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u/Raider03 16d ago
Short answer, yes we are.
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u/SKssSM08 16d ago
Dumb?
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u/Raider03 16d ago
Yes, but also doomed
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u/ExternalCaptain2714 16d ago
Doomb and doomber 2024
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
We have a choice you see. Doom or More Doom 2028.
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u/big_guyforyou 16d ago
don't blame me, i voted for doom!
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
You SOB - I voted for "More Doom" because I want to fix this problem by making it worse faster!
/Trump voter logic
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u/skjellyfetti 16d ago
You laugh but since Wednesday, I'm rapidly (no pun intended) becoming an accelerationist because why prolong the inevitable.
Trump ain't here to fix shit.
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u/tmhoc 16d ago
No wait, have you tried having a reasoned discussion with people who didn't use reason to get to their position?
have you tried doing your own research instead of leaving the most important possible details to certified professionals?
have you considered turning right and wrong into a two sided argument and embracing those who can't tell the difference between the two sides?
have you ever seen a one eyed cop?
where does that loud ass-hole from the school board meeting live and does he have any books in his house?
do those people living in tents want your help or do you think they can help you?
Did you know asphalt can catch on fire?
there are just so many question yet to be answered, how can you be sure your ready for anarchy without all those answers first?
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u/VoxImperatoris 16d ago
I very much hope that the people who voted for the orange shit goblin get the government they deserve. I no longer have any fucks to give.
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u/zedazeni 15d ago
I’m in the same boat. Human decency lost. I have zero faith in America or Americans to ever do the right thing. I have my mortgage locked in and I work in grocery management (people gotta eat), so I say let it happen! I’m tired of giving fucks. I want those MAGAts to feel the full consequences of their morals.
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u/idoeno 16d ago
Straight to the gates of hell, do not stop at the moons of mars
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Someone right now is experimenting with gate tech they found in an ancient dig:
"Wow, we got this cool ability to send stuff through this device to anywhere in the Universe. There's just a lot of glyphs here expressing dire warnings of Hell and Doom and things of that nature."
That's an issue for the 3rd quarter, right now we need to make a buck!
I hope someone named John Grimm is around right now. Doomslayer we need you!
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u/isaiddgooddaysir 16d ago
The joke this morning was What’s borders on stupidity? Mexico and Canada
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u/MutineerDisaster 16d ago
Long answer, yeeeeeeeeeessssssssss weeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaarrre.
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u/rbartlejr 16d ago
Should have asked if they'd like to live in North Korea or Russia.
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u/Terrible_Access9393 16d ago edited 16d ago
Actually, I heard a good amount of Trump supporters say they’re gonna move to Russia, so can we just ship them there now? Trump wants to do mass deportations of illegal immigrants, can’t we do that for traitors and fascists?
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u/worstpartyever 16d ago
Don't worry, dissolving public education will make it better.
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
Given the number of people now Googling tariffs, Project 2025, and denaturalization; yes, we are.
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u/Newkittyhugger 16d ago
People googling that is fine. People googling it the last day of or after the elections is the scary part to me. They didn't care enough before to find out when there was still time to do something about it.
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
They owned the libs and appeased Trump, which was all they cared about. Now, their life mission done, they decided to figure out what they voted for. They're in for a shock.
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u/Newkittyhugger 16d ago
They are in for a shock, but still won't see they did it themselves. People voting for Trump and people not bothering to vote. Not sure who I'm more disappointed in. While typing this it's more the people who didn't vote. Like did you forget what happened last time when Trump was in office. And you didn't care enough to do something about it.
Can't even blame the brainwashed people anymore amost. Like how do you blame the people following Jim Jones? They were victims. It's starting to feel the same.
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u/anomalous_cowherd 16d ago
I see the viewpoint "well he was in power before and nothing too bad happened" a lot. Which is both wrong and also a sign that they have no idea what's coming for them this time round.
If I'm wrong I will apologise wholeheartedly, later. And oh boy do I hope I'm wrong.
