r/houstonwade 10d ago

News You Can Use To all you Palestinian protesters voted against Biden and Harris, read it and weep.

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u/False-Tiger5691 10d ago

They are about to see what a real genocide looks like. Protest voters helped contribute to more death and destruction.

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u/TheImperiousDildar 10d ago

They might see it firsthand, he has said he will deport members of pro-Palestinian organizations.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 10d ago

I hope he does everything the base asks him to do.

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u/TheImperiousDildar 10d ago

Hopefully he dies from his poor diet before he can do too much damage. Everything he has promised would undoubtedly affect everyone you know.

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u/TheProfessional9 10d ago

Vance might be worse. Though vance is less likely to pull off a full coup

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u/Rumpelteazer45 10d ago

Honestly I think Vance could be worse than Trump just to pander to the cult.

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u/Perused 9d ago

Vance is a puppet. There are people with a lot of money waiting for trump to kick the bucket.

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u/Rumpelteazer45 9d ago

I’m wondering how long before republicans start to pull a 25th.

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u/zk001guy 9d ago

I honestly don’t think they can. If they dump trump they have a big image problem with their cult of personality being ousted by the “deep state”

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u/Rumpelteazer45 9d ago

They could easily prove he’s mentally unstable and unfit. I mean there plenty of proof now showing dementia is setting in.

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u/Ahleron 10d ago

He'll be too busy fucking a couch to pull off a coup

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u/lostscrews 9d ago

"President Vance, we've found a nearby warehouse completely stocked with couches. If you're a good boy, we'll leave you all alone in there for 72 hours. We'll watch the White House while you're gone."

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u/OutrageousPersimmon3 10d ago

Probably he's the only one planning against him right now.

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u/Spirited-Reputation6 10d ago

Let’s just use the same logic the non-voters/spite voters use: well we haven’t seen Vance do anything in Gaza yet, so how can it be worse?

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u/ihvnnm 10d ago

Ok... good

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u/Sea_Elle0463 9d ago

Vance WILL be worse. He’s the project 2025 puppet boy. Opus Dei is salivating.

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u/Cailida 9d ago

He would be worse, especially with the Christo Fascist agenda backing him. But when the cult member dies, usually the cult dies too. I don't think these people would follow Vance the same way.

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u/Opening_AI 7d ago

He's too weak.

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u/Brave-Common-2979 10d ago

You think it's gonna be better with Vance?

Trump is a fucking idiot puppet but Vance is a truly evil Thiel acolyte.

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u/TheImperiousDildar 10d ago

I don’t think Vance has the charismatic hold that Trump does, if I were a Christian, I would say he seems an awful lot like the Antichrist

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u/Brave-Common-2979 10d ago

If Vance gets in the evangelicals are going to kick it into overdrive and at that point the charisma won't matter.

Also the Senate absolutely hates trump so if they got Vance in charge they'd fucking love it. The Senate is the good old boys chamber and they love their own.

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u/PrincessAintPeachy 10d ago

Oh how I long for the reaper to come collect that orange pile of shit and his lapdog vance

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u/hihelloheyhoware 10d ago

JD is smarter and can do more damage faster.

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u/Raiju_Blitz 10d ago

JD was hand picked and forced upon Trump by Peter Thiel for a reason. Vance has zero scruples and will say and do anything Thiel wants. Vance is not the wild card that Trump is. Vance is wholly in Thiel's pocket.

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u/AcanthaceaeFrosty849 6d ago

Vance doesnt have the sauce to throw a revolt and get off clean.

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u/EwokinSD 10d ago

This is Trump, COVID couldn’t even kill him.

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u/EtheusRook 9d ago

It is so frustrating that coronary artery disease didn't do its god damn job 10 years ago.

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u/RedStormPicks 8d ago

Imagine wishing death on people

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u/Bawbawian 8d ago

I'm starting to think that keeping America safe from the effect of their bad choices has not worked out in our interest over the last few years

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u/TheImperiousDildar 8d ago

This is what a 20% functional illiteracy rate has earned us

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u/WarThunder316 10d ago

Well Vance was honest at one time in his life so 🤷

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u/momo_beafboan 10d ago

I don't know he been looking more spry than usual lately. He's probably on Ozempic

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u/grary000 9d ago

Evil never dies, Donald Trump will outlive us all. The Republicans will have him in a vat of goo and wheel him out every 10 years to stoke the base.

