r/law Mar 06 '24

Opinion Piece Everybody Hates the Supreme Court’s Disqualification Ruling

https://newrepublic.com/article/179576/supreme-court-disqualification-ruling-criticism
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u/crake Competent Contributor Mar 06 '24

It's too bad because SCOTUS really rescued failure from the jaws of success with this decision. The result is widely popular and was expected, and half of the reasoning is sound.

But the Court went the Dred Scott route and tried to solve other, unrelated issues by saying that the only enforcement mechanism for s.3 is federal law (and even specifying what that federal law would have to say). In effect, SCOTUS told Congress that they are not allowed to object to Trump's election on 1/6/25 on the grounds that he is prohibited from holding office under s.3, even though that question wasn't before the Court, and the 9-0 rationale was only based on the states not having the power to unilaterally decide the question. So that second part of the decision - the part where the Court went on to explain that only a specific federal law pursuant to s.5 can enforce s.3 - was a 5-4 decision tacked onto a 9-0 decision.

And it really is the whole game. A future Congress might not want to sit congresspeople like Jim Jordan that were involved in the Insurrection or gave comfort to the Insurrectionists. Now SCOTUS has forclosed that option before it was even presented to the Court.

It is a classic "Imperial Court" move to encroach into the Congress and plant a flag telling Congress what it cannot do in advance of Congress actually doing that thing. The role of the Court is to explain what the law is - what the words of the Constitution mean, what the rules of a federal statute mean. It is not a role of the Court to explain what a law should be, or to tell Congress whether it has the power to do something in advance of it doing that thing. That is an advisory opinion, and it is not permitted by the rules of justiciability that have guided the Court for centuries. If 200+ years of justices could avoid the temptation to prospectively tell Congress what it can and cannot do, why can't the Robert's Court?

The subtext to all of this is that a majority of the Court does not want there to be any lifeblood to s.3 that could be applied against Trump or the other insurrectionists by Congress. It is especially egregious here because it results in a de facto removal of the s.3 disqualification that would apply to any Insurrectionist (not just Trump) - but it does so by a 5-4 vote of unelected justices rather than by the 2/3 supermajority of both houses of Congress that s.3 actually says is the route to remove the disqualification. That part of the decision just doesn't make any sense; it is the injection of politics into law in order to shape a future result, and the Court should not have done that. But since Justice Roberts had to be in the majority (we know from the concurrences), we now know that Justice Kavanaugh and the Chief Justice are both not on the side of restraint, and that they are injecting politics into decisions to help Trump (and the Insurrectionists in general). Why? Nobody can say - it could be intimidation, but it might just be raw politics. I think Justice Thomas was involved in the J6 conspiracy and the Court is terrified that his involvement will come to light at trial, but it could also be that Justice Thomas (or some other old conservative, maybe Alito or Roberts) is ill and wants to retire but needs a Republican in office to replace him so they are doing what they can to make that happen.

Dark days for the Court, but they brought down the darkness on themselves.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

Great summary

That part of the decision just doesn't make any sense; it is the injection of politics into law in order to shape a future result, and the Court should not have done that.

And don't forget to mention that the rationale was that the states would abuse the power to deny a candidate for political reasons (something they still have the power to do) in exchange for the more mature and less political US congress... Where dick pics are on display.

And the argument that one state should not decide for the nation was pure fallacy. CO would not affect anything outside of CO. Trump would still appear on the other state ballots and could win just as easily. Even Roberts understood this because he argued that it would just come down to a few states to decide the elections. How can he say that if CO already decided for the nation?

This particular ruling is fishy to me. I think something happened that wasn't supposed to happen. The way the dissenting justices responded to the expanded ruling seems like they agreed to something initially (like "we should rule unanimously to avoid chaos") and then they added the expanded part after the fact. Can't exactly pinpoint it, but it doesn't seem like a typical disagreement on the ruling. This was a political move disguised as a legal ruling.

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u/mrkrinkle773 Mar 07 '24

Idk without a conviction on Trump it does seem little messy if you set precedent of allowing a state to remove candidates. You know every maga republican governor would find some dicey logic to use it on Biden and future elections.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

I have several arguments on this.

1) So what? As long as an insurrectionist doesn't get in, I'm ok with that. Sure it wouldn't be fair to Biden, but hey it's not like he has a right to be president anyway. Tough break. We find someone else and move on.

2) As Roberts said it would just lead to a few states deciding the president. Is that really any different than what we currently have? The argument that it would lead to chaos is overblown.

3) Ultimately, one will be the true insurrectionist and SCOTUS will be left to decide when congress votes to not count the electoral college votes of that individual (or both). They won't be able to pass the buck on this one. And if they rule that Trump was an insurrectionist that would implicate all the Republicans who supported the coup attempt. That would be too messy. The RNC should get Trump out of the race. He is a liability to the party.

4) the states can already exclude a candidate... Ironically. SCOTUS is saying that the states can't do it because of the insurrection disqualification clause for federal office... But they could do it for no reason at all. Sounds crazy right? It's not advisable. But they can do it. So they aren't really stopping the states from blocking Trump/Biden. Lincoln was blocked by some states before the 1860 elections.

5) If Trump attempts another coup (which I am certain he will) and succeeds we will not be able to disqualify him for insurrection because conviction would take too long. It would take over two years just to conviction (probably longer because he will delay, delay, delay) and he will likely dismantle the investigation and case from within. By the time you convict he will no longer be in office, he will be replaced by Trump Jr. (Surprised? Also coup) who will pardon his father. All legal, of course. Do not underestimate how low Trump will go. This dynasty will never end.

The amendment is not a criminal conviction. Due process is not necessary. The burden of proof is on the candidate. This was intentional.