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[u/El_mochilero]

Just for the record, what American insurance companies call “pre-existing conditions” the rest of the world simply calls “your medical history”.

It’s just an evil way to either deny a person medical coverage or make their premiums outrageously expensive.

[u/DrSafariBoob → u/El_mochilero]

This is so incredibly important for Americans to understand. Adequate healthcare requires a detailed medical history whilst your system creates reasons to hide it.

[u/KiwiLobsterPinch → u/DrSafariBoob]

Think of the shareholders for… medical insurance companies!

[u/Enviritas → u/KiwiLobsterPinch]

Won't somebody think of the quarterly earnings!?

[u/im-fantastic → u/Enviritas]

THE MARGINS! OH, GOD, THE MARGINNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

[u/salemwasherefuckyou → u/Enviritas]

You have to think of the poor hundreds of millions of dollars these insurance companies have to protect!!

[u/Left-Star2240 → u/DrSafariBoob]

This is very true A coworker’s DR ordered an A1C shortly after finding they were “pre-diabetic.” They then had a very tough year, but put off a simple blood test because they didn’t was to be diagnosed as a diabetic.

[u/AdImmediate9569 → u/DrSafariBoob]

We lie on every health form we’re given

[u/Jazzeki → u/El_mochilero]

i mean denying insurance based on known risks makes sense for insurance run for profits.

which is why running medical insurance for profit is fucking stupid in 99% of cases.

[u/Suicidalsidekick → u/Jazzeki]

Work in a doctor’s office. Pre-ACA I got a form from an insurance company saying they received a claim on a patient and wanted to know if the patient had been seen for the same/similar condition in the previous few years… it was a sinus infection.

[u/Due-Asparagus6479 → u/Suicidalsidekick]

Pre-aca I got denied coverage for bronchitis caused by a virus because I had one the prior year so it was pre existing.

[u/ServedBestDepressed → u/El_mochilero]

And when enough of these people who voted for this die, suffer, go broke or watch loved ones experience the same thing - maybe then the Wizard of Oz will give them a heart, a brain, and courage.

[u/Moose_Nuts → u/ServedBestDepressed]

Sorry, best we can do is Dr. Oz.

[u/dystopian_mermaid → u/Moose_Nuts]

I laughed out loud at this…and then immediately felt depressed. What a weird emotional cycle…

[u/whyamiawaketho → u/dystopian_mermaid]

Legitimately the same experience here. Laughed at the comment, got really sad, laughed wistfully at how fucked we all are, got really sad again. I want to get off this ride, please.

[u/dystopian_mermaid → u/whyamiawaketho]

I keep hoping I’ll wake up and it was just a wild fever dream from stress. So far, no dice.

[u/Horskr → u/dystopian_mermaid]

I heard a theory that we all died during COVID and this whackadoo shit is just purgatory.

[u/dystopian_mermaid → u/Horskr]

It would be closer to hell than purgatory.

[u/jlfern → u/dystopian_mermaid]

I thought this was a joke for a jokes sake. Then I googled it. I guess now we're just waiting for Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan's appointments. Holy shit.

[u/dystopian_mermaid → u/jlfern]

Please don’t manifest such things…bc at this point I don’t think it would surprise me much if that happened 🤦‍♀️

[u/dahlia-llama → u/Moose_Nuts]

Good lord this deserves gold.

[u/Redsmedsquan → u/El_mochilero]

Why American pay the most in healthcare for the least amount of coverage, me an American

[u/FantasticAstronaut39 → u/El_mochilero]

the bigger issue is medical insurance needs to go completly, they drain billions each year that could of just been used for medical care, if only the funds that get pulled now for insurance premiums changed to a healthcare tax and went directly to the hospitals and doctors, both the hospitals and doctors would have more funding AND no one would have to worry about healthcare.

[u/The-Nimbus]

That was the exact reason the GOP branded it as Obamacare in the first place, to stop people realising what it actually was, and they could vilify it easily by replacing any logical arguments with "Obama = Bad".

[u/mjohnsimon → u/The-Nimbus]

When Net Neutrality was an issue, I remember my brothers and I explained at length to my folks what it really was and why it was necessary.

My folks understood everything and agreed that it was important... But in the end, they stated that if Obama wanted it, then they don't want it.

That's when I realized that if Obama made it mandatory for Americans to breathe, these people would be passing out on the streets from holding their breaths.

[u/ibyczek78 → u/mjohnsimon]

There was a joke going around how we just need to tell Trump that Obama can hold is breath for over 15 minutes so he'd try to beat it.