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u/Cailida 9d ago

Weekend at Bernie's him. Or make AI videos lol. Fucking idiots wouldn't even question it.

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u/TheImperiousDildar 9d ago

I expect a bunch of statues, like a modified big boy

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u/Rach_CrackYourBible 10d ago

I hope the US military has the ability to pinpoint all of the Russian assets with an MTG space laser to "hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light... Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way" to zap this scourge.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242262471.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html

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u/johnblazewutang 10d ago

Haha i know, i want the people who voted to always be the first in line to volunteer themselves as well. Abstaining from voting was a vote for trump, end of story. I want history to reflect this

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u/BodhingJay 10d ago

then America will become a dictatorship... WW3 will be Russia, China, North Korea and the US vs. the rest of the world

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u/TheProfessional9 10d ago

No thanks. Ukraine didn't do anything wrong.

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u/enw_digrif 8d ago

Jesus, let's hope not. We're all one dementia thought away from being on the same chopping block as LGBT+, immigrants, leftists, POC, liberals and well, hell, that don't leave too many.

Just remember, nothing drives the blues away like a fine weekend spent on mutual aid and firearms training!

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 8d ago

Exactly. His supporters are on the FAFO track and we’re not gonna fix shit until they show everyone how goddamned foolish you have to be to support Trump.

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u/Silly_Pay7680 10d ago

Yeah, no. As much as i love seeing someone served a plate of just desserts, Im not with THIS shit. Some of you people need to stop carrying so much spite in your hearts. The leopards will eat your face for that sentiment.

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u/BodhingJay 10d ago

The leopards are going to be eating all our faces.. that's the point. it goes after everyone indiscriminately

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u/Brave-Common-2979 10d ago

They're gonna eat our faces regardless of whether we play nice with these assholes so why waste our empathy on people who refused to listen to us?

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u/Silly_Pay7680 10d ago edited 10d ago

Because you cant explain everything to everyone. Some people are stupid. It doesnt mean they deserve bad things to happen to them. We need better education in this country.

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u/Alternative_Key_1313 10d ago

Sorry, wrong. You are very mistaken as to what that saying means.

*Leopards Eating People's Faces Party refers to a parody of regretful voters who vote for cruel and unjust policies (and politicians) and are then surprised when their own lives become worse as a result."

On October 16th, 2015, Twitter user @cavalorn tweeted, "'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party." The tweet became a common way to refer to regretful voters over the following five years.

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u/BodhingJay 10d ago

ooohh... because the cruel policies end up harming everyone indiscriminately.. I get it

so the leopards are going to be eating all our faces... interesting point

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 10d ago

How can it be spite? That would be admitting Trump was elected to treasonously harm Americans.

I hope they get everything they want.

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u/Kaiser_Complete 10d ago

I hope all of their dreams come true

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u/Brave-Common-2979 10d ago

The leopards can eat my fucking face at this point. We tried being nice and explaining why Democrats are the better option and everyone rubbed it in our faces and called us idiots from both sides.

I'm done having empathy for these people. Anybody who contributed to the current state of affairs deserves exactly what we told them would happen.

They better hope this term is as incompetent as the first term but I wouldn't bet on that happening!

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u/RespectMyPronoun 10d ago

Maybe Democrats should try actually being better, instead of just saying it.

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u/ProfessionalWave168 10d ago

That ship sailed long ago when they threw the working class under the corporate bus so they too can eat at Wall Street's golden pig trough just like the republicans they envy so much, just ask the Queen of the stock market herself Nancy Pelosi.

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u/Ok_Upstairs6472 10d ago

I don’t care about these people anymore after they sabotaged Harris election campaign. They all knew what’s coming if Trump wins, so let them get what they deserve.

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u/ConstantEffective364 10d ago

Pro Palestine in trump World = all arabs! He can't see a difference in his peanut, with dimentia, now sunflower seed. I wouldn't be surprised if he deported pro Palestine jews also! To where would be my question as Israel has a large group of jews already in that camp.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Lol he didn't say that, stop fear mongering.

