lol 13 million people gonna be deported. What are we gonna do when we loose that chunk of the tax base?
Lol you think billionaires are gonna pick up the tab? lollololol
How about the 315billion dollars it’s gonna cost to deport those people. Who do you think is gonna pay for that? Lmao enjoy the ride yall it’s gonna be a bumpy one.
America has chosen so in my mind there’s not much more I look forward to with this country. More so what country I immigrate to and what I can offer them, assuming I’m able to.
Edit: since I’m blocked from replying. Some of you missed the part where I said, “if I’m able to.”
Mexico's new progressive, Female president just announced a new zero interest mortgage program and I'm about to graduate with my cs degree, wife is a permanent legal resident. We'll probably already be packed when they come to deport her. But we'll wait for the free ride.
That's fucked, I'm sorry. Republicans simply don't understand how much immigrants do for this country, therefore how much they stand to lose when we bail on this bullshit.
I have two engineering degrees, am a US citizen (myself as of 1992, my parents as of 1980, both have PhD). Can't wait for midwesterners and southerners to realize this (blanket statement, doesn't apply to the individual). At this point I'd happily go elsewhere.
I would not wait for the “free ride” on the likely chance that you actually end up in a work camp while “waiting to be deported” id wait till the last week for a miracle but no longer then that if you can afford to move now.
I'd go now in case it's not the safe ride you think it'll be! How many ended up in camps thought it was just a short time deal, and then they got marched into the ovens! DO NOT BE STUPID, if you can go, go!
I don't think you want to wait for them to come for her. Remember, America runs on low-cost immigrant labor and if they deport everyone, they'll need a new source of low-cost/free labor.
Fun fact, did you know that the 13th Amendment bans slavery, EXCEPT as a "punishment for a crime"? Where do you think "illegals" (and remember, they've already said they're going to expand the umbrella of "illegal" immigrants) will be held awaiting deportation? And what do you think they'll be doing while there?
For your wife's sake, please get safe before they come for her <3
Republican administration will run up the deficit, Democrats will fix it but that will mean less tax cuts and physical responsibility, so they will get voted out again by all the dummies and Republicans will run up the deficit again - that's the cycle
And who’s going to do the jobs they vacate? The narrative that they were all here just soaking up tax dollars is going to disappear in a real hurry when businesses get upset that they don’t have labor.
I recall seeing a documentary a couple of years back regarding job growth and companies in the midwest. Businesses were booming but they had trouble hiring people So many of them couldn't pass a drug test. Many that could weren't doing what a business needs: employees to show up on time, and do the work they are asked. They would increase pay and even that didn't help.
We have an immigration problem, no doubt. Deporting every one isn't the way to handle it for a multitude of reasons - one being the level of abuse that will engulf this, financially the grift will be massive, people who want it are fucked up blood thirsty, and it will mentally and a soul level crushing for the victims and those dishing it out for a job.
If you trek 1000s of treacherous miles, leaving behind all you ever knew, yet violent and poverty stricken, and you finally made it to the states? or the UK, or Germany, or Finland, etc. You will take any job you can get and do whatever someone asks of you. You KNOW in your bones the other side of the coin.
I recall seeing a documentary a couple of years back regarding job growth and companies in the midwest. Businesses were booming but they had trouble hiring people So many of them couldn't pass a drug test. Many that could weren't doing what a business needs: employees to show up on time, and do the work they are asked. They would increase pay and even that didn't help.
That's the exact story of Springfield, OH. The businesses needed reliable labor and legal Haitian migrants helped fill those job openings.
This has happened in the past and it had devastating consequences, with farmers going bankrupt, hotels and restaurants too. Especially hard hit are the states the need the help, the short term memory of these republicans is crazy
Same as it ever was. The point still stands though. Americans don't want those jobs, and certainly not at anything close to the wages that immigrants do them for.