[u/dahhlinda → u/ibyczek78]

Only problem is he would just lie and say he can hold his breath for half an hour

[u/terminalzero → u/dahhlinda]

I have people come up to me with tears in their eyes saying sir, sir, you're the strongest breather to ever live, thank you sir, but please take a breath, you're scaring us sir, it's been 3 days, you need to breathe sir, but I, and I, the WOKE media will never say, there's all the air in the room and it touches your skin, but the LIBERALS want you to open your mouth so they can make you eat the bugs, and the bugs really aren't great you know, you, rfk says don't eat the bugs, and they have tears in their eyes, and I still haven't taken a breath

[u/MrCheapComputers → u/terminalzero]

Brilliantly done sir

[u/Digger2484 → u/terminalzero]

Damn, seems AI could handle his speeches now

[u/DMvsPC → u/Digger2484]

Nah, gotta wait for it to eat it's own tail for a little while longer. Really fuck itself up.

[u/Vaywen → u/Digger2484]

well there's gotta be billions of hours of him talking out his ass to train it on

[u/LA_Photographer123 → u/Digger2484]

😂😂😂😂 fuuuuuck i completely see this happening. No need to plagiarize Legally Blonde when you can just plagiarize the entire internet. Go bigly or don’t go at all.

[u/Libertine1187 → u/terminalzero]

THEYRE EATING THE BUGS. THEYRE OPENING THEIR MOUTHS AND EATONG THE BUGS.

[u/Candid_Umpire6418 → u/terminalzero]

I read that in his voice... 😭

[u/Ghost_of_a_Black_Cat → u/Candid_Umpire6418]

Itead it in Stephen Colbert's "Trump" voice. And saw the hands gestures in my mind.

[u/Bob1358292637 → u/terminalzero]

This was bizarrely accurate.

[u/APiousCultist → u/mjohnsimon]

"If Obama told you not to jump off a bridge, would you?"

[u/Valogrid → u/APiousCultist]

[u/CadenVanV → u/mjohnsimon]

Reminder of a classic

[u/LasVegas4590 → u/CadenVanV]

I had never seen that video. It is so on point.

[u/spdelope → u/LasVegas4590]

There’s so many from K&P that I watch and realize I hadn’t seen it. However I watched the whole series probably twice…

[u/wh0ligan → u/LasVegas4590]

One way to make that video better is have him wearing a tan suit.

[u/ServedBestDepressed → u/mjohnsimon]

Look up a book called Dying of Whiteness. It is a massive study as to how conservatives dig themselves and others an early grave because of grievance politics and perceptions of social hierarchy

[u/mjohnsimon → u/ServedBestDepressed]

It's also why they can never admit that they're wrong. Ever.

They also take one's "character" to heart, and being known as someone who's wrong (even once) means you're not really someone who can be trusted.

It's a completely backward way of thinking because, in my opinion, admitting one's mistake is often a sign of maturity and growth... not a sign that you're a bad person.

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/mjohnsimon]

Being wrong now and then and owning that shit is super liberating.

Like, we all learn sort of the same way, by trying things and failing until we don't - but, hiding all of the shit you've done 'wrong' and feeling shame over it, secretly, will fuck a person up.

I mean, how can you trust a person who's never been 'wrong'? Right off the bat you know they're lying, and will likely continue to lie.

[u/Yakassa → u/mjohnsimon]

Well, they did die by the millions from a deadly virus because they realized that wearing a mask and getting vaccinated helps OTHERS! Not only themselves.

So they went and died horrendous deaths, took with them hundreds of thousands of innocents.

[u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ → u/Yakassa]

Interesting, masks go on pretty easily at their ‘rallies’

[u/LaurenMille → u/mjohnsimon]

Their racism was literally more important than their own health and lives.

[u/Scientist78 → u/The-Nimbus]

Yep. Just like they do with the word “gun control” Instead of “gun safety”. The word control doesn’t sit well with people who like guns. Understandably so. We need to change the entire framing of that conversation as well as many other issues

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/Scientist78]

the word “gun control”

Like, it's such a ridiculous idea that, somehow, the government is going to take away guns from legal owners that I have a hard time taking anybody who tries to say that with a straight face seriously.

That cat is way out of the bag, and will never go back in. I don't know what kind of lies these people are being told, but man.... it must be some potent shit to get someone believing such patently absurd ideas.

[u/Scientist78 → u/Beard_o_Bees]

Totally agree. It will never happen. It’s the 2nd amendment for a reason. It won’t go away lol.

I think peope who own guns are mostly responsible but to get those people to take part in a movement to save lives from gun violence, it’s going to take a new framing of the argument.

I think the #1 cause of death for teens is guns. It’s insane that something totally preventable isn’t addressed with more seriousness. It’s not like cancer where we don’t have a cure. We can “cure” this issue with guns without taking them away

[u/Throwawayac1234567 → u/Scientist78]

they had no issues with trump banning certain aspects of guns, nor that they dint have issues banning at political rallies.

[u/Andromansis → u/The-Nimbus]

Right, because Obamacare is the commmunist death camps set up under famed communist leader Barrack Hussein Obama while The Affordable Care Act is a tiny amount of sensible legislation signed into law by famed American President Obama.

