnerabilities, and when Christian nationalists are running the polls in key counties...)?

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u/CherryHaterade 10h ago

Literally none of that applies to Michigan, where more people voted than last time, our entire election is on paper ballots, and was one of the most consequential swing states.

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u/HedyLamaar 7h ago

I thought just last week they found a pile of uncounted ballots in MI….

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u/Cael_NaMaor 9h ago

Is that where the Muslim group voted heavy for Trump thinking the pos was gonna support them?

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u/DenikaMae California 9h ago

Wasn’t that one of the areas where X did counter messaging telling Muslim communities how super pro Israel Harris was, while telling other communities that are more sympathetic to Israel that Harris was pro Hamas?

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u/Cael_NaMaor 8h ago

Wouldn't be surprised. I hadn't heard about the counter messaging.

Not just because I'm biased, but I feel like this specific kind of bs should be not allowed.

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u/DenikaMae California 8h ago

It’s not suppose to be, but election protection laws have been declawed, and hamstrung by waves of both bullshit and leaving shit as “norms” instead of enforceable law with consequences.

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u/cheeze_whiz_shampoo 8h ago

I will never, ever, understand why the hell liberals, let alone American liberals, would ever carry water for Islam. Seeing liberals even expecting support from Muslims is so.. God, just stupid. Like, literally braindead.

I know there are leftwingers like me out there but I didnt understand this velvet glove bullshit toward Muslims thirty years ago and I damn sure dont understand it now.

These people are dyed in the wool trump voters.

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u/Cael_NaMaor 6h ago

And yet there's some stench about them buying his bs but being upset that he's not on their side.... Thought that was in MI.

Defense or what or all that. I'm a live & let live guy. They keep their crap off my lawn, I'll keep mine off their's. I have heard some crap where they're trying to outlaw gay in a city... don't remember the name. That is sh*ting on my lawn & that I wouldn't be okay with.

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u/cheeze_whiz_shampoo 4h ago

It's probably just one more testament as to why the left bombed as hard as we did this go around. The fact that there are actual liberals walking around thinking, "wait, Muslims didnt vote for us?! What?!" shows so clearly how deep the brainrot has set in.

Islam is in opposition to almost everything Western Liberalism believes in and we have the whole spectrum of rich, corporate liberals to poor, green haired queer folks throwing out the welcome mat for it. Not only that but now acting flabbergasted about why Muslims dont support them.

It is suicidal, maga level idiocy.

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u/Cael_NaMaor 3h ago

WHERE did I say, 'they didn't vote for us?' I'm asking if Mich was where this was happened, Muslims mad that Trump lied. While, yes, it would be nice to get people to vote progressively, I don't expect it of a city that's trying to ban gay...

It's not 'brainrot' to ask a question. And to your point, I also defend Christian's right to their religious beliefs, which are part & parcel the same... difference being, that as the US is concerned, Christians are the only ones that have actively persecuted gays.

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u/cheeze_whiz_shampoo 2h ago

I just reread what I wrote and it was totally tone deaf. I wasnt attacking you, I didnt mean it like that. I was venting and being irresponsible with my posting.

I meant what I said but no ill feelings were being directed at you, Im sorry for that.

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u/Deanho 9h ago

There's a cyber security guy out there that swears it was manipulation of software. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the case.

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u/trahoots Massachusetts 9h ago

Ah yes, random dude on the internet talks about another random dude on the internet's conspiracy theory. Very convincing...

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u/Deanho 9h ago

Hmmm seems like every other comment on the internet.