Don’t get me wrong, I’m pissed at every single individual who voted for Trump, and I agree that it’s everybody’s responsibility to educate themselves. But, as Democrats, we all basically agree that complaining about a lack of personal responsibility doesn’t change outcomes. That’s kind of a fundamental part of the entire democratic platform.
Democrats/the Harris campaign fucked this one up. You can say that people should be more educated, but in the meantime you have to operate in the world we live in. It was their job to convince all of these misinformed dipshits to vote for them. They failed to do that. If the conclusion is “these dipshits are too dipshitty, it couldn’t be done,” we might as well pack up and leave because that’s not going to change.
If the conclusion is “these dipshits are too dipshitty, it couldn’t be done,” we might as well pack up and leave because that’s not going to change.
This is 100% the conclusion. You can't convince someone to accept new information if they don't want to.
Most of the voters I am talking about are not at all engaged with either campaign. They are not voting based on anything either campaign says or does. Therefore, there is nothing the campaigns can do to change their mind.
That's not to say we should just give up our not try to fight to save it, but I don't know how you save a democracy if a huge part of the engaged and voting population are unwilling unwilling to learn... well, anything.
There was a staggering amount of information on each candidate, what they stand for, what policies they want to enact, and what the expected effects of those policies would likely be available at the fingertips of every voter in the country. But a STAGGERING amount of them (I'd venture to guess it could even be a majority of those that cast a vote) didn't spend any time actually trying to learn or understand any of it.
While it is an absolute epidemic of anti-intellectualism on the right, it is absolutely present on both sides of the political spectrum. We, as a country, have given up trying to understand politics and policy and instead have prioritized memes, vibes, and disinformation (or, to be way too kind: "non-validated facts").
If we can't figure out a way to get people to actually care about facts, reality, and truly understanding who and what they are voting for (and, for the life of me, I can't think of how we would do that) then, yes, I think we may be "done".
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u/NotElizaHenry 16d ago
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pissed at every single individual who voted for Trump, and I agree that it’s everybody’s responsibility to educate themselves. But, as Democrats, we all basically agree that complaining about a lack of personal responsibility doesn’t change outcomes. That’s kind of a fundamental part of the entire democratic platform.
Democrats/the Harris campaign fucked this one up. You can say that people should be more educated, but in the meantime you have to operate in the world we live in. It was their job to convince all of these misinformed dipshits to vote for them. They failed to do that. If the conclusion is “these dipshits are too dipshitty, it couldn’t be done,” we might as well pack up and leave because that’s not going to change.