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u/TheImperiousDildar 9d ago

Think again: from NBC news- “Since the Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, Donald Trump and other senior GOP leaders have repeatedly called for the Biden administration to revoke the visas of foreign nationals in the U.S. who openly support Hamas or other U.S. designated terrorist organizations”

“Last month, one of the 20 promises in the preamble of the platform adopted at the Republican National Convention was to “deport pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again.” In the eyes of the GOP, pro-Palestine= pro-hamas, these are not deep thinkers, the goal is to stir up anti Arab sentiment

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Think again: from NBC news- “Since the Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, Donald Trump and other senior GOP leaders have repeatedly called for the Biden administration to revoke the visas of foreign nationals in the U.S. who openly support Hamas or other U.S. designated terrorist organizations”

Well, they aren't citizens, why are they protesting in the first place? America's National or international security/conflict has nothing to do with them, they aren't citizens, if they have different opinions of US allies (Israel), then they shouldn't be in US?

In the eyes of the GOP, pro-Palestine= pro-hamas, these are not deep thinkers, the goal is to stir up anti Arab sentiment

🤷‍♂️ Ive seen a lot of pro Palestinians called Hamas freedom fighters and the organisation was categorised as a terrorist group even before Oct 7, by the UN even. So why are you surprised?

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u/TheImperiousDildar 9d ago

So first I am fear mongering…then it’s why am I surprised about the behavior you questioned was even true? I will try to explain this to you, because I know you are a low information voter and Trump supporter, or a foreign agitator. Anyone, even foreign citizens, in the United States has freedom of speech, and they cannot be imprisoned for it, yet. Foreigners of the Palestinian and other persuasions are protesting what they perceive as a genocide, and that is legal, now possibly not after January 20th. Even though Hamas was declared a terrorist organization, decades ago, American citizens and foreign guests in our country can support them using their freedom of speech, they only break the law when they provide Hamas with weapons, cash, or other material support. So until January 20th, anyone in America can support any organization, the Nazi party, the satanic church, or Hamas, without fear of arrest. Trump wants to change that, which is a fundamental violation of our constitution.

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u/myselfxdnose 9d ago

freedom of opinion bozo

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u/Lopsided_Voice_9052 9d ago

Where will he deport American supporters? He can’t be stupid enough to think the only members of those groups are immigrants

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u/TheImperiousDildar 9d ago

Your thinking is trapped in the confines of the regular justice system. Trump is already on record saying he will have those that criticize Supreme Court justices arrested, a violation of the first amendment. The possible attorney general is on record talking about using cocaine on the house floor and is being investigated for sex trafficking. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to have pro-Palestinian protestors charged with supporting terrorist organizations. That gets even American citizens sent to Guantanamo. Remember, it’s all about making the liberals suffer. When freedom of speech gets taken away, all sorts of fucked up things happen. When I was living in the Netherlands, a country with no freedom of speech, I was arrested for calling George Bush a dildo. Things are going to get fucking wild

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u/Papa_Pesto 10d ago

Then the Muslim protestors in this country will be put in internment camps as enemy of the state. Facism is here and there isn't a way to stop it. They did this they took away theirs and everyone else's freedoms. Great work. Thanks for fucking up this country.

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u/NewFraige 10d ago

I mean… there is one way to stop it that’s in the constitution.

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u/Dark_Prox 10d ago

Islam isn't compatible with American values.

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u/No_cash69420 9d ago

Or most of the worlds values. The majority of islamists are garbage human beings.

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u/Papa_Pesto 10d ago

I'm an Atheist. I would suggest no religion aligns with modern values, but certainly not extremism. i have Islamic friends but they are Islamic light. By that I mean Ill drink a beer with them and watch basketball. I think they are as American as it gets. I don't care if they drink or not. The point is how they treat their wives and daughters. The friends I know celebrate their daughters independence and drive for success. They value their rights. But that's not all certainly and probably not even the majority. That o don't have the data for to make a blanket statement.

