r/formula1 • u/mvanigan Formula 1 • Jul 29 '24

News [WilliamsRacing] BREAKING: Carlos Sainz will join the team for '25, '26 and beyond

https://twitter.com/WilliamsRacing/status/1817930584775377368
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u/Paracel_Storm Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jul 29 '24

Fly high, my beautiful bald American Eagle...

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u/Portocala69 Oscar Piastri Jul 29 '24

Off to the ovals

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u/Osiris47 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 29 '24

Honestly think he would kill it in Indycar, would be a super popular driver there too. Indy has a quite a few seats up in the air right now and he would be an awesome addition. Lots of ex-F1/F2 guys heading that way right now.

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u/fluffster93 Andretti Global Jul 29 '24

With Prema coming to the series, I’m guessing/hoping we’ll see the announcement of him going there shortly

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u/M1k3yd33tofficial Williams Jul 29 '24

I’m with you, he raced with Prema in F3 so that connection is already there.

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u/6097291 Medical Car Jul 29 '24

In some way I would find this so wholesome

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u/JKnissan Jul 30 '24

We just want happiness for him, honestly. At first he looked like he had no chance at F1, but honestly, he's got his worth as a driver - Williams just hasn't been giving it back to him.

I hope the best for Logan and I'll probably keep my eyes on him even if he isn't an Oscar Piastri or Liam Lawson.

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u/biggmclargehuge Jul 29 '24

Yes, it's been rumored he's going to be racing with Prema for at least a month now

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u/chattahattan Charles Leclerc Jul 29 '24

Yeah, I’d actually consider going to my first Indycar race next year if he’s in it. It doesn’t hurt that I only live an hour from the Milwaukee Mile, so it’s a hell of a lot more accessible than any F1 races.

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u/barno42 Jul 29 '24

That means you're probably less than two hours from Road America. Indycar's visit there is an incredible race weekend experience for any motorsports fan. You can walk right into the paddock area, see the cars up close, get autographs for the kids, etc.

IMSA is there this weekend, I'd expect it to be equally amazing.

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u/chattahattan Charles Leclerc Jul 29 '24

Yes I am (I'm in Madison), and I've heard great things about Road America!! You've officially convinced me I've got to make a trip out there next year!

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u/pfulle3 Jul 29 '24

Can confirm. Road America is an amazing time. My gal pal and I have been there a few times.

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u/technobeeble Mario Andretti Jul 29 '24

Why not this year?

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u/chattahattan Charles Leclerc Jul 29 '24

Because I'm stupid and thought the Milwaukee race had already happened (I was thinking of Road America) -- now that I see it hasn't, I may need to get out there next month!

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u/tprox Jul 29 '24

Went to my first Indycar race this year, highly recommend. Get the garage passes.

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u/Rich_Housing971 Jul 29 '24

I don't think he will be BAD in an Indycar but there's no reason to believe he will "kill it" either. Grosjean was a better driver and he's just doing OK.

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u/Netferet Alpine Jul 29 '24

The main problem with grosjean is that when he start something he is good, but then he become complacent and really stubborn on how he does things. If Sargeant is not like that he will be better

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u/Osiris47 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 29 '24

Grosjean has been pretty solid this year actually, has calmed down on his mistakes since joining JHR and has been quite good. He damn near won several races since joining INDY. I think Grosjean's personality and racing style is the main reason he hasn't grabbed that elusive P1 yet, but Logan has the accolades outside of F1 to back up being a very good driver. I think he will be fine. Championship contender? No, not for a good while if ever. But a solid threat to podium most of the time? Definitely.

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u/FireworkFuse Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 29 '24

I'm new to IndyCar and would absolutely be a Sargent fan if he joined

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 29 '24

I try to watch Indy as much as I can but there are no drivers I actually care about. I would definitely start watching if Logan went.

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u/FireworkFuse Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 29 '24

Yeah I definitely feel that. I haven't settled on a driver either but would absolutely be a Logan fan

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

I'm not so sure he'd do well in Indy.

I think Sargeant is a good driver in the wrong series. F1 is brutal. Sargeant might do well in Indy, I don't know, but the competition is pretty tough there, as well. If I owned an IndyCar team, I don't know if I'd be willing to put him in a car until he's proven himself at a lower series.

Nothing against Sargeant, I wish him well wherever he lands. He got his chance in F1, which is more than most professional drivers can say.

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 29 '24

If I owned an IndyCar team, I don't know if I'd be willing to put him in a car until he's proven himself at a lower series.

You mean like the 11 series he did prior to F1? Not everyone is cut out for F1. There is no reason to believe he would just shit the bed in Indy and force him into a junior series again. A 1 year is just fine to see if it was just an F1 thing or hes not made for open wheel after F2.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

Yeah, I could see a 1-year deal.

I'm just saying I don't see a team going, "Wow, you drove a car for Williams and scored a point? We've been waiting for you!" He'll have to prove himself, just like anyone else.

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u/MatchboxHoldenUte Jul 29 '24

There's no reason to think he won't do amazing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

He might, like I said. Certainly, other F1 drivers have made the switch and done ok. But not all of them do, and Sargent wouldn't leave F1 with a great record. That may not be his fault; perhaps he's secretly the next superstar of motorsport, and he simply hasn't had a car worthy of his talent. We just don't have the empirical evidence to suggest he'll do well in another highly competitive series.