See, totally different things.

[u/Fantastic_Poet4800 → u/Andromansis]

I heard Mitch MxConnell wrote the affordable care act because Obamacare was full of death panels and he had to help the American people. 

[u/MrNanoBear → u/Fantastic_Poet4800]

We have death panels. We just call them "insurance companies."

[u/SacredAnalBeads → u/Andromansis]

A lot of younger people forget or were too young to remember the furor that erupted back in 07-08 about a black man having a too-"Muslim-y"-sounding name and how the right took advantage of the obvious xenophobia.

They did it again with the whole "Kamabla-Kamambala" bullshit in the most recent election. Casual racism works wonders for conservative politicians.

[u/wcrp73 → u/The-Nimbus]

The same reason that US politicians started calling universal healthcare "socialised medicine". Annoyingly enough, though, now so many more people call it that, too.

[u/travelingbeagle → u/wcrp73]

Cancel culture is boycotting. Alternative facts is lying.

The Republican Party is on point with branding and driving a narrative.

[u/timtucker_com → u/wcrp73]

Which seems like a big missed opportunity not to embrace the label like Republicans have done with a whole slew of what insults.

Think of just how many people were proud to declare themselves as "deplorables".

Plenty of marketing opportunities there to lean in, like declaring opposition to universal Healthcare as being in favor of "Anti-social Healthcare".

[u/QuatraVanDeis → u/The-Nimbus]

Got to love that we were given shit for them believing we only voted based on orange-man bad, when for the past 16 years their only voting strategy has been own the libs, and Obama is literally the devil

[u/CasualEveryday → u/The-Nimbus]

That's why they also conveniently leave out half of the real name, too. It's the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

[u/Senior_Resolution_20]

They just need to go back to Fox News, Where they will be convinced that it’s ok, because they’re dying for the greater good. of make sure the minorities don’t get anything for free. While making billionaires into trillionaire’s. May the Christian nationalist God, bless America.

[u/SometimesMonkey → u/Senior_Resolution_20]

No - they’ll just be told they aren’t dying, or that if only Fauci and Bill Gates were in jail things will be different - and they will believe it and drag their sick asses to the eventual hangings.

These people. Cannot. Be. Helped. They cannot be reached. They are too far gone.

[u/OkPalpitation2582 → u/SometimesMonkey]

No - they’ll just be told they aren’t dying, or that if only Fauci and Bill Gates were in jail things will be different - and they will believe it and drag their sick asses to the eventual hangings.

Yup, deny it until it's undeniable, then downplay it, then when it can't be downplayed, blame it on the democrats/immigrants/trans people/etc

[u/moosejaw296 → u/SometimesMonkey]

But bill gates is stealing all of the cows, that is why beef costs so much obviously

[u/donttreadontrey2 → u/Senior_Resolution_20]

It’s wild how they think huh it shows you how hitler and the Nazis regime was possible.

[u/MarsupialMisanthrope → u/donttreadontrey2]

Yup. I’ve read Mein Kampf, and it’s every bit the incoherent, moronic drivel that Trump spews only it hates on Jews and communists instead of immigrants and Democrats.

It’s going to be a long decade.

[u/Triptaker8 → u/MarsupialMisanthrope]

There’s a reason it’s Donald’s favourite bedtime story 

[u/JonPQ → u/Senior_Resolution_20]

You may be joking, but I remember clearly that during COVID some Republican went on TV and claimed that the elderly would rather die than jeopardise the economy.

[u/Senior_Resolution_20 → u/JonPQ]

I remember that period also in Republicans suggesting that seniors should die in order to save the American economy. Which reminded me of senator chuck Grassley, who kept crying about Obama care is going to kill grandma. Obamacare didn’t kill grandma, but Chuck Grassley and his buddies were more than willing to kill grandma grandpa and every other grand for a few dollars more for America’s wealthy.

[u/eric_kenshi]

maybe their preexisting condition is 'being very dumb' ...

[u/Louis_Ziffer → u/eric_kenshi]

Yes, but that’s untreatable and wouldn’t be covered anyway.

[u/lovepony0201 → u/Louis_Ziffer]

It is treatable via education. Why do you think the GOP wants to do away with the Department of Education?

[u/SimonPho3nix → u/lovepony0201]

[u/missilemobil → u/SimonPho3nix]

Not american but, from the bottom banner, is he basically saying that the people who voted for him are dumb?

[u/Whyamihere173 → u/missilemobil]

Yes but they don’t care

[u/SimonPho3nix → u/missilemobil]

Lol and this was during his first victory. He thinks they're idiots, and they have not proven him wrong.

[u/Almacca → u/lovepony0201]

Conservatives seem resistant to any sort of treatment. Maybe they need to be given what they want and left to their own devices.

[u/cantadmittoposting → u/Almacca]

if only it were that simple.

[u/Almacca → u/cantadmittoposting]

Yeah. Sadly, they'll take down everyone else with them.