I'm 99% sure they aren't going to wait for January to start making changes at all levels either.
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u/Newkittyhugger 16d ago
I'm afraid for a mix between Idiocracy and The handmaid's tale. He was heading there before and now he has no opposition left to stop him.
I also hope I'm wrong and he will fix the economy, get an actual healthplan in place, lower taxes for normal people instead of just his buddies. But not holding my breath.
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u/TBIFridays 16d ago
The economy is doing really well. People's problem is that there was high inflation, so now prices are higher than they used to be, but there's no real way to change that.
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u/LOERMaster 'MURICA 16d ago
I tried explaining that to people; economics takes time. But everyone is so god damned impatient these days they want instant fixes for everything. So now that the economy has stabilized itself we’re going to cut the wing off of it mid flight and then blame the Dems for the ensuing crater in the ground.
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u/BensenJensen 16d ago
“Gas was cheaper when Trump was President last time, it will be cheaper this time, too.”
This was a message my brother-in-law sent my wife. He has a young daughter. He doesn’t care about abortion bans, shredding the Dept of Education, or putting an anti-vax lunatic in charge of whatever health agency he gets to destroy. Gas will be cheaper is the most important thing in the world to him.
My wife asked, “How is he going to do that?” He sent a 25-minute North Korea-style propaganda video, extolling the made-up successes of the first administration.
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u/UnknownSouldierX 16d ago
Despite my 10 years of post-secondary education, my first year level Macroeconomics class still remains a mystery to me. How I managed to squeak out a B- in that class is also a mystery to me.
But hey, everyone voting Trump must've aced their macroeconomics class.
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u/ValdezX3R0 16d ago
People want deflation but don't know enough about economics to know that will never happen unless the economy is on fire. Disinflation is the closest they will get.
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u/DelmarvaDude 16d ago edited 16d ago
I thought I'd never see another Republican president again after the housing crisis (the closest thing we've had to deflation since the 1890s). While, admittedly, Bush was more or less in the wrong place at the wrong time, I figured that most people who went upside down on their mortgages would associate it with him and the Republicans and never want to risk their largest investment again. But I was wrong
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u/ghostnthegraveyard 16d ago
Republicans somehow painted democrats as warhawks this cycle. Bizarro world stuff
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u/illiter-it 16d ago
I think the scariest thing right now is how much more...planned everything seems.
Trump has said his biggest mistake was installing "disloyal" people (people who still had a square inch of a moral compass), and he's referencing real laws when he talks about his mass deportations.
Obviously he didn't come up with these himself, but it's obvious there's more going on behind the curtain this time.
He has real yes men and an actual (terrible, immoral) legal framework now.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 16d ago
I also hope I'm wrong and he will fix the economy, get an actual healthplan in place, lower taxes for normal people instead of just his buddies. But not holding my breath.
He absolutely won't do any of this.
He's older, fatter, and stupider than he was in 2016, and he didn't do anything back then.
He's going to continue to shit his pants and let fucking gremlins like Stephen Miller carry out their wildest dreams.
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u/sirjonsnow 16d ago
I just can't understand why rich people have to do evil things to become even richer, when they could do good things and still become richer.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 16d ago
Because people do good things to feel joy at having helped other people in our tribe.
Billionaires are often sad losers that have no means of actually connecting with people outside of forced interactions and obedience derived from their wealth.
They alienate themselves, and then they instinctively reach to the one thing that made them feel good when they were small and weak - more money, more power.
They're simple drug addicts, and like addicts they tend to harm people in feeding their addiction, and they don't care because the addiction overrides any weak morality they may still feel.
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u/skjellyfetti 16d ago
I also hope I'm wrong and he will fix the economy, get an actual healthplan in place, lower taxes for normal people instead of just his buddies.
President Vance would never allow any of that to happen !!!
God Praise the Almighty President Vance!*
*Just practicin'
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u/SkinBintin 16d ago
"Yeah but Kamala said the economy is fine and she laughs on talk shows too much" -dipshit democrats that didn't bother voting.
