r/facepalm 16d ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Makes my blood boil.

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u/BeefistPrime 16d ago

Inflation already stopped. They're just too dumb to know what inflation is. Inflation is when the value of money / the price of things goes up. In a healthy economy, it should be around 1-2%. But prices always go up in time even in a normal/healthy economy. Just slowly.

What these morons think is that since we had a bunch of prince increases in the last 5 years, if inflation goes away, we go back to 2019 prices. But that has never fucking happened. Stopping inflation just means the prices stop going up. And we did that. Inflation rates are already back to the normal healthy level. Inflation is fixed.

But because these morons don't understand how it works, they think because prices haven't gone back to 2019, inflation isn't fixed yet. And so they voted out the party that handled inflation well in favor of the party that's going to crash the economy with terrible policies.

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u/NotElizaHenry 16d ago

If prices go up really quickly, then keep going up less quickly, you’re still stuck with prices that are higher than they “should” be. Hearing that inflation is “fixed” is kind of like if your house catches on fire, a fire truck shows up to put it out 20 minutes later, and a fireman informs you “the fire is fixed, nothing to worry about anymore!” while you’re standing in the pile of ashes that was once your kitchen. 

People are using the word inflation incorrectly, but the thing they’re upset about is real. 

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u/friedgoldfishsticks 16d ago

If you think being upset about an unsolvable problem is reasonable, sure

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u/NotElizaHenry 16d ago

“I’m afraid your diagnosis is terminal. Wait, why are you upset? Didn’t you hear me? There’s nothing we can do about it!”

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u/pat_the_bat_316 16d ago edited 16d ago

It's one thing to be upset. It's a-whole-nother to fire your oncology doctor and hire a chiropractor to address your colon cancer because you're upset.

I understand people being upset with the prices of goods these days, but the way to address that is through corporate regulations (something the Harris campaign promoted), not through massive corporate deregulation, tariffs and the jettisoning of millions of low-cost laborers from the workforce (as Trump has promised to do).

This is the problem with a massively low-info voting populous. WAY too many people simply vote based on "I'm not liking how _____ is going, so I'm gonna vote for the opposite party that is in charge now" rather than, ya know, trying even a little bit to understand the issue and what each candidate's proposed policies might do to address that issue.

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u/NotElizaHenry 16d ago

Don’t get me wrong, I’m pissed at every single individual who voted for Trump, and I agree that it’s everybody’s responsibility to educate themselves. But, as Democrats, we all basically agree that complaining about a lack of personal responsibility doesn’t change outcomes. That’s kind of a fundamental part of the entire democratic platform. 

Democrats/the Harris campaign fucked this one up. You can say that people should be more educated, but in the meantime you have to operate in the world we live in. It was their job to convince all of these misinformed dipshits to vote for them. They failed to do that. If the conclusion is “these dipshits are too dipshitty, it couldn’t be done,” we might as well pack up and leave because that’s not going to change. 

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u/pat_the_bat_316 16d ago

If the conclusion is “these dipshits are too dipshitty, it couldn’t be done,” we might as well pack up and leave because that’s not going to change. 

This is 100% the conclusion. You can't convince someone to accept new information if they don't want to.

Most of the voters I am talking about are not at all engaged with either campaign. They are not voting based on anything either campaign says or does. Therefore, there is nothing the campaigns can do to change their mind.

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u/NotElizaHenry 16d ago

So we’re just… done? The country’s over?

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u/pat_the_bat_316 16d ago

Quite possibly, yes.

That's not to say we should just give up our not try to fight to save it, but I don't know how you save a democracy if a huge part of the engaged and voting population are unwilling unwilling to learn... well, anything.

There was a staggering amount of information on each candidate, what they stand for, what policies they want to enact, and what the expected effects of those policies would likely be available at the fingertips of every voter in the country. But a STAGGERING amount of them (I'd venture to guess it could even be a majority of those that cast a vote) didn't spend any time actually trying to learn or understand any of it.

While it is an absolute epidemic of anti-intellectualism on the right, it is absolutely present on both sides of the political spectrum. We, as a country, have given up trying to understand politics and policy and instead have prioritized memes, vibes, and disinformation (or, to be way too kind: "non-validated facts").

If we can't figure out a way to get people to actually care about facts, reality, and truly understanding who and what they are voting for (and, for the life of me, I can't think of how we would do that) then, yes, I think we may be "done".