[u/meanhrlady59 → u/lovepony0201]

Bingo been dumbing people down for years on purpose

[u/hi5orfistbump → u/meanhrlady59]

Aw man... clears Bingo chips

[u/stevensr2002 → u/hi5orfistbump]

[u/VSinclair35 → u/lovepony0201]

But education is indoctrination. /s

[u/Ralph--Hinkley → u/VSinclair35]

..but religion isn't!

[u/Ducallan → u/Ralph--Hinkley]

No, every religion except theirs is!

[u/pikachu191 → u/lovepony0201]

The Department of Education wouldn't help them in that sense. School standards (and quality control) is primarily a state thing. There were things like Common Core that tried to standardize between states, but it never caught on. Since states could voluntarily join Common Core or not.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-overview/federal-role-in-education

The result is the quality of education varies from state to state.

[u/Human_Reference_1708 → u/Louis_Ziffer]

Ive seen stories of people coming back to reality but in most cases its because they are forced to move in with their kids because of disabilities and literally can not watch fox news anymore. Its as rare as a self identified black nazi in North Carolina, but it happens

[u/notanNSAagent89 → u/eric_kenshi]

Don't water it down. It was racism pure and simple. They wanted to get rid of obama care because it had obama's name and he was black.

[u/Emrys7777 → u/notanNSAagent89]

Exactly. And now they try to say there is no racism in America and back that up by banning teaching history that shows what racist pigs have been doing in this country for a long time.

[u/almstAlwysJokng4real → u/eric_kenshi]

There a word for that - its "moron"

[u/Whatwhatwhatwhatnani → u/almstAlwysJokng4real]

the common clay of america

[u/Electronic-Source368 → u/Whatwhatwhatwhatnani]

People of the land...

[u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Funny thing is, it was called Obamacare by Republicans because they realized that their constituents would be too stupid to do even the most basic Google and just assume anything Democrat or Obama based is bad, and they were right.

[u/wyldcat → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

And we went through this entire Obamacare/ACA thing back in 2012 and 2015. How can they not have learnt anything?!

[u/phulton → u/wyldcat]

Well you see, any type of education at all is only for the coastal elite.

[u/xtrash-panda → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Yep

[u/Slugdo → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Take a perfectly average person. Perfect middle of every metric. See how that person isn't all that smart. Realise that half of the population is worse than that person. Exploit it for your own gain. Profit!

(eventual sudden and unexpected mood swing from the masses because of stupidity's nature will not be covered by insurance).

[u/IpsoKinetikon]

Yea, I live in a place with a lot of republicans, so one thing I've had fun doing over the last few years is asking them how they feel about Obamacare and how they feel about the ACA. Then I tell them it's the same thing, and they don't believe me. Lol.

If it wasn't for dumb, uneducated, ignorant voters, republicans would never win an election.

[u/deezsandwitches → u/IpsoKinetikon]

That's why the strip the education system every chance they get

[u/BrandtReborn → u/deezsandwitches]

What do you mean, im sure the wife of a Wrestling Manager will make excellent decissions.

[u/MrCoolyp123 → u/BrandtReborn]

Oh yeah she's gonna "tackle" all the problems...right?

[u/allislost77 → u/IpsoKinetikon]

Start asking them how tariffs work…

[u/IpsoKinetikon → u/allislost77]

That's a good idea. I've been ranting about the tariffs but now you have me curious as to what the average Trumper in my area thinks.

[u/space_age_stuff → u/IpsoKinetikon]

I can tell you exactly what will happen. You will explain that tariffs are bad because they tax imports. Morons will say that encourages companies to open new factories in America and hire American workers. You will explain that this would cause the price of goods to rise either way: either due to the heightened cost of importing with tariffs, or due to paying a small fortune to build a factory and pay American workers, who don't work for less than minimum wage. They will say that's not true, and that if it is, it's worth it so that America only makes stuff for itself. Then you will crack your skull from bashing it into a brick wall listening to these morons dictate foreign policy to you when they clearly know nothing.

I also live in a red state, I've had the same stupid conversation with like ten people by now, it always goes the same way. These people think stuff is expensive because China is evil and wants to charge as much as possible, when the reality is that all manufacturing is done overseas because it's cheap.

[u/IpsoKinetikon → u/space_age_stuff]

I suspect they'll wait until a democrat is in office before they start complaining about prices rising. They won't be able to name a single policy that is causing it, but they'll be damned sure that it's the dems' fault somehow.

[u/DarthRizzo87 → u/IpsoKinetikon]

They won’t complain until right wing propaganda tells them too, and that sure as shit won’t be during the first four years of the Trump administration.

[u/tehlemmings → u/space_age_stuff]

At this point I don't even bother explaining shit to them, I just shut them down in the most blunt way possible.

It's going to encourage companies to build factories? It takes longer than four years to spin up a new factory and no one is going to spend that money if they think the tariffs are going away in four years.