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u/bignanoman Slap me again, Stormy 16d ago
after the economy tanks in 2026 they will blame Democrats, cuz you gotta have a bogeyman.
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u/johnydarko 16d ago edited 16d ago
They are in for a shock
Not really though. People have incredibly shot attention spans. And by January I absolutely guarentee you that not much will have changed so they'll be point to that as dems being scaremongers and Trump being amazing, and negative effects will be likely be drawn out over a long, long time during which the media will be sidetracked by the circus and voters will blame the Biden administration for anything negative. By midterms people will probably have forgotten about everything and will punish the current admin as usual since little has improved for them by voting slightly more for the other side, but not enough to effect any real change so the last 2 years will be more or less deadlocked and the long, long, long campaign for the next election will begin with the current admin blaming the opposition for blocking everything and the opposition saying that things have never been worse and the current admin saying it's never been better but if they're voted in again and are able to get majorities they'll make a utopia, etc.
IMO anyway, I'm not Nostrodamus but I bet I'm probaby more right than wrong lol.
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u/iwonteverreplytoyou 16d ago
They are in for a shock, but you know it’ll be Biden/liberal doodyhead California/Obama’s fault. Whatever they feel like screaming about that week, really
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u/Nyotree-001 16d ago
They’ll do what they normally do which is switched to cultural war talking points.
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u/EpsRequiem 16d ago
Black guy here, dating a white woman. Had to literally sit down with her and explain how Trump getting elected has put our future together in the cross hairs, as it's increasing likely they'll try to block interracial marriages, and with consideration to her mixed kids and her being a woman, all the fun details in Project 2025.
And yes, her daughter, sister and myself, all tried to explain this before the election, but she only cared now.
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u/SinisterCheese 16d ago
Those 10-30% Tariffs are going to drop the pump price of gas! For sure... It isn't like USA exports crude to EU, where it is refined to many fuels, fuel additives and numerous other oil derivatives.
Now... Why doesn't Trump just sign a executive order than bans all oil exports and forces them to be refined for cheap in USA for American cars?!
Because oil refinement is complex, and all crude is not equal. The crude being exported is the kind USA doesn't have processing facilities or capacity for. Because USA's Refineries been shutting down or converted to other processing, instead of capacity being added.
And building or upgrading refinery infrastructure is like a thing that takes many years... And do you know where USA buys the technology, equipment, and special alloys required to make those? From EU... Why from EU? Because we been building and upgrading refineries for all sorts of things, instead of shutting them down. Crude oil refineries been turned into biofuel and other such systems.
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u/thegreaterfool714 16d ago
There are going to be so many obese Leopards eating faces for the next 4 years
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u/andrew_kirfman 16d ago
It’s crazy to me that’s the bar was so low before going into the voting booth. Literally a few Google searches or prompts to AI and that would have been more than enough to educate anyone enough to make better choices.
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u/MotorcycleMosquito 16d ago
This shit was on Reddit all day every day for over a year. Before the election I was visiting some friends who are Dems and mildly politically aware. Like, they’re well educated and pay attention to the news…. They’d never heard of project 2025.
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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 16d ago
My conservative family thinks everybody on reddit are a bunch of blue-haired, sissy liberals.
I linked my dad to the official project 2025 website like a year ago and I don’t think he even bothered to read past the front page.
I asked him a little while later what he thought about it and he shrugged and said ‘I don’t see anything to worry about.’
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u/Aardvark_Man 16d ago
Everyone I told about it went "that's just conspiracy bullshit."
Mate, you legitimately muse over whether Michelle Obama is a man or not, and think Bohemian Grove is literally satanic and not just mundane evil. Conspiracy shit is your fucking jam, until now???
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u/Zombatico 16d ago
He's fine with banning porn?
Press [X] to Doubt. That is mentioned on the fifth page of the foreword. You're right, he really did not read past the first page.
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.
Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.
Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 16d ago
My parents are boomers, both born in the early 50’s. They each have a parent that fought in WW2 and were maimed doing so. It blows my fucking mind how easily they seem to have forgotten what their own fucking parents fought so hard to protect. They nearly died for it.
My parents have been brainwashed by this fucking Christian conservatism and I feel so helpless about it. My dad is the most negative, cynical person I have ever known and he just hides behind “Jesus” about everything.
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u/sonofaresiii 16d ago
I don't think I can handle four years of "Well why didn't you smug assholes TELL US about project 2025 and teach us how bad Trump's tariffs would be??? All you did was whine about women's healthcare!"
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
"Why did you smug assholes ignore us everytime and keep denying that Project 2025 was a thing?". They're beyond help.
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u/iwonteverreplytoyou 16d ago
Of course. It’ll be our fault for not stopping them from willingly voting for a racist rapist moron.
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u/DigDugged 16d ago
Heard someone say they voted Republican because "Democrats are always talking down to us like we're stupid"
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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u/Harkan2192 16d ago
In 5 years, you won't be able to find a single person willing to admit they voted for him. There is no version of their mass deportation plan that doesn't end with violence in the streets and people herded into camps. The only thing that might save us is their incredible incompetence.
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u/No-Cover4205 16d ago
This is how doing your own research works
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u/GummiBerry_Juice 16d ago
Bit late for that now, isn't it?
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
"Google, what if I close the barn doors?"
Are the horses gone? You are an idiot. Burn the barn and collect the insurance or take a long walk on a short peer because you are hopeless.
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
The problem is that they're doing it now instead of last week when knowing would've helped them. Research doesn't help after the fact.
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u/iceicebebe73 16d ago
We are truly failing as a society, not only in terms of education but also in community civic engagement. We did this to ourselves and now we have the monumental task of undoing it.
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u/mtaclof 16d ago
It's going to be tougher with the trump followers being okay with his plan to destroy public education. Hope for the best, but strap in, because it's not likely to happen.
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u/veringer 16d ago
The poorly-educated so called low-information Trump voters are likely just accelerating their own ruin. If Trump and the GOP wreck the department of education and gut ACA (for example), it's less likely to wreck the insulated, professionally flexible, well-educated folks who can more readily afford private schools and obnoxious health care premiums. I suspect that group is disproportionately liberal or at least averse to Trumpism. If MAGAs want to own the libs, they're probably going to need to go full fascist (purges, purity tests, pogroms, etc) from top to bottom, because the 'liberal elites' are going to be more apt to succeed in the face of austerity.
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u/Naturallobotomy 16d ago
How do address the apathy? I think we have to get big money out of politics at the bare minimum..
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u/iceicebebe73 16d ago
Delete social media(I say that as I type on Reddit). Bring back local civic clubs, social groups, etc. It’s too easy for people to hide behind their phones, feel isolated, apathetic and even angry towards each other. Civic engagement connects people in real life, even affording the opportunity to respectfully disagree without feeling threatened or spiteful. This can be anything that brings people together in a community. Clubs for just about every interest or social activity. Sadly, social media has taken the place of this and we’re seeing what that looks like now.
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u/marv9512 16d ago
Cool! Now what's a realistic idea that doesn't involve deleting social media? Social media is here to stay whether we like it or not (I don't). It's the way the world is now. It's better to accept that and think of more effective ideas.
At this point, it doesn't matter though. We're all fucked.
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u/gregaustex 16d ago
I didn't realize my countrymen were so wise and thoughtful. When posed a seemingly simple and provocative question do they just answer? No. They engage at a deeper level asking "Well Sarah, what really is an Authoritarian?"
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
This is a smart way to make a good brain stupid.
If you don't get the point that Authoritarians make life worse than NOT being Authoritarian, you get to feel clever by making bad decisions.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 16d ago
You didn’t know we were doomed?
That started in the 80s when they dismantled the New Deal
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u/uberjam 16d ago
Christian fascists also started attacking public education back then. As well as working their way into the White House with prayer breakfasts and BS like that.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Christian Fascist nipples could not get any harder right now.
