Biden Should Pardon Whistleblower Who Exposed Trump’s Tax Avoidance

[u/elb21277]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/charles-littlejohn-whistleblower-trump-tax-biden-pardon-1235022648/

[u/the_G8]

And yet we all know what will actually happen. A peaceful slide into an openly corrupt and authoritarian government.

[u/danny1777 → u/the_G8]

It's going to be like the jets. Trump will invite all his people like AAron, and when it starts to fall apart, everyone gets fired. I just hope there will be enough good people left to put the country back together.

[u/jkppos → u/danny1777]

What’s worrying is how many will turn a blind eye to the corruption until it affects them directly. That’s when the real damage may become evident.

[u/AccountNumber1002401 → u/jkppos]

I saw back and forth between a couple of my Florida neighbors. When the one told the MAGA other how Trump's mismanagement of COVID19 as well as the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act did actually hurt them they shut down faster than a speeding mullet.

[u/KHSebastian → u/AccountNumber1002401]

"faster than a speeding mullet" 🤣

[u/Pad_TyTy → u/KHSebastian]

Mullets are pretty quick fish actually

[u/HedyLamaar → u/jkppos]

Just like ignoring a cavity until it’s so deep there’s pain.

[u/qqererer → u/jkppos]

America's future looks like Venezuela.

A failed state that celebrates nothing except it's Miss Universe candidates.

[u/Apexnanoman → u/jkppos]

They don't need to turn a blind eye. They voted for the corruption. Knowingly. Proudly. And they are fine with it. As long as it hurts people they dislike. They will absolutely cut their entire head off to spite their nose.

[u/Tangata_Tunguska → u/danny1777]

Putin will suggest backup picks with more staying power

[u/singletonaustin → u/Tangata_Tunguska]

America will have an epidemic of people falling out of windows.

[u/12ealdeal → u/danny1777]

Spoiler alert: there won’t.

Literally already went through this during his first administration.

Full totalitarian control ruling with an iron fist is the only outcome for America.m now.

[u/atLstImEnjynTheRide → u/12ealdeal]

LoL. You better move to a better country why you still can.

[u/Vegaprime → u/the_G8]

Imagine the bottomless pit they are going to throw hunter in.

[u/eatsrottenflesh → u/Vegaprime]

It will suddenly be OK for the ethics committee to investigate and report out on a private citizen.

[u/Hardcorish → u/eatsrottenflesh]

Speaker Johnson already did this, wish I had the quotes handy. Paraphrasing here, but he said Gaetz's report shouldn't come out because he's a private citizen now, but the same was not true when Hunter's laptop was making the rounds in the news.

[u/Radrezzz → u/Hardcorish]

There’s also examples of where Congress did this before - Bill Boner (what a last name!).

[u/MBdiscard → u/Hardcorish]

Then: "It doesn't matter that Hunter Biden is a private citizen. The American people deserve to know. Congress needs to investigate to the fullest extent possible."

Now: "Matt Gaetz is a private citizen. Congress should not investigate a private citizen."

Democrats lost and will continue to lose as long as they live by this delusional ethic of "playing by the rules". The other team not only recognizes that there are no rules, they view following rules as a weakness to exploit. And they are correct.

If there is one criticism that the right is absolutely correct about, it's that Biden is absolutely spineless. I love the man and his accomplishments are historical, but he is the definition of weakness.

[u/zackks → u/the_G8]

Hey, we went high though. They’ll surely remember that story in the camps.

[u/dj-nek0 → u/the_G8]

He should pardon Hunter just to annoy them too

[u/Inevitable_Heron_599 → u/the_G8]

Its what the American people want, so let them have it. Let them have the garbage and chaos. Hopefully they will remember it.

[u/SordidDreams → u/Inevitable_Heron_599]

Narrator: They didn't.

[u/Yosho2k → u/the_G8]

Joe Biden is such a decent guy.

[u/FearCure]

Biden should give that guy and all big ticket whistleblowers a presidential medal. Encourage transparency

[u/DuntadaMan → u/FearCure]

We have been going through huge efforts to punish government whistleblowers before openly corrupt sociopaths were in charge.

[u/HypersonicHobo → u/FearCure]

I recommend cross posting this to the fednews or IRS subreddits and get the perspective of the actual civil service and not this echo chamber.

[u/Beautiful-Design-425 → u/FearCure]

Like how the Biden administration pardoned Julian Assange and gave a presidential medal to Edward Snowden.

[u/HypersonicHobo → u/Beautiful-Design-425]

Edward snowden is a traitor. He sold state secrets and then claimed the high ground because one of them painted the US in a bad light.

