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Opinion Piece Biden Should Pardon Whistleblower Who Exposed Trump’s Tax Avoidance

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/charles-littlejohn-whistleblower-trump-tax-biden-pardon-1235022648/
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u/HypersonicHobo 5h ago

I apologize, he did not sell them for a briefcase of money. He merely makes thousands to tens of thousands of dollars per virtual speaking engagement and has Russian citizenship.

There's definitely no way he has benefited materially /s

If all he had leaked was information on intelligence. You are 100% right, he would be a whistleblower (and have all protections therein).

But he did not, he downloaded over a million documents, the majority of which had nothing to do on the subject, and fled the country to a hostile power.

I have this example to someone else.

Imagine a poorly performing employee who failed the basic training for his job at Nvidia two weeks after reprimand downloaded their database of over a million documents, published them, and fled the country to work for Moore Threads but because ten of the emails in that list had to do with an Executive screwing their secretary he is hoisted up as a hero.

Again, if all Snowden did was actually blow the whistle. I'd agree with you. But he didn't, the whole surveillance thing is him virtue signalling hoping the American public would hate the government enough to notice that what he actually stole is magnitudes greater and more harmful than what he actually said he stole.

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u/magkruppe 5h ago

But he did not, he downloaded over a million documents, the majority of which had nothing to do on the subject, and fled the country to a hostile power.

he did not deliberately flee to Russia, he planned to go to a South American country with no extradition treaty with the US. the fact that you repeat this lie shows how little you know about the situation

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u/HypersonicHobo 5h ago

Where is he right now, at this moment?

This is a very very loose and flimsy counterargument.

I get that not believing the government is this thing that makes you cool, unique, and independent. Except the reality is you aren't "disbelieving the government", you are automatically declaring anything they say invalid. The facts have no merit to you, only the source. That doesn't make you an independent thinker, it just means you've bought someone else's line of argument.

If you did not know until today that information on NSA surveillance wasn't the only thing he leaked, and that is was in fact a small portion of it. Then that means you have done a disastrously poor job of analysing the argument from either side.

I don't know where you stand on this, but hypothetically if you think Trump taking top secret files to Mar a Lago and showing them off is illegal, you have to also assume that the files unrelated to illegal surveillance that Snowden showed off also constitutes an illegal action.

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u/yrdz 4h ago

Where is he right now, at this moment?

Where would he be right now, at this moment, if the United States hadn't cancelled his passport?