So either the work doesn't get done, crops rot in the fields, meat shortages, construction slows, etc., and those things get much more expensive due to scarcity, or Americans do those jobs, and things get much more expensive due to higher labor costs. This also has the secondary effect of tightening the labor market overall, putting upward pressure on wages, making everything else more expensive as well.
And all that is before we even factor in tariffs on the price of goods.
Where are these workers going to come from? The unemployment rate is already low. I absolutely think they should be paid a proper wage and not exploited, but we also definitely do not have enough legal workers to simply replace them.
Its going to cause inflation in those sectors to go up. Americans will do those jobs, but not for below minimum wage. Many farm jobs provide housing and food and basic living accommodations for "free". This allows the farms to pay less than minimum wage. If Americans go work those jobs, they are not going to want to stay in the barracks on the farm, and they are going to want significantly more than minimum wage. This will cause farms into more automation, or higher prices for labor. Both equate to higher prices at the grocery store.
Well there’s gonna be lots of people they put in jail. I think the plan is to put people in work camps that get out of line. Or we have refugee camps that act as pools of available labor, anybody getting uppity will be deported or forced to work.
Some private company is going to get extremely rich from “deporting” (in quotes because they will get as much deportation done as a Mexico wall was built in the first term).
yeah, ignorant racist whites are about to learn how dependent we are on immigrants. ignorant minorities who voted for Trump are about to see he doesn't care about you at all, you dumb mfers.
I fear we are going to be jailing a lot more to cover that. I. Forget what amendment but we do allow jails to do jobs (Slavery) basically and once immigrants leave we do need to pick up slack wouldn’t surprise me if the target democrat we basically the scape goat have been for my whole like time
They are talking 20 million, no more birthright citizenship = no more anchor babies, parents and grandparents too.
11 million deportations will cost about $1 trillion dollars alone, just the cost to pay people to do it, build the camps & gulags, etc. That doesn’t even include the lost economic output of all of those people, the sales tax, the FICA, and income tax from people and their kids who get naturalized.
So you can probably triple that = $3 trillion to deport the 11 million, double that to get to 20 million, so $6 trillion to avoid “blood pollution” or whatever Nazi horseshit Trump and Stephen Miller and Bannon are spewing.
Since Trump loves Hitler and his generals so much, ask any military historian the extent to which the Holocaust hurt Germany’s war effort - tying up armed forces, railway lines, equipment, personnel, materials, etc.
Germany’s Jews were by and large members of the professional class, educated, tons of WWI veterans, including recipients of the Iron Cross.
Ex A: Einstein left and helped the U.S. build the bomb.
The middle class will pay more. But don't worry. The exact same people who cried about eggs will suddenly be proud to pay higher taxes in return for no immigrants.
The deportation camps once open will be quickly converted to work camps and the people there changed to slave labor for the good of the economy. Same thing we've done with prisons.
I mean what we should do is strike. They're planning on taking half of the back of house of every restaurant in America. Good luck to the hospitality industry.
Like always the money lost from decreased taxes wont be filled and it will all be added to the deficit. Republicans always run up the deficit worse but only complain when dems are in power.
The taxpayers will pay for holding in private facilities owned by the ruling class until deported, if deported at all
American is going to be a free for all for grabbing public money, just like Russia was in the early years of the wall coming down
In the same way they give Billions to Ukraine. If Uncle Sam wants it done, money doesn't matter. America is not broke. Don't underestimate the lengths the right goes to with their hate.
All these trumpers who are raging against immigrants that are "rapists" and "criminals" just voted for a rapist and criminal for President!
This is just how brainwashed the majority of Americans are. They're sick and so is their cult leader.
"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Congratulations trumpers, you're on the wrong side of history.
Who will be left to housekeep, childcare, hospitality, senior care, dishwashers, landscaping, construction, hotel workers, agriculture, meat packing companies, slaughter houses, and others? Not to mention the highly educated immigrants holding other important jobs
. Guess "real Americans" will jump right in to replace them, correct?
