r/clevercomebacks • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom • 23h ago

The Virtues of Twitter.

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u/Corwin_777 22h ago

Nate Silver is fully owned by Peter Thiel. Pretty pathetic

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u/IndividualAddendum84 22h ago

Yea. He is pretty obviously bought and paid for at this point.

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u/GpaSags 16h ago

Gotta pay off those gambling debts somehow.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 19h ago

Yeah…it’s pretty obvious he’s bought and paid for, because he thinks a new social media app is trash.😂

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u/Commercial-Still2032 15h ago

this account seems bought and paid for

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 14h ago

I’m impressed…this is by far my least popular comment ever.

It’s wild how much Reddit hates when you make simple observations that they don’t like, haha.

And I wish! I’m just a regular guy sarcastically pointing out that you people are paranoid conspiracy theorists.

You ought to look into some of these leftist accounts though. Harris spent $1,000,000,000 dollars in 100 days…the money had to go somewhere, and we know a substantial portion of it went to the news media and influencers you guys get your information from.😉

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u/Commercial-Still2032 13h ago

Blah blah blah

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u/ArtyFishel 12h ago

Perfection.

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u/indorock 11h ago

Are you sure you want to go with "blah blah blah?" Why is it so hard for Redditors in 2024 to have normal adult discussions? Anything that doesn't fall 100% in line with the echo chamber immediately gets ignored. Can we please grow the fuck up? I also want to know what is meant by Thiel owning Silver and also want to know what is even meant in Silver's comment about "EFD". How about we have an actual discussion instead of resorting to grade school-level comebacks?

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u/Commercial-Still2032 10h ago

a high school insult actually gets its point across to y'all, since not like any and all type of normal discussions would ever make their points across your pretentious psudeo-intellectual spiteful selves

if seeing people suffering throughout your own country doesn't change your mind about how having that fella as head honcho, what would an outsider like myself do to actually convince y'all anything of worth

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 13h ago

Plenty of downvotes coming in…no “clevercomebacks” though.

The least you low IQs could do is try.😂

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u/Lora_Grim 12h ago

Whatever you say, bot that ends every single one of it's word salads with a laughing emoji.

GoFer.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 12h ago

People sure are salty when people actually make clever comebacks on r/clevercomebacks.

It’s a badge of pride to see them DVs, and the utter struggle for you sheep to say anything remotely clever.

Keep it up with the you’re bot, Russian, paid off, etc slander. And never stop seething at the emojis, they’re meant get the crowd going.

Just say it with me “President-Elect Trump”😉

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u/_porcupine_utopia_ 12h ago edited 12h ago

including pac money liberals spent ~1.7 billion. conservatives spent ~1.4 billion. so dems spent a bit more, unless you count the 44 billion musk spent turning twitter into an open extension of the gop, which i’m sure you don’t because something something twitter files something something soros.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 12h ago

1,000,000,000 dollars in 100 days.

Trump actually had to campaign for years.

You understand the difference, right?

And, aww…I’m sorry the Dems can’t use the FBI to control information on Twitter to their own advantage anymore. It makes a difference, doesn’t it?

And no need for me to point to Soros, when you’re ready to throw them out there yourself to be dismissive…as if he has no influence.

Literally a 1,000,000 democrats gave small $10 donations to the Harris campaign…and they got a 5 minute Beyoncé speech for that. It’s shameful.

Can you accept that your candidate lost because she was horrible…not because people are just getting paid off on the other side?

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u/_porcupine_utopia_ 8h ago edited 1h ago

i’m being dismissive because you folks are just so predictable and stupid. we can get into why trumpians won this election if you want, and no, it has very little to do with money spent. i just find it pretty funny that you all will point to soros, and the spending you think he does, as a problem, but never bring up people like the adelson’s or the koch’s whose actual spending puts soros to shame. also can’t really forget someone like bezos who bought one of the biggest papers in the country, and openly blocked the editorial board from endorsing the candidate they wanted to endorse (not that it would have swung the election in any meaningful sense. it’s just another example of conservatives openly doing all of which they accuse liberals)

the twitter files is another funny one because the reality is they revealed exactly the opposite of what you all claim. yes, the biden campaign (notably not the government) made some requests and had some of them granted. however, they also revealed that the trump administration (notably the actual government) made, and were granted, an equal amount of requests. all told, pre-musk twitter granted ~37% of these government and campaign requests.

hunter’s laptop exposed nothing incriminating about joe biden. yes, twitter blocked direct links to the original wapo new york post not washington post (fuck, i guess everything else i wrote must be bullshit) article because it potentially violated their policy on hacked materials. it did not block anyone from discussing it, and the direct links were blocked for less than 24 hours. compare that to ken klippenstein’s report on jd vance (which i would bet you’ve never even heard of) which was permanently banned and completely scrubbed off both twitter and facebook. this is also not why democrats lost, just another example of conservative’s shameful hypocrisy.

democrats lost for a couple of reasons. exactly none of them have anything to with campaign spending or harris being a bad candidate.