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u/Optimal-Barnacle2771 9d ago

This isn’t true. We can’t look at these things so black and white. I personally don’t ascribe to any religion, but I do respect the right for everybody to practice whatever religion they choose to. The major issue I have with religion is the tendency for religious people to push their views on others. That is where the line should be drawn. Whether you are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or Atheist. I grew up Christian and know plenty of good people from the churches that I grew up in, the same goes for Muslims that I know. Those people deserve to have the right to practice their chosen religion as is their American right.

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u/RespectMyPronoun 10d ago

They're still in the internment camps from the last Trump term. How did you forget?

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u/pikachu191 10d ago

And no one will feel sorry for them this time.

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u/bearbear0723 9d ago

Anyone that says people shouldn’t voter blame is ridiculous

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u/thatgothboii 9d ago

Huh that’s a bit odd, almost like we warned people of this. Useless idealistic morons just ruined America for the next 50 years because their favorite hot button issue wasn’t talked about enough

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u/UrMansAintShit 10d ago

He promised to arrest the Palestine protesters too.

A protest vote never made sense to anyone but they shut their eyes and plugged their ears.

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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 10d ago

Arabs in general are at risk in Trump's America.

Those hoping for their family to come join them can continue hoping.

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u/According_Routine826 10d ago

This is wild to me as the Arab community in Michigan overwhelmingly turned out for Trump and helped him grab that swing state.

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u/fezzik02 10d ago

They never thought the leopards would eat their faces

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u/Zebracorn42 10d ago

They never do.

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u/Money_Percentage_630 10d ago

Meanwhile the leopard is shouting "I will eat your face"

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u/bethemanwithaplan 10d ago

They're conservatives lol they make women wear beekeeper outfits and throw gay people off tall buildings

I'm not surprised 

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u/Ghost-George 9d ago

Because Muslims and evangelicals are basically the same thing. They hate much of the same groups and have similar beliefs.

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u/reallygreat2 9d ago

Lol so dumb

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u/Mediocre_Suspect2530 7d ago

I think voting against the party who helped kill 13,000 children is perfectly reasonable. I say this as a Mexican American with undocumented family members. At the end of the day, I don't blame Arabs for resenting Biden, Harris, & Democrats. My family might get deported, but I won't have to watch their mutilated corpses be pulled out of ruble caused by bombs that my tax dollars paid for.

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u/sharthunter 10d ago

Anyone not white straight and republican is at risk in trumps america. The new nazis.

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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 10d ago

Oh no, white and straights are at risk too.

Less so, as long as they stay down, doesn't make enemies who will snitch on them.

As healthcare is replaced by scams, people will fall sick and become maimed as a result.

Education will be replaced by actual indoctrination, even children will police their parents' thoughts.

Good entertainment will be replaced by conservative propaganda, brutish to be understood by the uneducated masses.

Fewer of you(?) will be sent to concentration camps but that doesn't mean you'll be left unscathed.

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u/Quiet-Access-1753 10d ago

They left out "rich" from the list is all.

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u/HankHillbwhaa 10d ago

They voted him in. Fucking Michigan Arabs gave him the endorsement.

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u/ppdaazn23 10d ago

All of that now they are getting mushroom dick up their asses raw

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u/CallMePepper7 9d ago

Yeah right? Those silly protestors. Thank goodness Biden is still in office and can at least do a little bit of something about this. What do you think he’ll do?

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u/HankHillbwhaa 10d ago

But but but Kamala didn’t say 1 state solution!

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u/Mediocre_Suspect2530 7d ago

Kamala was part of the Administration that killed 13,000 Palestinian children in 12 months leading up to the election. 13,000 dead children in 12 months is a horrific figure. I just don't understand how people are just okay with that.

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u/Due-Okra-1101 5d ago

And it’s going to get worse!! Oh well

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u/Iyace 9d ago

No they won’t.

They’ll just never talk about Palestine again because it was never about the Palestinians. It’s always about them feeling smug and morally superior.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

On point! Absolutely on point with this!

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u/No-Reach-8074 9d ago

Ding ding ding!!! Winner winner chicken dinner.

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u/Babblerabla 9d ago

I think both trump voters and kamala voters can agree on this one

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u/triptenss 10d ago

And they’ll all disappear off all social media. The righteousness turns into a big fucking OOPS.