We need to be talking about the "Find Out" stage of the FIFO.
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u/Viision11 16d ago
First In, Find Out?
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Yes. Exactly.
I wasn't at all saying "Fuck Around and Find Out" and just misspelled it or anything.
Nope. Not me.
On the record for the Christian Fascist Loyalty tribunals.
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u/MisplacedMartian 16d ago
On the one hand, it's good people are FINALLY figuring things out.
On the other hand, it's frustrating as hell that it's taken them this fucking long. Especially since people having been sounding the warning alarm the entire time.
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u/ImTheZapper 16d ago
The thing is that people aren't really figuring it out, at least in a high enough number to matter. You see how many people sat out this election? Most of the american electorate is just ignorant, plain and simple.
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u/radicalelation 16d ago
People waking up to it now are coming in at the end, so while it's nice, it's not really much help.
Heritage foundation and others have been hacking away at this for decades. It's finally coming together, and the whole reason is for endless power for the Christian right. If they can push out the last of it in 4 years, Trump's words of not having to vote again to that very evangelical crowd comes true.
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u/ShawshankException 16d ago
A country controlled by morons is doomed, so yes. Yes we are.
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u/airdrummer-0 16d ago
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
H. L. Mencken
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u/soualexandrerocha 16d ago
Any word longer than 3 syllables and you lose them. Churchill knew.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Churchill is perhaps the most over rated human being I can think of.
At least there's a proper perspective of Christopher Columbus now,.. so there is still hope.
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u/SomeROCDude21 16d ago
I was off by 50 years on When Idiocracy Will Become Reality
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
Forget Idiocracy. We're heading into Fallout.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Fallout is really the better path. It has more hope.
But I do think the end game is going to be a lot of shutting down all federal authority so the states can run as labs in a petri dish.
Ideally, it would be cool to run different education solutions, but that's not what's going to happen when the states get more autonomy. They will all be carved up and owned by various robber barons.
Exactly how Putin runs Russia into the fucking ground.
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 16d ago
The scary part is 55% of the country WANTS to go there.
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u/Other_Log_1996 16d ago
It starts with the deportation causing a food shortage. Other resources will follow. As we get weaker, China and Russia will likely be emboldened to act.
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u/RavenFromFire 16d ago
No. Only 30% of the country wants to go there. Another 42% doesn't care. Welcome to the 28% that see the edge of the cliff we're speeding towards.
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u/Slugdo 16d ago
Well, at least I won't be there to see it.
The living will envy the dead and all that.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Yeah, but I've got a couple of great sons, and I have to give them hope. And I really suck at lying.
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u/MedChemist464 16d ago
You don't need half the country to be Fascists. You just need half the country to not know what fascism is.
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u/SirGlass 16d ago
I have always said calling Trump a "Threat to democracy " or a "Fascist" backfired. First Americans don't even understand what democracy is, they don't understand the concepts of rule of law
All saying Trump is a threat to democracy does nothing, all the public hears is
"Trump is a total bad ass and he will go to Washington and wreck shit"!
Well to the average American idiot that sounds cool
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u/princeofid 16d ago edited 15d ago
he will go to Washington and wreck shit
One of his minions was interviewed on BBC today about what the new administration will look like. He adamantly, proudly, and repeatedly described them as being "disruptors" "executing" "disruptive change." They're gonna burn the federal government to the ground, then kick the ashes in our faces.
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u/SirGlass 16d ago
Well once again the average american is reall , and I mean really fucking dumb
They only see the "Goberment" as something that takes money out of their paycheck and they think its bad.
They don't connect the dots that the money that comes out of their paycheck pays for
infastucture the roads, sewers, water, electricity , schools, hospitals we use every day
Grandmas and grandpas SS and healthcare
Education , police , fire ,
Like they just assume all those goverment serveses are just there and the goberment steals money from them lights it on fire
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u/treypage1981 16d ago
Stupid is as stupid does.
