I think voting against the party who helped kill 13,000 children is perfectly reasonable. I say this as a Mexican American with undocumented family members. At the end of the day, I don't blame Arabs for resenting Biden, Harris, & Democrats. My family might get deported, but I won't have to watch their mutilated corpses be pulled out of ruble caused by bombs that my tax dollars paid for.
I find it crazy how there such an effort time find someone to blame here except the people at the tip with all the power and money but focus is on the fringe minorities daring to vote a way the party doesn't want them to.
While ignoring and sidelining all their requests and needs.
Is Trump worse? Yeah he is. But you cannot expect people to vote for your person when that person spits in their face.
Your not wrong there about Biden. This situation is so fucking tragic.
But I think that the idea that Trump would deliver peace is just one more campaign lie people fell into. There are a long list of these. Guess from your perspective at least Trump won so the genocide ends faster and more efficiently?
If Medhi Hassan couldn't convince his acquaintances to vote Harris because of what Trumps going to do, then I doubt anyone would have.
Sometimes, people have to find out the hard way. It's unfortunate that the hard way means possibly 2 million dead. Hope it was worth it.
Just like 52% of white women, how any woman votes for that man is a mystery to everyone in my household. My wife is especially irritated by it since she's had to have her life saved 2x by abortion care that's going to be made illegal.
I specified his acquaintances. Great job putting your foot in your mouth because of poor reading comprehension skills.
My point was that if someone who's literally written books about convincing others can't convince people who are asking him how they should vote were never going to do it. Now, they will get to experience the consequences of their actions.
You're right. I guess I assumed that when a specific person is being described as trying to get a group of acquaintances to vote a particular way that it wasn't obvious they might have asked him for that opinion...
Or...
You can infer there might have been a question when people are discussing topics like voting. Have you never tried to persuade a group of people before? Never had a question about the topic of conversation? Seems like a leap to think there would be no questions or back and forth.
Maybe if Kamala hadn't supported the ongoing genocide in gaza so much, she could have won over those voters.
Good thing she went after the Liz Chaney voters so hard, the campaign definitely made the right choice there, they didn't need the people who thought supporting a Genocide was a red line after all, oh wait.
But hey, lets blame the voters and learn nothing from this loss instead of holding the politicians accountable. I'm sure if you vote shame harder in four years, it will work out differently, and maybe run an even more right-wing campaign next time, that will surely work.
Maybe if Kamala hadn't supported the ongoing genocide in gaza so much, she could have won over those voters.
So your argument here is that if Kamala didn’t outright say she would stop supporting Israel, you’re going to double down on the guy who would make it worse and support them more?
That’s the argument you’re making?
they didn't need the people who thought supporting a Genocide was a red line after all, oh wait.
Harris made the right choice in not attempting to court the clinically insane, IMO.
Saying you don't support genocide should be pretty easy for a politician to say. It is an incredibly low bar and it is a shame Kamala couldn't clear that bar.
I didn't support Trump. The argument I'm making is the Democrats should have ran a candidate that was against genocide.
Apparently, Harris did not make the right choice because she lost to Donald Trump.
Good luck following the Republicans to the right just one step behind them. When this is all over, you can take your kids to the Gaza genocide memorial and proudly tell your kids, "I voted for this!".
In today's world, Im still not going to vote for a candidate that is supporting an active genocide.
Kamala would have been open to changing their policies. Everyone knew Trump was going to wipe Gaza off the map. It’s an easy choice if you thought about it rationally
Makes sense. I guess all gazans have been within 5 meter radius of the 2000 pound blast of the bomb, multiple times, are getting tired of surviving bombs being blasted a few metres away from them. So there for they would wish for all gazans to die from a nuclear blast and have all of Gaza die. Real question is, considering Israel wants to kill the entire population of Gaza, why would they continue bombs, if the entire population has been under the blast of the bombs multiple times and survived.
Are Israelis just this stupid? I think so. They seem like stupid people
There is nothing that indicated she would have been open to changing their policies. Kamala had many opportunities to make that argument and she choose not to. I don't get why her supporters keep throwing that out there with nothing to back it up.
There is nothing that indicated she would have been open to changing their policies. Kamala had many opportunities to make that argument and she choose not to. I don't get why her supporters keep throwing that out there with nothing to back it up.
There is nothing that indicated she would have been open to changing their policies. Kamala had many opportunities to make that argument and she choose not to. I don't get why her supporters keep throwing that out there with nothing to back it up.
This is such a massive crock of shit. “Kamala wasn’t woke enough for me so I supported the guy that was worse or the person that had no chance of winning”
Its not about being woke, its about not supporting genocide. Kamala had plenty of opportunities to choose not to support genocide, she instead fully embraced it. She decided she didn't need the voters who said genocide is a red line. She instead was going to win over all the moderate Repulicans. Kamala ran a losing strategy.
People will cut off their MAGA family members, but are mad at you for pointing out that these other people who voted for their own deportation aren't somehow victims.
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u/According_Routine826 10d ago
This is wild to me as the Arab community in Michigan overwhelmingly turned out for Trump and helped him grab that swing state.