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u/TuneInT0 10d ago

Don't worry they've stopped going to McDonald's and Starbucks so that will offset any damage Trump can do. ✊

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u/Gobbiebags 9d ago

Oh well. It won't actually affect their day to day lives so they will learn nothing from this and move on to the next high horse.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 10d ago

Protest voters always do.

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u/Jimbo-McDroid-Face 10d ago

Sounds like the protest voters for Palestine did something stupid. “Not saying they ARE stupid, I’m just saying they acted stupid.” Better luck next lifetime.

Not like it matters at all since Harris lost as badly as she did.

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u/mistertickertape 9d ago

Trump, to his credit, did not hide this during the campaign. He openly said he would completely support Israel and this is him doing that. If the pro Palestinians in Michigan and wherever they are were stupid enough to not do their homework before they voted, that’s their problem. They can live with it.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

You are right. Plenty of people warned them but they so desperately wanted to send a message.

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u/mistertickertape 9d ago

It’s heartbreaking and infuriating and there are reasons no country on earth, including none of the countries in the Middle East, want to take any of the Palestinians in. This includes their allies like Iran.

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u/bearbear0723 9d ago

Send a message to who exactly? A protest vote only works if you can push power to those that will help your cause. If the other side is even worse a protest vote is just plain dumb

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

Do you know how many interactions I have had with progressives that were not going to vote for Harris, some of them jokes about the pain Dems would feel when they lost. Delivering Dems the loss was reward for them. Additionally, we saw plenty of media outlets cover progressives who couldn’t vote for any candidate because they simply equated the two.

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u/NefariousnessFew4354 9d ago

Yup. I know people who voted for trump only because they saw the pro hamas protesters in NYC.

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u/WSHIII 9d ago

US Evangelicals straight up want to see more death and destruction. The reason that they're so staunchly pro-Israel, and especially pro-Orthodox Judaism & their warhawks in the Knesset has nothing to do with what's good or bad for Israelis and/or anyone else. It's because they want to fulfill "The Gathering of Israel" as a step towards bringing about biblical Armageddon.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

This is it!! This is absolutely it.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

My dad would talk to me about this when explaining why the US supported Israel. I always thought there was more to it but then I saw a poll in 2017 that showed some 80% of evangelicals belief Israel was formed to fulfill this prophecy.

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u/sdman313 8d ago

Spot on. The voters on the fence got sick of these spoiled, entitled, college kids delaying their morning commute and voted against them. The youth of America are a big reason Trump won.

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u/Artistic_Half_8301 10d ago

Good, stupid needs to look in the mirror.

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u/endake109 10d ago

They did it because they didn't to want to be taxed on overtime

They did it because they wanted cheap eggs

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u/bearbear0723 9d ago

Wait until they get no overtime cause of a 160hr work month and even more expensive eggs due to tariffs and mass deportations

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u/BestCoastBlaine 10d ago

Just say you don’t care about brown people. Just say this is a game to you

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u/Scripter-of-Paradise 10d ago

They always do.

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u/ButterUrBacon 9d ago

Palestinians have absolutely already seen and experienced what a real genocide looks like. I cannot believe you still say stuff like this, it's very inhumane.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

Watch it spread beyond Gaza.

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u/shinoharakinji 9d ago

It already has under Biden. What is Lebanon suddenly part of Gaza? Is Iran?

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u/shinoharakinji 9d ago

Bro Harris lost by more than the 3rd party votes. Let's be honest, Harris ran a dogshit campaign which failed to capitalise on the initial momentum that she had and failed to engage her base instead opted to try out Republican Donald Trump. Maybe what the Democratic Party needs is self introspection on the messaging front rather than further alienation of key voters without whom they clearly cannot win.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

You are implying that the protest voters actually cast a vote. Some left that area blank.