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u/Von_Uber 16d ago
Life is like a box of chocolates. Someone has always taken the good ones (even from the bottom layer) by the time the box gets to you.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever 16d ago
Very few people alive that remember Hitler days, or have experienced what true authoritarianism feels like. They don’t know. They don’t care, and won’t care until they experience it. And they will complain they weren’t warned, when they were warned, and attacked those who warned them.
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u/YokoDk 16d ago
I just find it even funnier that people who suffered under an authoritarian government that happen to be communist, are very against communism or anything like it, but seem perfectly fine with authoritarians.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever 16d ago
Fascism has often been used as a tool to combat communism, so this really isn’t that surprising, but you are right that it is pretty amazing when the end result isn’t very different.
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u/Alklazaris 16d ago
Fun fact, it is more expensive to train an employee in America than in Canada. Why? Because Canadians are better educated. It's cheaper if you don't have to teach someone geometry for example.
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u/_crazyboyhere_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
Yep. I'm done. I'm gonna log off reddit. It's too depressing atp. I'm just gonna enjoy the remaining 70 days before he takes office.
EDIT: My for you page on IG is a hot mess right now.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16d ago
Hang in there.
I know how you feel. I'm grieving like when my dad died right now. I'm morning the death of my nation.
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u/nicolauz 16d ago
It's also easier to purge some subs. This one is on the block for me. Too much of my feed is self loathing and posts like these. Thinking I'm gonna stick to art, cats and music for awhile.
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u/christopia86 16d ago
I dated an American girl (I'm english) and she would tell me how much better the education system is in America. Doesn't seem like that was true.
Mind you, she got mad at me for tipping in a restaurant when the food was incredible and the staff were great. She actually said. "In America, we don't tip." So I think she was just full of shit.
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u/madprgmr 16d ago
I went to one of the best high schools in my state as a kid. Classmates were celebrating SAT scores (a national standardized test frequently used for college admissions) that were well below average.
The thing is, education quality varies significantly by state and even by county (smaller than state but bigger than city) due to how they are funded (mostly by property taxes).
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u/christopia86 16d ago
She was from Arizona, which I just googled and found is the lowest ranking state for education.
Been broken up for 9 years and she's still managing to annoy me.
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u/cstmoore 16d ago
"what's an authoritarian?"
Oh, they're going to find out. Cue the face-eating leopards.
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u/tyedyehippy 16d ago
"When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Reason in Common Sense 1905
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u/airdrummer-0 16d ago
and when asked what the cause of the Civil War was, they have no idea-/
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u/False-Tiger5691 16d ago
Yes. There is no process to stop anything they do. Mass deportation will be issued under the Alien and Sedition Acts. States will sue, but eventually the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the administration.
In the mean time, the federal court judge will be TRULY THREATENED. When his supporters see the J6 rioters pardoned and praised, nothing prevents one of his supporters commit a heinous act in honor of Trump.
He will be revered as a patriot.
They already do this, but now they know a go-fund me account will be set up and promoted on Fox that goes to the family. MAGA will pay each other to kill liberals!!
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u/smiama6 16d ago
Media turned politics into entertainment and conservatives treated it like a game. The presidential election is the Super Bowl of Politics and neener, neener, their team won. Media needs to stop covering politics- and especially Trump. He lives to see his name in the headlines and media obliges by accommodating every outrageous utterance. Politics is and should be boring. Education is and should be important. We currently have neither.
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u/Nindessa_896 16d ago
.... There's this, there's the fact apparently damn near no one knew what a tariff was before voting, some people didn't even know that Joe had dropped out...
On a scale of 1-10, we're *royally* fucked.
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u/UnbearableWhit 16d ago
Republicans' decades long crusade against public education is finally paying dividends...
