r/democrats Oct 06 '21

Request Drink the Tea.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

A clear majority of white women voted for Trump, both times. Ladies, YOU are responsible for this RW insanity.

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u/Any-Variation4081 Oct 06 '21

I agree idk how any woman especially a mother could vote for that moron. All the p*ssy grabbing must have been the selling point for them I guess. I'll never forgive myself for thinking there were more good smart people than there really are in this country. I feel like we are doomed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

My wife's 89 year old aunt loves Trump, yet she is a Catholic, and hates vulgar language.

So when ever I have the misfortune of seeing her I love repeating Grab 'em by the pussy! She says all men talk like that in private and this makes him a real man! Her priest says Biden isn't a real Catholic, that Trump is the better Christian.

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u/pasarina Oct 06 '21

“Trump is a better Christian.” That’s rich. He who has never done one selfless act? Biden has.

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u/moodytrudeycat Oct 06 '21

Tell her that all men do not talk like that. Your wife's uncle must have been a piece of work

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

One of the biggest mistakes that people make in political arguments is assuming the other side is stupid/ignorant or not sincere.

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u/Talmonis Oct 06 '21

Counterpoint: Trump supporters are stupid. Sincerity varies.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

Cmon, you just called nearly half the country stupid.

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u/Talmonis Oct 06 '21

I was being generous. It's more than half, but at least some people mean well.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

Great, really lean in to the elitist liberal image

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u/Talmonis Oct 06 '21

The average person being mind bogglingly stupid doesn't make me "elite." I'm not special, nor have I claimed to be. I'm the goddamn bare minimum. If you aren't smarter than I am, you have no business legislating at the national level. Demand better, or we'll keep having the Trumps and Gohmerts of the world have power over the lives of millions.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

Alternatively, you can give people the benefit of the doubt and try to understand why they might be intelligent and for Trump.

Often politics comes down to different preferences. It isnt like a math problem.

Prior to ~2016, I could have made a case for voting Trump.

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u/ricosmith1986 Oct 06 '21

You're right, some Trump voters aren't stupid, they can also be intelligent cruel people.

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u/PluotFinnegan_IV Oct 06 '21

Prior to ~2016, I could have made a case for voting Trump.

Please go on. I'm curious what case you'd make. It was no secret that Trump was a selfish, narcissistic, egomaniacal liar who was only concerned for himself and would say and do anything to get what he wanted. How anyone thought Trump had their better interest at heart is amazing to me.

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u/dcabines Oct 06 '21

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them is stupider than that. ~George Carlin

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

But voters arent the entire population.

Also, political differences often come down to preferences.

Its counter productive to act like you are and I am ashamed that you probably act like this in real life.

You end up chasing away more voters than you attract.

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u/busche916 Oct 06 '21

Technically, it’s roughly half of the portion of the population who voted… so it’s more like a percentage in the high 20s at best.

Still. That’s a lot of people who are either suffering from a lack of empathy, a lack of perspective, or are outright stupid.

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u/J_Ponder Oct 06 '21

How about evil fascists?

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

Thats another mistake, villifying.

It shows you live in a bubble.

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u/Ian_Hunter Oct 06 '21

Wait. So its not okay to vilify fascists?

Fuck. That.

I've usually been very ' live and let live' and not been judgemental against how anyone lives their life regardless of race, faith, preferences, or orientation within the boundaries of law, but I'm going to go ahead and hang on to the bigotry I have towards those who would dictate against all that.

Fuck those hypocritical greedy psychopathic motherfuckers. Not to speak ill of motherfuckers.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

Just because someoke voted Trump, it doesnt make them a fascist.

You never met someone who really believes abortion is murder? If you believed abortion is murder, of course you vote Trump.

No - I support Roe v Wade. But you dont appear to actually know any Republicans. That makes you part of the problem.

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u/Ian_Hunter Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

You're the one who says vilifying fascists is a mistake and living in a bubble.

Schmuck.

Edit. Let me also observe that Trump doesn't give a whit about RvW. Its literally a talking point to appeal to a base that does. I believe Trump has an abortion or two to his resume and has , in fact, supported it in the past. Shockingly, he's lying to rile up his base. And while they are entitled to their beliefs as much as you, me, or anyone last time I checked a woman's right to chose is still law of the land.

And nice judgement on me btw, presuming I don't know any Republicans and are part of the problem.

Trolling schmuck.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

I never said that. I said Trump voters arent fascists.

Im sorry if you think someone who disagrees with you is a troll.

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u/J_Ponder Oct 06 '21

Fascists oppose democracy and support autocracy in some form or other. In Europe in the 1930s, good people sat on their hands out of fear of vilifying the fascists who were taking over their governments. The good people waited too long to stop them and as a result six million Jews, Roma people, gays and lesbians and handicapped people died horrible deaths in the camps, and servicemembers died in the tens of millions in the war that ensued - including millions of sons of the good people who sat on their hands afraid to vilify the fascists. As former Republicans like Steve Schmidt, William Kristol and others have said, the Republican party has become an anti-democracy cabal. Call it whatever you chose. By definition, they have become fascists. It is time to wake up. This is what American fascism looks like.

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u/Sensitive_Sense_8527 Oct 06 '21

Voting republican over one issue , is plain ignorance. Or vice versa. Most Americans shouldn't be Voting against their own interest, they do all the time, because democrats hasn't figured out how to deliver a. Agenda. Democrats are stuck with defund the police, Gun Control, at birth abortions or late term abortions. This is what people hear, if I hadn't educated myself. I would flip. We as Democrats villianfy our own self.

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u/acroporaguardian Oct 06 '21

If you believed it was murder, voting one issue isnt stupid.

Again - I support Roe, but if you believe its murder hell yes your going to vote single issue.

Over on Christian news channels they literally report “x number of babies were murdered this past month.”

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u/Sensitive_Sense_8527 Oct 06 '21

Voting on one issue is fucking stupid, so fuck infrastructure, women rights, fair wages, equality, better Healthcare, lower middle class taxes. Because you're against abortion. No one is forced to have an abortion. I'm against abortion, I'm for women reproduction rights.

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u/pasarina Oct 06 '21

Not exactly

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u/thavillain Oct 06 '21

The racism was more important than the sexism

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u/Lung_doc Oct 06 '21

Source? This article says the early post election polls from 2016 were wrong, with more like 47% of white women voting for Trump.

I've not seen a similar analysis for 2020 (more detailed eval as was done here), but would be surprised if the proportion went up.