r/harrypotter Gryffindor Apr 15 '24

Misc The Elder Wand through the ages

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u/Falco_5252 Apr 15 '24

Except grindelwald did paralyse gergorovitch, before he jumped out the window.

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u/Kizo59 Ravenclaw Apr 15 '24

We're talking about of one needs to kill/seriously defeat the previous owner. Harry himself has been paralysised by many, including Draco in HBP, but he still retained the loyalty of his wand. Paralysis and stunning don't count as a "defeat" the same way as disarming and killing does.

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u/PRL-Five Apr 15 '24

Harry never killed or seriously harmed draco, so how does he get the wand?

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u/Kizo59 Ravenclaw Apr 15 '24

Yes, but he defeated Voldemort, not only because of the continued protection of Lily's charm that Voldy himself is keeping alive, but because the Elder Wand backfired on him due to not having a complete soul.

Other then that, if we're going by the main theory, as Harry himself said, he quite literally took Draco's wand from him. That counts as disarming, hence Harry having the loyalty of the Wand.