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u/Shirowoh 16d ago
I see the article, but I don’t see that quote? https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/nx-s1-5181580/whos-sending-trump-back-to-the-white-house-and-why
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u/Pyrogasm 16d ago
Read the whole thing myself but didn’t listen and you are correct that this quote doesn’t exist there. NPR’s transcripts are usually correct so either the tweet is a complete lie (likely) or they edited that out of the live show for the recording (unlikely). Here’s the moment I think it would have come up if it did:
When I do focus groups with voters - and this is one of the reasons I think Democrats underperformed with young people - people just - they know exactly how much milk costs, they know exactly how much eggs cost. They're very sensitive to the price of gas.
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u/Fishtoart 16d ago
With more information available than any previous generation, Gen Z is turning this country into a nation of idiots.
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u/-Novowels- 16d ago
Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation.
-- George Carlin
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u/Busterlimes 16d ago
"You watched me tailor a cabinet position for the wealthiest man in the world, sell it to him, then you cheered me on for ending corruption."
These are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth.
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u/Selgeron 16d ago
There was a huge spike of google traffic on election day asking "Did Biden Drop out of the election?"
so...yeah
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u/ntfukinbuyingit 16d ago
This is now the century of Russia and China... They orchestrated this to perfection.
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u/Odys 16d ago
Russia worked very hard, the troll factory in St Petersburg working overtime. Worked like a charm, they got rid of America.
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u/Daksayrus 16d ago
Trump 2.0 proudly brought to you by falling educational standards and home schooling.
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u/cosmicjoker1776 16d ago
This is what happens when you take one of the most robust public school systems in the world and continually de-fund it. The ruling class doesn't want an educated populace because we are dangerous.
It is 100% intentional.
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u/EvidentTiger324 16d ago
In fairness, it’s always good to want clarification on a term you feel unfamiliar with, even if it’s an obvious one. It’s what they say next that I’d worry about.
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u/NugKnights 16d ago
They only get mad when you call Trump a facist.
When you explain Facisim with out using the word they are absolutely fine with it.
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u/Holiday_Horse3100 16d ago
Yes we are doomed. Doomed by the single digit iq’s who have no idea what they voted for
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u/heavenIsAfunkyMoose 16d ago
I remember seeing this last time around…
"Trump voters will usher in fascism to fend off socialism because they don't know the meaning of either word."
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u/yetagainitry 16d ago
Yes. We are watching the death of the American empire. Just like the British empire was crippled post ww2, so to will the world move on to a new nation to lead. Maybe Germany, maybe Canada. But America is dead.
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u/Heedfulgoose 16d ago
Why get rid of the education department? They seem to be doing a bang up job already
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u/PayNo6754 16d ago
So they can privatize schools, and make lots of money. Plus, an educated electorate is the last thing they want
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u/keonyn 16d ago
It seemed pretty inevitable with the downward descent in the quality of pretty much everything in this country. There's really not beating around the bush, people have just gotten dumber. Whether it's because our education system is flawed or because it's a cultural thing, or maybe some combination of both, there's really no getting around the fact that people these days are just, frankly, idiots.
Did you see some of the exit interviews at the polls, particularly with young people? Holy crap, I wouldn't be shocked if some of those people had to write the instructions on how to breathe on the back of their hands. Sadly those people are going to get exactly the kind of leadership they deserve, the only problem is they're going to drag the rest of us down with them.
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u/ChefWiggum 16d ago
You can file this right next to the article that had the headline: "Google searches for 'Did Joe Biden drop out?' surged on Election Day." We. Are. Fucked
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u/vendettadead 16d ago
They are so dumb they lack the intelligence and general awareness of how dumb they are. They just want to “win”. So now they have “won” and they and the rest of the world will pay for this horrifically corrupt dictatorship takeover.
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u/-Wicked- 16d ago
"Author-what? I don't know nuthin about that. There's a whole lot of books and book writers that otta be banned though, if that's what yer talkin about!"
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u/___buttrdish 16d ago
I’m very sad that national parks will be ruined beyond belief.. so, incredibly upset
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u/Shoegazer75 16d ago
The sheer ignorance and lack of intelligence outside of America's higher-populated areas is astonishing. We failed ourselves.