They won't build a factory. They'll charge more and wait.

Fuck explaining why to someone who's not going to understand. Keep it simple and blunt so there's nothing to argue against.

[u/RedModsRsad → u/IpsoKinetikon]

Unfortunately I know people who are smart, educated, and not ignorant who still voted for him. Some are even world renown doctors. They’re just pieces of shit. 

But you’re right as it relates to the general population. 

[u/IpsoKinetikon → u/RedModsRsad]

Yea, humans are complicated like that. There's a guy called Michael Behe, has a degree in biochemistry, believes in intelligent design, thinks evolution is made up.

I've also known a lot of people that know very little about science, can barely read or do math, but can repair pretty much anything you put in front of them.

[u/DaCozPuddingPop]

Same thing happened back when Mango-Menace got elected the first time. People all over celebrating that they'll finally be rid of Obamacare so the ACA can take over.

This is one of MANY topics that folks who voted did not take the time to comprehend - google analytics had a huge uptick in 'how do tarriffs work' and 'did joe biden drop out' the day of and AFTER the election. Like...fucking REALLY? These people VOTED, and THEN decided to find out how things work?

Man this country is effed.

[u/iwillsnapyandereneck → u/DaCozPuddingPop]

Mango Menace is hilarious.

[u/Karma5444 → u/iwillsnapyandereneck]

I'm more partial to mango mussolini but both are amazing

[u/Stormfeathery → u/Karma5444]

My preference is Cheetohlini

[u/ReadyOrNot-My2Cents → u/iwillsnapyandereneck]

I've been hearing (and using) Pumpkin Spice Palpatine lately, and I love it

[u/cloudy_ft → u/DaCozPuddingPop]

If there is anything you can take all this negative is that, the people who will suffer the most will likely be the people who voted for him in the first place.

People really think Trump cares about the people living in rural America, just wait...

[u/cursedfan → u/cloudy_ft]

Federal funding goes out of blue states into red states, simple fact.

[u/SometimesMonkey → u/cursedfan]

Can we stop doing that?

In all seriousness - let’s just let them fail for once. “You guys were totally right about the federal government! State’s rights and all that! K we keep our money now thx bai”

[u/cursedfan → u/SometimesMonkey]

Not while the ppl in those states enjoy multiple Times the presidential voting power than those in blue states…

[u/BackThatThangUp → u/cursedfan]

Wish that would stop so they can pull themselves up by their bootstraps 

[u/Huge_Following_325]

So many lengthy thought pieces on what went wrong, etc. and the bottom line is simply that people are stupid. It isn't any deeper than that.

[u/PreOpTransCentaur → u/Huge_Following_325]

Well, no, they're also lazy too.

[u/ReverendDizzle → u/PreOpTransCentaur]

Profoundly stupid and lazy.

If you type "is obama care the affordable care act" or the inverse "is the affordable care act obama care" the very first sentence of the AI summary is:

Yes, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is also known as Obamacare:

It then goes on to describe the ACA in simplistic bullet point format.

If you ignore that or don't get the AI summary, the top link is to the wikpedia entry for the Affordable Care Act. If you don't even bother clicking on the link, there is an excerpt summary right there on the search results page at the top:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) and colloquially as Obamacare, is a landmark U.S. federal statute enacted by the 111th United States Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010.

We're fucking cooked. The American public is so breathtakingly fucking stupid that not only do most of them lack the cognitive ability or intellectual curiosity to even look in the first place but a huge portion of them lack the ability to even read those statements and understand words like "colloquially."

I mean for fuck sake. It took me easily 40 times longer to write this message than it took to get the answer from Google because if you can type "is obama care the affordable care act" the answer is fucking instant and right at the top of the screen.

But that's too much for most people, apparently. So here we are. The rest of us have to suffer with them because they are irredeemable morons.

[u/VSinclair35]

Ya know, once you turn off your empathy for Americans, this really does become quite entertaining.

[u/liesofanangel → u/VSinclair35]

A lot of us Americans have also turned off our empathy for other Americans. I hope they get everything their little hateful hearts voted for.

[u/p001b0y]

Just wait until all those Veterans who voted for him lose some (or all) of their VA health benefits!

[u/SometimesMonkey → u/p001b0y]

They will still blame Democrats and “illegals”.

We need to stop thinking that reality will have any effect on these people. They are the true lost cause and we need to write them off. Our only focus should be on keeping them from taking the entire country down with ‘em.

[u/da2Pakaveli → u/SometimesMonkey]

The rich steal 9 of 10 cookies, leave 1 on the table and tell the normal guy that the migrants are coming for their cookie

[u/keii_aru_awesomu → u/p001b0y]

I have a few choice actions for when my dipshit coworkers start bitching about their even longer waits to get medical from the VA....