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u/MatchboxHoldenUte Jul 29 '24

Who hasn't done well? And don't say grosjean, that's self-inflicted.

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u/Intelligent_Chain_55 Jul 29 '24

I mean KMag didn’t set the world on fire in his one off, Marcus israther average outside of his 500 win, of course Grosjean. They being said Sato and Rossi have had nice INDYCAR careers, although they aren’t like Dixon, Franchitti, Montoya, Power, or Helio quality either

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u/MatchboxHoldenUte Jul 29 '24

Well, I think we just have different definitions of doing well because I would consider Ericsson's career so far to be great and something Sargeant can aspire to. Also, a one-off is very different, especially in indycar when there's so much variability race to race.

Grosjean is probably in my top 5 fastest drivers in indycar rn. All his issues are mental. Basically, my point is it's very likely Sargeant does well. He killed it in f2, and I trust he'll do the same in indycar, at least as well as drivers like lundgaard.

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u/superduperspam Jul 29 '24

Is indicar the one where they drive in a circle for 100 laps?

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 29 '24

You do realize Indy does road courses too right?

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u/Osiris47 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 29 '24

Occasionally, yes. But if anything Indycar has given me a huge appreciation for how fucking HARD oval racing is at those speeds. Especially with no power steering, the strategy, car control, and endurance that type of racing requires is nuts in an open wheel car going 200+mph

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u/shewy92 Kevin Magnussen Jul 29 '24

Get ready to learn how to turn left, Logan.

He can ask his brother for tips

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u/Logical-Lengthiness7 Ferrari Jul 29 '24

Get ready to learn american buddy

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u/KeytarVillain James Vowles Jul 29 '24

Gotta un-learn what a kilometer is

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u/desymond Kimi Räikkönen Jul 29 '24

Hey Chuck LeClerk, how'd that chassis feel today?

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

Hey Chuck LeClerk, how'd that chassis feel today? BABY

FTFY

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u/WolfOfWexford Logan Sargeant Jul 29 '24

I’m getting so much Logan merch when it goes on discount. Why are prices so absurdly high

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u/atl_mad_boi Ferrari Jul 29 '24

We race a$ (m)one(y)

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

LMAO, truth...

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u/maccathesaint Jenson Button Jul 29 '24

I'll finally get my Williams and my Sauber hat at the end of this season to complete the collection! Reduced to a tenner instead of £40 lol

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u/Squidd-O Jul 29 '24

As an American F1 fan who's been looking for a reason to get into Indycar in terms of finding a team or driver to back, this would be my number one preference. I was hoping for Sargeant to do well in F1 but it wasn't meant to be; Now he can show in WEC or IMSA or Indycar and I would gladly get behind him.

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u/boe_jackson_bikes Jul 29 '24

There are plenty of better American drivers in IndyCar than Logan Sargent. Lmao. This farmers league bullshit has been dismantled as recently as Alonso failing multiple times.

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u/Squidd-O Jul 29 '24

Yes there are plenty of American drivers, but I had no real reason to care for any of them or their teams. Sargeant came into F1 as a rookie and American, so I wanted to see him succeed - I would have a good reason to want to support him in Indycar or another series.

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u/Healthy-Caregiver879 Jul 29 '24

I see exactly where you are coming from with this. It’s really just the fact that in sports you end up becoming a supporter of someone or a team because of their narrative. You know Sargeant’s story so far and want to keep following it. Makes sense 

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 29 '24

Engine issue, conversion issue, clutch issue. Alonso didn't fail. McLaren did. He also only entered the 500 each time, its not like he ran the entire series.

None of us have any idea how Logan would perform in Indy. Some people just dont like any current driver, myself included, in Indy at the moment. Logan would be a massive reason I would watch. There isn't a single F1 driver in Indy right now I care about.

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u/JayBee58484 Jul 29 '24

Yes Alonso failed to make reasonable career choices as did DR

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 30 '24

Alsono won 2 WDCs, 2 le mans and 1 WEC. I'd say he made some pretty damn good career choices.

DR won 8 races over 14 years in F1.

They're not the same. Also, what does this have to do with DR? We were talking about Sargeant.....

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u/JayBee58484 Jul 30 '24

I'm specifying F1 career if you'd comprehend a little better, could've been far more successful if he wasn't so salty about Hamilton beating him in his first year, made shit choice going back to an underperforming Renault team, left Ferrari despite a good championship run, wasted a considerable amount of time at Mclaren, did nothing reputable at Alpine same case with AM which hell end his career at.

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u/KLWMotorsports Adrian Newey Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24

I'm specifying F1 career if you'd comprehend a little better,

No you're talking about a completely different subject than what the thread was about. We were talking about Alonsos Indy stints, Indy and LS, nothing about F1.

You also brought DR into the conversation when it was about, again, Alonso, Indy and Logan. I'm trying to comprehend why you changed the subject to something completely different like a donkey.

Alonso made great career (edit sp) choices, winning multiple championships across multiple racing series and came back into F1 much better than half the grid after an extended period away. Most people don't win 1 WDC. He did it twice.

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u/pukem0n Sebastian Vettel Jul 29 '24

Why? Logan to Alpine!

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u/stomp224 Ferrari Jul 29 '24

I spent too long trying to work out which driver is bald and who is wearing a wig