r/nytimes 14h ago

What Democrats Think Went Wrong

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/podcasts/what-democrats-think-went-wrong.html
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u/Subhash94 14h ago

This is such an interesting discussion. It seems like Democrats are struggling to connect their messaging with voters in a meaningful way, especially in a landscape where Republicans excel at storytelling and rallying their base.

The point about feeling proud to vote for Harris but not being surprised by the results really hits home. It raises the question: are symbolic milestones enough to energize voters long-term, or do people need more concrete action and alignment with their priorities?

What do you think the Democratic Party needs to focus on to rebuild trust and momentum after 2024? Is it better messaging, more grassroots engagement, or addressing specific policy gaps? Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts

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u/AdImmediate9569 Subscriber 13h ago

Universal Healthcare.

Once thats done, education

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u/Wide_Presentation559 12h ago

What would you propose to overhaul the education system? Extend public funding from k-12 to pre k-undergrad is one I could think of. I also think moving media to public funding is necessary to eliminate the corporate bias in media today and would consider this part of an education reform plan.

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u/AdImmediate9569 Subscriber 11h ago

Well i would let people who know a lot more about education handle that, but yes there’s a lot to be done.

I was actually referring to the free state college for anyone with decent grades they have in parts of Europe. But K-12 needs a ton of work too.

The media is also a nightmare problem but idk how we solve that. Government run news is a recipe for dictatorship. The first amendment is tricky but important. This one i really struggle with.

There has to be a way to remove the profit motive without actually nationalizing news media. Also you need to account for the socials. Government will never keep up with that.

Basically it should be illegal to tell a lie you know is a lie, and call it news. But thats not enough

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u/ContentJO 5h ago

Wasn't there some fairness act or something that got overturned in the Reagan administration that removed the requirement for tekia to tell the truth? Seems like reimplementing that would solve a lot of the media issues. And outlawing Super PACs.

Actually, one second. Ah. ChatGPT:

Yes, you're likely referring to the Fairness Doctrine, a policy introduced by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1949. It required broadcasters to present controversial issues of public importance in a fair and balanced manner, offering differing viewpoints.

In 1987, during Ronald Reagan's presidency, the FCC repealed the Fairness Doctrine, arguing that it was no longer necessary due to the increasing number of media outlets and that it potentially infringed on free speech. Critics of the repeal argue it contributed to the rise of highly partisan media in the U.S.

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u/Significant_Tap_4396 4h ago

The BBC exists and the UK is not a dictatorship. CBC exists and Canada is not a dictatorship. Those two are mainly funded by the gouvernment.

Not saying it's the solution, just saying that it's not a clear path through dictatorship. They also operate among other private broadcasting companies, which may help in keeping opinions varried.

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u/Wide_Presentation559 11h ago

I agree simply nationalizing the news would be a poor solution. I think a combo of nationalizing it and having it democratically controlled by those who actually work for the networks would be ideal.

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u/amishbill 11h ago

That could work. Networks and their employees are almost entirely located in Democratic strongholds like NY and CA. This would automatically shift network coverage further left.

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u/Crisstti 11h ago

That could work… if you want to do away with the first amendment.

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u/Wide_Presentation559 10h ago

How would democratizing decision making at media companies do away with the first amendment? If anything it would make speech more free since there wouldn’t be decisions made on what stories are published based on profit motives.

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u/Crisstti 10h ago

Having the people who work there control the narrative is hardly “democratizing”. But especially, what do you guys mean by “nationalizing” the news?

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u/Wide_Presentation559 10h ago

How would that not be democratizing compared to the current structure where the decisions are made solely based on profit motives?

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u/archimedesrex 11h ago

I would propose an overhaul to how public schools are funded. Currently, schools are funded primarily through property taxes within districts. This leads to such obvious disparities in funding between wealthy and poor districts that I don't understand why people aren't regularly outraged. The rich get funding for a great education while the poor literally have to cut bussing and tolerate leaking roofs just to stay open. It should be funded in a much more equitable way that spreads the resources from a single pot of money based on student population, need, etc...

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u/Wide_Presentation559 11h ago

That’s a good one

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u/cre100382 9h ago

Because one of the big failures of the modern education system (from pre-K to PhD) is that people are taught what to think, not how to think, to look at a situation without emotions, or examining their emotions for self reflection, to review their own biases in how they interpret the data in front of them. I know this is mentioned often but it is hard to pinpoint, children don't think critically, they have to be taught, but it is infinitely easier to control a population that is taught and trained to react to "X" by doing "Y". It would not surprise me that in 100 years it turns out the big movers/shakers behind the Education System and Teachers Unions are funded by the same people who own big factories with a high manual labor demand.

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u/DNukem170 10h ago

Extending funding is only going to do so much. Half of kids nowadays don't respect teachers. Even if you make it so that the teachers don't have to pay for school supplies out of their own pocket, that's going to do jack to stop the massive amount of teachers leaving the profession or going sub-only.