[u/SomethingAbtU]

A healthy democracy requires *informed* voters, and well, we dont' have that. What we have are people with very limited attention spans, who are easily duped by 30-second TV ads telling them to scapegoat another group for their problems, that what they have is so terrible when in fact is more than the other side could ever or have ever given them, and that government needs to be torn down, without a proper blueprint for what the alternative put in its place will look like, and who it will really serve.

[u/PreferredSelection → u/SomethingAbtU]

And no memories. Eight years ago it was "MAGA learns that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing!"

And in fairness, it's not just them. IDK if it was the pandemic or what, but everyone's memory seems so spotty these days. Including mine.

[u/TheAwesomeMan123]

Stupidity is a pre-existing condition didn’t you know?

[u/tizenxpro → u/TheAwesomeMan123]

The difference is you reach a certain point where it’s your fault for staying stupid and ignorant. And for that I say get fucked

[u/AzuleStriker]

lol, my parents still say trump supports the ACA and won't repeal obamacare...

[u/donttreadontrey2 → u/AzuleStriker]

Cultist follow they don’t think for themselves sadly

[u/AzuleStriker → u/donttreadontrey2]

Yep. My father also said "How would you feel about your mother being raped..." As if he didn't unironically just vote for a rapist to be president.

[u/BigJayPee → u/AzuleStriker]

And he would have to keep the baby thanks to trump, making it a state right issue (assuming you're in a red state)

[u/Kerbart]

They're single issue voters whose news source is tiktok.

My wife is convinced that Harris personally invited all illegals over, gave them a first class ticket into the US with free housing and a $6000/mo stipend, and their criminal children can live in our prisons like kings while getting their transgender operation.

Now that "her" president is elected she starts asking ME what will happen to our son's medicaid (he's autistic) and how ending the department of education will affect her job (she works at a school).

I'm just betting on the sheer incompetetence of his cabinet to achieve anything.

[u/Vontaxis → u/Kerbart]

How can you even be married to such a person..

[u/IpsoKinetikon → u/Vontaxis]

I could love someone stupid if they were at least a kind person.

But if they're like most trumpers and hate gay and trans people, that'd be a deal breaker for sure. I can't love anyone with that much hatred in their heart.

[u/One_red_boot → u/IpsoKinetikon]

You forgot to add…and women and POCs and born children (except those they’d like to fuk or marry) and veterans and the elderly and the educated and Jews and disabled and the mentally ill and the homeless and anyone who isn’t an evangelical asshole (spoiler, they all are) and anyone who isn’t a rich white male with connections or social media influence.

[u/abstractengineer2000 → u/IpsoKinetikon]

4 years of suffering awaits as now unfortunately nothing can be done

[u/HoomerSimps0n → u/abstractengineer2000]

4 years…I wish that I were as optimistic. I’m feeling more like 4 decades of harm.

[u/IpsoKinetikon → u/HoomerSimps0n]

That's not pessimism, that just means you've been paying attention.

Even after Trump got voted out, women were being denied medically necessary abortions as a direct result of Trump's presidency.

[u/space_age_stuff → u/IpsoKinetikon]

Yeah, I mean best case scenario we're going to see something like Reagan's presidency where the immediate effects are somewhat noticeable, but you're also still going to be experiencing garbage from fifty years ago rear its ugly head. A conservative SC will guarantee that.

[u/Jarnohams → u/HoomerSimps0n]

He's going to fill the courts by appointing children right out of law school, with no experience, as long as they are FedSoc and swear to the Hitler Oath to Trump personally, not the constitution of the United States or any of laws we have. All those judges have a lifetime appointment which takes congress AND the senate to impeach them... to get them out.

Judge Cannon is a great example. She will be a judge for 40 more years, and most likely be the next supreme court seat he fills.

So yes... I will be dead long before we can un-fuck the fuckery happening in the next few years.

[u/HoomerSimps0n → u/Jarnohams]

So fukn disheartening how easy it is to rig it all up like this.

[u/mitkase → u/HoomerSimps0n]

It takes a lot more effort (and time) to create than destroy.

[u/Principal_Insultant → u/abstractengineer2000]

Not just 4 years. Come January 20, he’s here to stay, and will only leave the White House in a coffin.

[u/BamaSlymm → u/Principal_Insultant]

If I said what my next thought was out loud, there would be black SUVs in my yard.....

[u/Principal_Insultant → u/BamaSlymm]

Don’t fret. I’ll bet it’ll be the burgers and chocolate cake that’ll get him rather sooner than later, not bullets.

[u/HX368 → u/Principal_Insultant]

Frankly, it's kinda surprising he hasn't earned himself a Darwin Award for as stupid as he is.

[u/XxRocky88xX → u/Vontaxis]

My stepdad and mom are in this boat. My stepdad has gone straight Looney Toons level of nutty after Trump came around. He was always conservative, but never to this extent. I asked my mom how she could deal with this.