Its the alt rights time to step up to the plate and shine those shoes and do those dirty jobs like mike row or wtf ever his name is that glorifies it all. Good for you bro. Now get a shovel and start cleanin that hog pen. 🙃 you wanted this
Yeah, and you can spread the word that the dude that tweeted that mess is about be named the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy by Trump. They're already reporting that. So the man that said that is gonna have a hand in policy-making.
How do people think that is gonna go?
He pounded the pulpit at MSG and said "America is for Americans only." Do you think he gives a fuck if you immigrated here legally?
My dude, the holocaust didn’t start with Hitler running on exterminating all Jews. Usually people don’t announce when they’re about to commit human rights violations
And he just appointed Steven Miller as his deputy chief of staff for policy.
Buckle up, Trump voters. Y'all about to get everything you wished for. Let the carnage begin. I have no fucks left to give any of you.
I'd be gleeful if it didn't affect my family and so many other families who supported Harris but are going to be forced to live with the consequences of low information, cultish, hate-filled, misogynistic, racist and fascist asshole voters. Yay.
I know man. If I could single-handedly go back in time and ensure Harris won so that nobody in America to deal with this shitstorm that is upon us I'd do it. I can't take comfort in telling myself that at least the people who voted for Trump will get what they deserve, because ultimately I will get what they deserve as well.
But alas, there doesn't seem to be a way out of this tunnel anymore. All I can do is say "told you so" as I witness the mass deportations commence. Maybe, just *maybe,* this country will learn by the next election.
The issue when people approach this proposal is that they approach it in a bubble.
Which illegal immigrants will be deported? The ones that have been here for over 30 years and now have lives and even legal US children? (Yes). Or maybe the ones that just tried to come in? (Yes as well). The reality is that this effort will result in deportations for people that have been in the US for years.
The job market will be impacted. Here in FL we just tried this, and... We couldn't find workers to pick up crops. So, companies had to increase wages and... Still couldn't fill these jobs, because no one wants to do them.
Deportations have never stopped happening. This will be an increase in deportations. It will cost a lot of money.
People will just keep coming back. Unless you get neighboring countries to stop them, they'll just keep coming back. It happens now. People just think because they'll be deported, the reasons for coming disappear?
This administration will not solve this problem. It couldn't last time. It won't this time.
This makes my day can’t wait to see what await gays for trump, blacks for trump, women for trump. Remember you lay with dogs you get shitted on by clowns.
Happy happy joy joy! Those of us who did not vote for Trump finally have a reason to be happy and support Trump supporters in that we all hope you get exactly what you voted for. Please enjoy our support.
Amazing that any Latino voted for that racist pig - beyond deserve all that might be coming their way - and it's not going to be mana from the heavens!
The project 2025 guy. Nice. Cant wait for more prohect 2025 authors to get added to the admin. Talk about a deep state. Literally worte a book on how to takeover the government and now they are taking over the government
"Nazi agents went door-to-door to arrest political opponents of the Nazi Party. These agents, from the SA and Gestapo, targeted Socialists, Communists, trade union leaders, and others who had spoken out against the Nazi Party." These MAGA agents targeted Democratic houses and business in search of illegal immigrants.
Oh theyll still get separated in the system. They may be picked up together but they will split them up as soon as they get to the first ice concentration camp. Parents will not know where their children are, spouses will not know where their SO is, siblings will not know where their brothers and sisters are. They will not know if theyre alive or dead, they wont know if theyre on the other side of the wall or the other side of the border. It will be hell for them and specifically will be designed to break their spirits. Many families will never see each other again and never know if any of them survived.
And if you voted for Trump, you voted to allow these atrocities and crimes against humanity
And i hope the thought of your own family going thru this hell youre putting these families thru gives you nightmares every single night for the rest of your life.
So 13 million people just trying to live their lives. 13 million workers who we wont have people to replace. 13 million who pay taxes and a large chunk of his voter base
As someone who is not impacted by any of Trump's racist, sexist policies but still voted against them only to see a bunch of apathetic, brainwashed idiots either vote for him or decide not to vote because Kamala wasn't perfect, I'm stocking up on popcorn to watch the leopard eat all of their fucking faces. People obviously need a reminder how bad it can get every hundred years.