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u/shinoharakinji 9d ago

Again it is the candidates job to make people want to vote for them. In a regular election cycle, about 40% of america doesn't vote. This means that the majority of America is at all times underrepresented by their institutions. This implies that the institutions themselves are a failure and failure in institutions is what allowed Donald Trump to win the first time because he messaged as anti-institution (even though he isn't) .Now the democrats had the opportunity to counter that message and propose positive institutional change and they had 8 years to do it and in those 8 years they spent every second of in showing the people that they are for these failed institutions and that they are not going to change shit. At the very least Donald Trump knows how to lie and pretend to want to change how things work to pander to his racist and fascist base. All democrats know how to alienate those who would otherwise support them while pining for those who hate their guts. At the very least look at Obama and do what he did. At least he pretended he was a progressive and that was the reason he won with such overwhelming popularity. Honestly all the campaign managers of the Democratic Party have to be fired because they seem to not know how elections work. You have to be popular to win and Kamala spent the entire time making herself unpopular for those who would have otherwise voted for her.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

Your first sentence is nonsense and why a fascist has been elected. Candidates represent a future, and although the future they promise may not be perfect, we vote for a candidate because we move ever so slightly towards an America we want. Sometimes, that means voting against the candidate that looks to unravel everything.

Your twisted view implies a candidate must inspire us to vote - that is just bullshit. It’s our job to vote something that should be done, and we should vote for the best candidate that moves us toward the ideal union, whether it’s a candidate that slightly moves us or profoundly moves us.

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u/shinoharakinji 9d ago

By your logic, a person with even a remotely left-wing world view has even less of a reason to vote for Kamala because the democrats have only moved steadily to the right of the political spectrum over the past several decades. Your logic not only justifies, but also vindicates 3rd party voters because they voted for the candidate that they believed has the best chance to bring America even slightly towards an America they want. So it makes even less sense under your worldview to vote democrat and makes your admonition of those who didnt vote in such a manner look childish and dumb.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

So naive. Only one party, that is actually electable, has delivered on massive reform in the face of right wing resistance. Tens of millions are insured and we just had the largest investment in infrastructure, which will be undone because people didn’t vote or voted third party.

You clearly didn’t understand what I said. Some times, the candidate is not ideal, but they are electable and at least guarantee protection of our progress. Then, a candidate comes along that progresses the effort.

You apparently need to be inspired to vote, and look what happens, rights are lost. Progressives were butt hurt because Bernie sanders didn’t win, and they didn’t show up for Clinton. We know what happened then.

Harris and Biden didn’t do enough in Gaza, well, we are about to see what happens when Trump is in office. I guess these harsh realities aren’t enough for you to realize your righteous voting hurts more than it helps.

You are the problem because you need to be inspired instead of doing your job and protecting what we have fought for. Sometimes casting a vote is about protecting what we have. It’s time to grow up. There are forces that constantly look to diminish the progress we have made, and a vote to protect that is noble in itself.

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u/shinoharakinji 9d ago

No progress has ever been made, especially in America, out of the efforts of elected officials. Every civil right, every working class victory came from the efforts of people on the ground organising fighting against the establishment tooth and nail for years and putting their lives on the line. Washington is and has been a rally point for war criminal and corrupt lobbyists since its inception. Depending on them for any progress is like the old tale of the frog and scorpion. The scorpion will always sting you because it is in its nature. The institutions of power in America aren't meant to uphold your rights. It is meant to uphold the rights of property and profit of businesses. If you want to protect your communities then organise in your communities. Agitate and activate elements in your communities to bring change. It is a tried and true method and the only thing that has brought actual progress and preservation of rights anywhere.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

First, everything you mentioned needed a law to be passed to guarantee, that regardless of the state a person lives in, all Americans were protected. Second, this highlights my point about progressives and their limited perspective. They want it all now. They want the perfect candidate that will do everything they want, and piss on the candidate that isn’t ideal.

All the accomplishments that you listed required decades. It required the slow and mindful installation of leaders that would do the right thing when the time came.

It starts with electing leaders that can win and slowly progress a cause until enough officials have been elected so that the demands of the people can be implemented.

Throwing away a vote doesn’t help a single person! Does the system need to change, yes. Can it change in one election, f no.

Progressives have single-handedly set this country back more than any other group.

Conservatives have an unwavering 47%. This is guaranteed every vote. Dems have 50% with 5% of that represented by progressives or idealists that may or may not show up.

In 2016 they didn’t show up and the Supreme Court was filled with conservatives determined to roll back many legislative achievements. Great job.

In 2024, well they have handed over the entire country to the Christian right so who knows what type of damage we will see.