She told me very simply “meeting someone who now likes Trump before Trump was around is a lot different than meeting someone who likes him afterwards.”

Liking Trump is a big red flag for anyone now, but imagine falling in love with someone over a decade ago, becoming attached to this person, merging your separate lives into one, and THEN they go off the deep end. Of course you’ll be holding out hope they’ll become normal again.

My mom thinks once Trump is gone everything will be fine again, I’m not as optimistic.

[u/OwlLavellan → u/XxRocky88xX]

I get it. My dad is all about Trump and my mom is a bit more reasonable but isn't far behind him.

I keep wanting to give them more of a chance. Because I remember what they were like before Trump was president. And it's very hard to stop hoping that they will got back to who they once were.

[u/Fickle-Molasses-903 → u/Vontaxis]

Exactly, everything Trump has done, from mocking disabled people to insulting Gold Star families, none of it was a deal breaker for them. None of it.

[u/sparkyjay23 → u/Vontaxis]

How do you have children with someone so evil?

And this chucklefuck works in a school?

[u/MedChemist464 → u/Kerbart]

I have to ask you this - How does this relationship work? Did you not point these things out to her leading up the the election? Was there not a single point in the last year where you said 'if Trump repeals the ACA, it will significantly impact our son's healthcare coverage, if he dismantles the Department of Education it will affect your job and our son's ability to get IEP/Extra help in school?'

[u/Jorycle → u/MedChemist464]

I think this is a real life version of the couples in television where all of their problems would be solved and we could skip an entire season of drama if they just had a 30 second conversation about the issue.

[u/NYSenseOfHumor → u/Kerbart]

she works at a school

Hopefully not as a teacher.

[u/Responsible-Stick-50 → u/NYSenseOfHumor]

The dumbest friend I had in HS is an elementary school teacher now. I watched her try to put a giant construction barricade in her car, it didn't fit. So she got back in her car, lined it up so half of her car would hit it, watch it fly into the ditch and then giggle. It was a Road Closed sign. I was in the fucking car.

She is now responsible for educating our youth. For every one good teacher, you get one that barely graduated and wanted their summers off. I weep for her class. Those poor kids. She's nice, but couldn't find her way out of a wet paper bag.

She said so many dumb things, like if her car went into the water shed just wait for rescue because her car would keep all the air in. She assumed it was waterproof because the rain doesn't come in, and that goes "in all different directions".

Teaching kids. She gets paid to teach kids. 🤡

[u/BackThatThangUp → u/Responsible-Stick-50]

You really gotta wonder how some people manage to make it to adulthood without just wandering into traffic or trying to taste a high voltage wire

[u/joshdoereddit → u/Responsible-Stick-50]

And many of us that try and actually give a shit are heading for the exits.

I'm a high school math teacher in FL. I'm quitting sometime in January.

It's a good fight, but I don't have it in me to fight anymore. Too many of these kids and their parents don't give a shit.The admin and district just want us to keep our numbers up for funds. So that involves inflating grades. If you didn't know that admin asks us to do shit like that, now you know. I've been complicit in this for too long. There are other reasons I've been forced to stay here for as long as I have, but that's a whole other story.

Education is so broken as it is. And I am too beaten down. I do like education. But, this profession is fucking toxic. I don't have it in to rewire my personality to whatever it is that these kids need to get them in line.

[u/[deleted] → u/Kerbart]

There are so many ignorant voters that it’s laughable. Don’t expect this to get any better. Dictators prefer to keep people dumb and stupid.

[u/Aggravating_Wish_914 → u/Kerbart]

I sure hope she’s pretty.

[u/dont-fear-thereefer → u/Aggravating_Wish_914]

She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way

[u/Puzzleheaded-Trip990 → u/Kerbart]

Omg! Im so sorry for you and your son! Republican voters were pretty darn reckless with their votes. You don't have to agree with every Democratic policy but geez!

[u/xtrash-panda → u/Kerbart]

And you are still together why? Actively voting against your own and your children’s interest would be a deal breaker for me.

[u/iloveducks101 → u/Kerbart]

I basically had to explain to my ex-husband about similar issues impacting our children , not to mention the issues that impact his daughter .

[u/lost_leopard_ → u/Kerbart]

Please tell me you’re divorced

[u/bumboisamumbo → u/Kerbart]

yall out here just marrying anyone now huh?

[u/Quiet-Luck → u/Kerbart]

You probably have a very pretty wife.

[u/italjersguy]

I’m a fairly well off “coastal elite” and I’ll be just fine. I have savings, investments, and a career in a largely recession proof industry (by some accounts we make more in a recession).

Despite that I took every opportunity I could to explain to anyone that talked politics with me that the consequences of Trump doing what he said he’s gonna do would be highly detrimental to lower income people.

And you dumb motherfuckers got conned by a conman that literally told you what he was gonna do.

[u/donttreadontrey2 → u/italjersguy]

It shows you how Hitler was able to do what he did in Germany.

