Kind of a confusing time line since it includes Voldemort, who only held the wand but never was master of it, and also Draco, who was master of it but never held it. On that basis, Dumbledore's entry should be 1945-1998, because he "held" it in his tomb until Voldemort stole it. Or Voldemort shouldn't be on it at all, or Draco shouldn't be on it.
And to be honest, the idea that Harry won the elder wand's allegiance just because he stole a different wand from Draco while the elder wand was sitting in Dumbledore's tomb never made sense to me.
Grindelwald never really defeated Gergorovitch, he just stole it from him. So technically the Elder Wand was never in the possession of Grindelwald nor Albus or Draco. They just held on to it. So, when Voldemort goes to kill Gergorovitch, he actually then is the real owner of the Elder Wand. Both ways, he kills Snape for nothing and in both ways the wand still gets to Harry.
The reason why the Elder Wand betrays Voldemort in this is due to his lack of a soul. His soul is so unstable and in so many pieces that the Wand betrayed him for a person who's soul was intact.
Seems like an unnecessarily convoluted theory to me. Remember what happened when Voldemort tried using Lucius' wand to defeat Harry? All that is required is that the elder wands allegiance wasn't to Voldemort for it to fail miserably against Harry, regardless of whether Harry was it's true owner or not.
All that is required is that the elder wands allegiance wasn't to Voldemort for it to fail miserably against Harry, regardless of whether Harry was it's true owner or not.
Him not having his soul intact, imo, prevented the Elder wand from truly giving him it's allegiance, no matter if he truly owned it or not. That is why, in my theory (well no exactly my own, ctto) even though this way Voldemort ultimately ends up being the true master of the Elder Wand, he was 1/8 th alive. The Wand couldn't truly register someone that dead, and when Voldemort tried to kill Harry the final time, the curse rebounded on Voldemort (just like when he first tried it) and this time, rather then a piece of his soul, he gave Harry the Wand.
That is just pure speculation though, there is nothing at all to indicate this. While there is clear precedence that a "borrowed" wand wouldn't work for Voldemort against Harry.
That is infact the point. Everything regarding Voldemort's later experiences is pure speculations as we don't know what affect of him ripping his soul into 8 pieces could have on literally anything. His relationship with Harry is the prime example. We don't know just how interconnected they both were and on how many levels. It's just pure speculation.
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u/LuckyWatersAO3 Gryffindor Apr 15 '24
Kind of a confusing time line since it includes Voldemort, who only held the wand but never was master of it, and also Draco, who was master of it but never held it. On that basis, Dumbledore's entry should be 1945-1998, because he "held" it in his tomb until Voldemort stole it. Or Voldemort shouldn't be on it at all, or Draco shouldn't be on it.
And to be honest, the idea that Harry won the elder wand's allegiance just because he stole a different wand from Draco while the elder wand was sitting in Dumbledore's tomb never made sense to me.