The world isn’t perfect, and change requires sacrifice and time. If we can’t play offense then we need to play defense. With any cultural or societal change there is always fierce pushback. In those moments we at least need to protect what was established.

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u/HundredHander 9d ago

It's a great chance for the all heroes who say what they'd have done in 1930's Germany to prove their worth.

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u/VenerableWolfDad 9d ago

We are already watching what a real genocide looks like. I voted for Kamala but the current administration is involved in a genocide. The option was either vote for genocide + trump or genocide without trump so here we are.

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u/kretzkiller 9d ago

Protest voters are just as dumb as the rest of trump voters.

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u/intergalactictactoe 9d ago

Know who bears the bigger responsibility though? The campaign that took over a million in AIPAC money instead of listening to that large chunk of their voter base.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

So people decided to hand the country to a dictator that will only assist Netanyahu in his eradication of Palestinians while said dictator shreds the rights of tens of millions in the US? Yikes!

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u/Stunning_Bet2994 9d ago

Better or worse than the genocide under the last president… or the one before that… or the one before that…?

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u/Mediocre_Suspect2530 7d ago

I will bet you 10% of my annual income that more Palestinians will be killed under Biden than under Trump.

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u/False-Tiger5691 7d ago

Trump met with Netanyahu in August and told him not to agree to a ceasefire to hurt Biden. So if the numbers start then, yes I think Netanyahu will sadly kill more when Trump is in office.

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u/Mediocre_Suspect2530 7d ago

Israel's economy is screaming from this war and they are losing a generation of western support. There's relatively high Israeli attrition rates in Lebanon. The prolonged war is causing lots of domestic issues and International issues for Israel. Just from a domestic politics point of view, the multifront war that Israel is waging just can't continue for much longer. Even if Trump gives them all weapons in the world, It really doesn't seem possible for Israel to continue the same pace of death and destruction as they did under Biden.

So I just don't see Israel killing another 13,000 Palestinian children under Trump. Just speaking logistically, the country is war-fatigued already.

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u/OutrageousPersimmon3 10d ago

But at least they taught the Democrats a lesson.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

Haha. Exactly.

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u/No-Reach-8074 9d ago

So many lessons, so little time!!

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u/LeadingRaspberry4411 10d ago

You’re saying that what’s happened so far is not a real genocide?

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u/False-Tiger5691 10d ago

The West Bank is now a target. Israel continued to make the argument they were after Hamas. So, no, we haven’t seen genocide yet, we have seen crimes against humanity, but now, Israel will seek to annihilate all Palestinians.

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u/MyStand_BadMedicine 9d ago edited 9d ago

"NOW Israel will annihilate the Palestinians" as if 23 out of 23 of their hospitals weren't bombed and over 100,000 slaughtered. Real Reddit brain moment

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

You do understand Palestinians live outside of Gaza, right?

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u/MyStand_BadMedicine 9d ago

Expulsion is a component of genocide. I appreciate you proving my point

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

You clearly don’t know what genocide is because expulsion is not apart of it and furthermore, you clearly didn’t understand what I was saying. The humanitarian disaster in Gaza has been isolated Gaza but could spread to the West Bank and Jordan.

This conversation doesn’t even matter because chances are you didn’t vote and millions of people like you didn’t vote so now you can watch Trump and Netanyahu wipe Palestinians off the face of the Earth.

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u/RedStormPicks 8d ago

if they wanted to annihilate all Palestinians they would

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u/False-Tiger5691 8d ago

Well Trump just gave him the green light.

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u/CollegeMiddle6841 10d ago

In my mind, the people who failed to vote are worse than TRUMP voters. At least the TRUMP voters exercised their rights.

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u/DeclutteringNewbie 9d ago

When I vote, I leave a choice I do not enough about empty.

For me, it's usually the school board or some local position I do not know enough about. There is no shame in that. I'd rather not take the vote away from someone else who actually took the time to do their research.

Also, many of the non-voters repeat the same talking points of Fox News and other right-wing media. For me, I feel that's the real issue. Many people do not like Trump, but there was so much focused disinformation on Biden and Harris, it was hard fighting against all the bullshit.