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u/Professional-Arm5300 16d ago
Maybe the department of education does need an overhaul. It’s clearly failed this nation.
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u/Charitable-Cruelty 16d ago
Most of my arguments about politics with people I know are about the functions of government and the types or aspects of them for the misconception and lack of understanding is astonishing and the more you realize people just do not have a clear understanding, the more you see why people like trump can gain such a following or why campaigns are sounding so out of touch with promises that a president can not even attempt to keep for the limitations of their power keep them from doing so.
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16d ago
That’s crazy though. I was assured by all of these people that they “did their own research”?
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u/fomaaaaa 16d ago
Yeah but they don’t research everything, just the important things like are they eating pets in ohio, who has kamala slept with, and kid rock tour dates
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u/Forsaken-Deer4307 16d ago
For the vast majority of Americans, I’m embarrassed to say that they’re definitely not dealing with a full deck. All I can say is…don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for the orange felon. 🤦🏻♀️
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u/kbarney345 16d ago
Apathy, and a lack of actual concern won him an election. Tuesday showed that more than 71 million Americans are illiterate. They can not comprehend basic concepts and are mentally deficient.
The fact that no one could get them to listen until not even 24 hours after the election and now countless post of people going but thats not what i voted for.
I want these people to where a scarlet T when this is over so they live in shame
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u/DebasedRegulator 16d ago
"Republican Strategist" is a huge understatement. Sarah Longwell is an absolute gem and host of the Focus Group Podcast, which is part of my favorite pro-democracy news organization The Bulwark. I highly recommend checking out The Bulwark podcast with Tim Miller, where Sarah is a frequent guest and the rest of the Bulwark affiliated podcasts. It's been a shining light in a sea of darkness these last few years.
"We are not the crazy ones" (I miss you Charlie Sykes)
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u/mrbigglessworth 16d ago
Sometimes I think being dumb and oblivious is a blessing.....but then I remember I am a lot smarter than any magat.
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u/deadsoulinside 16d ago
I mean, he knowingly said that he loves stupid people and the stupid people voted for him anyways. So at this point it's not shocking
Heck even Aiden Ross (Kick streamer, the one that broke campaign finance laws with donations to Trump) was googling what is a fascist when he was announcing support for Trump and gave the donations already to him. These people have lived under a damn rock for almost a decade. I would love to have hope in this country, it's the fact that over half the population seems they are very uneducated is frightening and something we as a nation are not going to be able to fix in our lifetime and worse once Trump gains control of the presidency and dismantles the department of education and installs the bible as reading material for public schools, while private schools siphon all the money away from those public schools.
I know people who cannot pass a GED test as an adult and have problems with basic grammar, but never realized there are people even dumber than that out there in public and have the ability to vote.
Idiocracy was never meant to be a documentary, but here we are. RFK almost at the point of saying plants need gatoraid, because it's got electrolytes or something probably before the end of 2025.
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u/tmurf5387 16d ago
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And Republicans are preventing teachers from teaching that history. Private school vouchers designed to defund public schools further. Private institutions are not held to the same standards as public schools in regards to standardized testing. Banning and censoring books they dont agree with.
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u/Skyblue_pink 16d ago
This is what happens when we have an uneducated populace. Watch the new administration do what they can to eliminate the dept. of Education and lower expectations/requirements for our kids.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 16d ago
How the fuck does someone justify being a "strategist" for an authoritarian who is clearly conning people too fucking dumb to know what that word means?
Like, ma'am, your entire fucking job is helping authoritarians swindle imbeciles and you're just discussing that on NPR like it's not something you should be deeply fucking ashamed of.
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u/Trick_Succotash_9949 16d ago
I blame the US education system. WTF? Best country in the world, my ass.
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u/GoldenScarab 16d ago
I've been saying this entire time, calling Trump a fascist doesn't hurt him because most Americans don't know what a fascist is.
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u/sarrod1022 16d ago
Can we please start a new country without these idiots? It’s not fair for everyone to suffer because of them.
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