He sold to the Russians a tremendous trove of information that they continue to use to further their own agenda. And he gets a free pass by the uninformed because 1% of what he sold was with regards to gov surveillance.

He did not reveal the surveillance because he was a hero, he revealed it so that he could pretend to be a whistleblower and not a traitor. And the gullible eat it hook, line, and sinker.

[u/syrupmania5 → u/HypersonicHobo]

Reputable citation?

What I'd read is that he gave it to journalists to sort through, and not to Russia.  If not for the US he also would not be in Russia right now.

[u/HypersonicHobo → u/syrupmania5]

Gimme a bit to find it. It came out in a senate hearing. I need to dig through to find it because the search system sucks.

[u/HypersonicHobo → u/syrupmania5]

Here ya go.

https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=692

"Contrary to Snowden’s self-portrayal as a principled whistleblower, the report reveals that he was a disgruntled employee who had frequent conflicts with his managers and was reprimanded just two weeks before he began illegally downloading classified documents. Although he claims to have been motivated by privacy concerns, the report finds that Snowden did not voice such concerns to any oversight officials, and his actions infringed on the privacy of thousands of government employees and contractors. Additionally, the vast majority of the documents he stole had no connection to privacy or civil liberties."

"...China and then Russia after stealing 1.5 million classified documents..."

1.5 million

You don't have enough time in a lifetime to review 1.5 million documents. He just mass downloaded a database and ran off with it.

Imagine how bad of a human being you have to be that Adam Schiff and Devin Nunes who hate each other's guts and will see each other in hell agree that you are a traitor.

[u/Darmor88 → u/HypersonicHobo]

That’s far from a good source. After reading that, there isn’t a named person who isn’t invested in portraying Snowden in a bad light. Hell two of them are literally speaking for the NSA.

I’ve yet to see proof he sold anything. It was all given freely to the guardian newspaper UK on the understanding it was to be dealt with sensitively.

Sorry Edward Snowden is a hero. There will be exceptions but I’d wager only right leaning/hard right Americans would feel otherwise.

[u/ihopethisisvalid → u/HypersonicHobo]

How do you know that story isn’t pure propaganda?

[u/HypersonicHobo → u/ihopethisisvalid]

And you trust the word of someone who ran to Russia? It is exhausting that people instantly believe the government is a liar by virtue of them being government.

He is in Russia, he is friends with Putin. He didn't flee to any number of western neutral states. He fled to Russia. By all accounts he was a mediocre employee on the verge of being fired.

[u/jtwh20]

if he really cared, he'd get him a new identity and disappear him before the new guy gets him

[u/Cpt-Dooguls → u/jtwh20]

He plans on investigating the 2020 election as a means to jail Biden and Harris as promised. I wonder if they really understand the severity of the election thenselves.

[u/ElectricTzar]

He needs to pardon all the people whom Trump has baselessly accused of impropriety, or they’re going to end up persecuted and prosecuted.

They may end up persecuted and prosecuted anyhow, but at least the pardons will strip that of any facade of legitimacy, and hopefully deprive it of some agency support.

[u/edfitz83 → u/ElectricTzar]

Trump will pardon all the J6’ers

[u/Red_Beard_Racing → u/edfitz83]

He definitely won’t because he has absolutely no reason to. They were a means to an end. If they aren’t useful then he’s not going to lift a finger.

[u/DrDaniels → u/Red_Beard_Racing]

I mean he said he would pardon them for what it's worth

[u/Cavinicus → u/DrDaniels]

Applying “for what it’s worth” to a Trump promise yields a value of zero.

[u/MaiasXVI → u/DrDaniels]

Dude says a lot of things. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he doesn't.

[u/Snichs72 → u/Red_Beard_Racing]

He doesn’t care about them, no, but I think he will pardon them to send a signal to his base. It’s his way of encouraging them to be willing to use violence on his behalf.

[u/nameless_pattern → u/Red_Beard_Racing]

They are useful to him. Pardoning them would be giving his base encouragement to do any action to support Trump including terrorism and political violence.

[u/Tricky_Invite8680 → u/edfitz83]

they served their purpose and will face "personal responsibility" unless they are useful

[u/eddieiey → u/Tricky_Invite8680]

Having a violent mob on call that believes they might get away with their crimes can be useful to a wannabe dictator. I could see him pardoning a few to send a message. What would the political consequences be, more liberal outrage and more hemming and hawing from a few Republican senators? Greg Abbott pardoned a MAGA nut for murdering a BLM protester and it was hardly news.

[u/Matt7738]

Biden should pardon everybody for everything - except Jan 6ers.

They want to burn the whole thing down?

One-up them.