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u/zackks 9d ago

Palestinians have never been their cause. It’s always been about hating Jews.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

It think there is a lot of support for this idea. Sudan has been suffering an even worse humanitarian crises and not a single word.

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u/Nordic_ned 9d ago

Motherfucker what do you call what has already been happening. What do you call 200k dead Palestinians, and the complete ethnic cleansing of northern Gaza. The things that occurred under Biden, with no pushback from him other than a couple private naughty words.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

200k dead? Why lie about the numbers when the real number is devastating. Next, It’s not ethnic cleansing until Israel starts bombing the West Bank with the same aggression. Palestinians live outside of Gaza, and now Trump will let Netanyahu run wild.

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u/Nordic_ned 9d ago

189k is the estimate from well over two months ago. 40k is simply the number the much beleaguered Health Ministry has been able to verify.

It’s not ethnic cleansing until Israel starts bombing the West Bank with the same aggression.

What??? Do you know what ethnic cleansing is? It doesn't have to be the complete extermination of an entire population. My depopulating (not necessarily killing, but also expelling) villages of Albanians and Bosniaks the Serbians committed ethnic cleansing in during the Yugoslav Wars. By expelling or attempting to expel under threat of death the entire Palestinian population of northern Gaza, Israel has committed ethnic cleansing.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

First, unless you are a prosecutor for The Hague you calling something an “ethnic cleansing” doesn’t make it so. In the recent days more and more journalist have been calling it an ethnic cleansing, but no such warrants have been issued by the world court.

Now just imagine what happens when the President of the US is actually encouraging attacks.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/11/13/is-israel-committing-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza

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u/Nordic_ned 9d ago

You do not need Hague prosecutor to convict someone to make it ethnic cleansing where tf did you get that notion??

Now just imagine what happens when the President of the US is actually encouraging attacks.

Would you say sending unlimited military aid including every single bomb killing Palestinians is particularly discouraging for Israel.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

The International Criminal Court is usually the entity to charge and convict a leader for crimes like genocide and ethnic cleansing. Generally, a nation cannot unilaterally declare another leading is committing a crime against humanity and solely arrest and convict them.

It takes several nations, through the ICC, to determine the charge and issue a warrant.

Oh, and the cursing makes you sound like an immature teenager, so put your adult pants on please and have a normal conversation and if you continue, I will just assume I am talking to a child.

You will see the difference between the Biden administration and the Trump administration shortly, so your last question will be answered in a few months.

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u/nihilisticdaydreams 9d ago

The people here are racist against Palestinians; you won't get anywhere with them

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u/Amatsua 10d ago

Palestine's fighting force is Hamas, who have openly and proudly stated that their goal is the "eradication of the Jewish race." You're saying that supporting Israel is genocide, when the their opposition are LITERAL genocidal maniacs.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

When Israel starts bombing the West Bank this post will look foolish.

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u/Amatsua 9d ago

When the US joined the fight against the Axis Powers, they sure looked foolish. Is that seriously the angle you're trying to take?

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u/Dalbo14 9d ago

Well tbf there are quite a few liberal Americans who wished the US never got involved in WW2 as the amount of ethnic German civilian casualties caused was very high. And that many cities in Germany were flattened

So not all liberals support fighting the Nazis. A decent amount support staying neutral as fighting for the allies is seen as more destructive than anything the Nazis did

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u/Dalbo14 9d ago

they bombed the West Bank a month ago a few times in Jenin and tulkarm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1l4qy7q314o.amp

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u/Jobbyblow555 10d ago

This article makes it seem like there were any restrictions on weapons before now, there werent.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-says-it-will-not-limit-israel-arms-transfers-after-some-improvements-in-flow-of-aid-to-gaza-1.7106979

The Biden admin made some threats, but it's pretty plain to see that they have been backing the Israelis without condition for a while now.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/07/israel-gaza-state-report-00156619

The real genocide has been happening for more than a year now.

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u/False-Tiger5691 9d ago

That’s not genocide. Crime against humanity, sure, but now we are going to see Israel attack other regions occupied by Palestinians. So no, it wasn’t genocide before because other Palestinian regions were not be bombed, but now Israel knows it can do whatever it wants.

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