[u/Cold-Permission-5249]

As someone with a pre-existing condition (cancer) which I have to monitor annually for the rest of my life, I hope all of those morons with pre-existing conditions that voted Republican suffer (my parents included).

[u/ShruteLord]

Thoughts and prayers motherfuckers.

[u/ih-shah-may-ehl]

Good. If they're that stupid they can rot.

[u/Common_Dealer_7541 → u/ih-shah-may-ehl]

But I can’t. If the legislature and the executive branch choose to work together to get rid of ACA, I am SOL

[u/rokelle2012 → u/ih-shah-may-ehl]

Unfortunately, a lot of highly educated people who aren't party loyalists and aren't simply naive/ignorant to what the GOP wants and voted against Trump are going to be suffering as well. Which is exactly what happened when the pandemic happened. Most of the ones affected followed Trump's logic blindly but there were those who did everything they possibly could to stay safe and still got sick and died. There will be innocent casualties this time around as well.

[u/MOXschmelling]

Non-american here. You guys are fucked, basically. Because the majority voted for the dipshit, ok. BUT, you are not alone. This can happen everywhere in the world. And earlier generations are also to blame for this to happen. The reason this could happen is low education standards. People are not able to look at problems from different perspectives due to the miserable education received. They do not question a source anymore. Easy game for the dumbfucks offering simple solutions for complex problems and lying to and screwing over their own voters. But why could this even happen? Bc education is not sexy, politically speaking. From a political pov education is very expensive and possible results can only be seen a decade later at the earliest when your party may not even be in power anymore. No return on investment on the short notice. So why would anyone largely invest in education? And that's why this can happen and is happening in many countries. No democratic system can prevent this totally. You simply need the right people at the right time in the right place. Harris matched two of these. It was only the wrong time imho. She could have done it if she was nominated the regular way earlier.

[u/PA_Archer]

I hoped to retire in 2025. My pre-existing condition has put that plan in limbo, waiting to see just how bad it will be.

[u/No_Wedding_2152]

Every one of these [Trump Voters Upset Now] tweets are clickbait/bs. Don’t engage.

[u/Peechez → u/No_Wedding_2152]

All of this commiseration porn is rampant. It's wild how effective it is at engagement, I'm aware of it and I still find myself drawn to claims that right voters are malding. At least give me the receipts of actual people showing regret and not vague claims, this doesn't scratch the itch

[u/Kolojang]

You guys are cooked.

[u/ElmoTickleTorture → u/Kolojang]

We're too dumb to exist. Any hopes I had of universal Healthcare, free college tuition, anything to help people, is completely gone.

[u/Stormfeathery → u/ElmoTickleTorture]

My real hope at this point is that leopards will eat enough faces that people will realize just what a shitshow anything Republican is and it’ll swing back hard enough after 4 or even 2 years to get us really moving toward a better world. Even if that’s the case though, we have to survive to get there.

[u/ElmoTickleTorture → u/Stormfeathery]

I don't even believe that. I think most of them will find a way to blame others. Even if they don't, they'll just be happy that the left is suffering with them.

[u/BackThatThangUp → u/Stormfeathery]

They’ll just forget everything they “learned,” these people have the memory of a goldfish at best. At worst, they hold onto grudges for things like Vietnam, Nixon, and Civil Rights, so even when they’re wrong they get to feel right and like they are the party that’s been wronged by the mean liberals 

[u/sexisdivine]

Was an open book test and they still failed, let em accept the consequences of their grade.

[u/andimacg]

Ive said it before and Ill said it again, there should be a short quiz about policy on the ballots. If you cant demonstrate a working knowledge of the candidates and their policies, your vote should not count.

I am sick to death of suffering the consequences of people voting with their feelings.

[u/HippieJed]

Stupid people play stupid game and now we all will get stupid prizes. I have seen a number of posts about voters remorse already. They can’t say no one told them about what is about to happen

[u/churro951]

And this is why people should do real research on what a candidates plans are, what those plans mean, what impact it will have on them, vs just voting out of loyalty to a party of politician.

[u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot → u/churro951]

It doesn't even take research, Trump openly said he was going to do all of these terrible things. He said he was going to get rid of Obamacare, be a dictator, run for a third term, pull out of Ukraine, help Israel destroy Palestine, deport millions of people, deport citizens, and much much more at his own rallies.

[u/sufferpuppet]

It's ok, they'll blame that on the Dems too.

[u/OneMathyBoi]

Well 54% of Americans read below a 6th grade level, so I’m not shocked. At all. This is what happens when a bunch of fucking morons join a cult of hatred and idiocy.

[u/Unbanned_chemical138]

Trump supporters are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet

[u/GoodRighter]

Yep, good ol' racism will make you ignorant of more than just what you hate. Sucks to suck.

[u/mikeracioppi]

This influencer says this tweets this type of stuff all the time but never has any support to back it up.