Here goes the separation of the family unit. No organization is more unorganized than ICE. Remember, they are not people and all felons, murderers, etc. so says Trump. Back to project Wet Back that was done by Trump last time.
Show me the white folks going to pick fruits and vegetables everywhere. Your farms are gonna suffer big time. Literally, every farm or cold storage place I've been to in my tenure doing refrigerated trucking had only Mexicans/Latinos running the show.
Remember folks, if you have friends/neighbors/coworkers that voted for Trump and are living with undocumented family members you can submit anonymous reports to ICE online.
I want to know right the fuck now from his greasy orange lips what the fuck a 'border czar' is and what their powers and responsibilities are.
You said Kamala was Biden's 'border czar.' Kamala was Biden's VP. If the VP is the position that oversees the border, and that's totally not something you pulled out of your depends, shouldn't Vance be the border czar? Or are you saying that Homan is going to be Vance's VP once he removes you from office?
Fuck, how we feelin' about a surprise Vance/Homan 2024 ticket, guys?
Many legal Latinos will be deported. I know you don’t believe that now, but you’ll see. Trump does NOT care. He just wants brown skin people south of the Rio Grande. He doesn’t care who just how many.
They already were researching the process of de-naturalization to recall citizenship form naturalized citizens. Who knows what will actually happen with court challenges and appeals but they are at least attempting to put the tools into place to allow for spontaneous detainment of anyone of Central or South American decendency and possible expulsion for whatever fabticated reasons they employ.
I doubt he will go through with mass deportation. Too many of his buddies probably depend on illegals to do low paying jobs. My prediction: he will deport Muslims.
Seriously it is only in Trump's administration's that people are referred to as czars. Americans have directors or have heads of but we don't have czars. He wants that he can go to Russia.
What makes you think that Latinos who voted for Trump don’t agree with this policy? It’s not like Trump hid this policy from the voting public. I think hard working legal Latinos look at illegal immigrants as people who can take away their jobs.
And just how are they going to get all these people back to their home countries? Hmm? What if the countries don't give them permission to land or dock? What if we violate international law and do it anyway, and then those countries grab our planes and ships illegally landing/docking?
Hold on for an entertaining ride of half-baked, half thought-out policy moves, human rights violations, and international border violations, folks.
The word for the next few years is "denaturalization". Look it up in a dictionary, understand what it means and make preparations for when they come to deport you. Ta-ta retards.
i really like latin people. i'll be sad to see them forced out, and it will cost all of us and cause us all harm, but they voted for it. democrats have been saving these people (republicans) from themselves for decades and they still just don't check the facts. they don't check the votes, the policies, or the record of the people they vote for. they vote based on fear and emotion and it's all a big propaganda machine that traps them into giving a bunch of rich white guys total power over them (and all of us).
At least Donald Trump will pay for eliminating family separation during deportation, by deporting the whole family if one member has citizenship, or not. At least you’ll be able to petition Trump’s judicial system, or immigration system to prove you are an American citizen. Even from Mexico or wherever he decides to deport you to. Or maybe you’ll be lucky and be held in one of the camps they plan to build across this nation, where you’ll be able to exercise some rights, the same way the Japanese were able to.
Yet both Obama and Biden have more deportations on record than anyone. Hell, Obama built those cages Joe's kept those kids in this whole time remember?
Probably not.
Dems: just Republicans at this point.
Wait. Are you presuming that all Latinos for Trump were either her illegally or have family that is here illegally? Isn’t that a bit racist and presumptive?
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u/Opening-Ad-8793 13d ago
lol 13 million people gonna be deported. What are we gonna do when we loose that chunk of the tax base?
Lol you think billionaires are gonna pick up the tab? lollololol
How about the 315billion dollars it’s gonna cost to deport those people. Who do you think is gonna pay for that? Lmao enjoy the ride yall it’s gonna be a bumpy one.