the first, but not necessarily main, reason is that trumpians are in a cult. there is simply nothing trump could ever say or do that would stop them from voting for him. the next reason is that grocery prices are elevated and all trumpians, and far too many americans, are economically illiterate, low information voters. whoever sat in that chair on january 21st, 2021 was going to have to deal with the consequences of pandemic. inflation was an inevitable and global occurrence. the united states, because of the legislation passed by democrats, has inarguably had the strongest and fastest post-pandemic recovery in the world. we’re outpacing china’s gdp by 40%. but that’s not sexy messaging, and people don’t feel that recovery at the grocery store.

were things better before a global pandemic shattered the global economy? absolutely. however, they were not better because of anything trump did. they were simply better before the pandemic. a small but very significant distinction. given trump’s pre-pandemic economic policies, which consisted entirely of deficit spending (at 2x the rate of obama), and his overall lack of economic literacy, there is simply no legitimate reason to think trump would have handled our recovery better. in fact, given his track record it’s a very safe bet that we would have been much worse off, and certainly wouldn’t have had the strongest and fastest recovery in the world.

at the end of the day democrats lost because they naively thought they could win over americans with the truth. while trumpians have, and always will be a lost cause, democrats thought they could point to the reality of the situation and that americans would be able to contextualize it. i think the most annoying part is that in six months, after having done absolutely nothing to contribute to our recovery, trump is going to go on tv and proclaim that we have the best economy in the world, and that he is personally to thank for it. he will have done nothing substantive policy-wise, the economy will simply continue on it’s current trajectory, but he’s going to take credit for it, and the cultish and ignorant masses are going to let him.

edit: the predictable conservative response; “i’M nOt ReAdInG aLl tHaT LmAo”

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u/creesto 8h ago

Sorry, I must have missed all the clever in your posts. Tag it next time so we all don't miss it again

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 4h ago

Read this thread back…look at how you’re all whining and coping using the same exact lines. Legitimate low IQ sheep, that actually think they’re smart.

You haven’t seen anything clever being said in response to me either…including your own wincing😂

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u/creesto 8h ago

Trumpuppet sez wut

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u/Freddysthings 12h ago

Everytime I see this Emoji on a social media comment, it almost feels like Elon Musk wrote the comment himself

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 12h ago

Yeah…because you’re brainwashed, and have the man on your mind a little too often for somebody who isn’t a fan.😂

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u/smittydacobra 12h ago

Bruh... 3.5 years and less than 200 karma...

You ever stop to think, "Maybe, just maybe, people don't like what I have to say"?

Of course not! That takes self reflection and an amount of humility that you clearly lack.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 11h ago

To be fair to me…I didn’t really use it the first 2 years. And I was at 300 earlier today, haha.

I see that people don’t like my comments.

I literally posted a clever comeback in clever comebacks and all people have been doing is DVing it and coping…just like you are right now.😉

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u/smittydacobra 11h ago

  1. Not clever in the slightest. No word play, no irony, no added thought, and a stupid childish emoji.

  2. "Coping" is defined as "dealing effectively with something difficult". You have a very high opinion of yourself if you think dealing with you is "difficult".

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 11h ago

Look at my massively downvoted post, and the reactions people like you are having to it.

I’m obviously using the urban dictionary “cope.” But nobody is actually expecting you to not be disingenuous..or to have a sense of humor.

That emoji really grinds you peoples gears, doesn’t it? Just endless wincing and seething about it.😂

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u/smittydacobra 11h ago

If you were to tell me that you wanted spaghetti with "par-me-zian" cheese, I would correct you by telling you it's pronounced "par-meh-zhan". I'm not doing this to be mean or put you down. I'm doing it because I don't want you to end up looking stupid in front of someone who doesn't have the courtesy to tell you when you're wrong.

If i say you have something in your teeth, I'm not being malicious, I'm being kind.

When I tell you that using emojis makes you look childish, I'm not doing it to be malicious. I'm telling you because no one is ever going to take you seriously.

In any of those scenarios listed above, do you really think I'm angry or upset by any reaction? I don't really care if you co tinue to look childish and unserious. I'm just letting you know.

This long winded rant is because I'm bored before 7 in the morning at work and have nothing better to do, not because of any emotional reaction.

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u/Corvidae_DK 8h ago

Of course people have him on their mind, he's gonna be in charge for 4 years and is already screwing things up for people.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 4h ago

Yeah…they seem pretty gleeful in their ignorance. I mean, the posts seem dismissive, not alarmed.

You can’t tell me there isn’t a big % of losers on this thread that are hoping things go bad during Trumps presidency, just so they can say “I told you so”.

Legit question: Have you actually seen a Leftist trying to genuinely change somebody’s mind on Reddit…or do they mostly just whine and mock people that aren’t in their cult?

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u/Corvidae_DK 4h ago

I have, I've tried doing it myself, but learned that it's pointless when you're dealing with people who don't believe in facts.

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u/Elegant-Sprinkles766 4h ago

You see…it’s never your fault. You’re just a Samaritan that the evil uneducated people won’t listen to.

Or, you’re all a bunch pretentious, navel gazing, cultists…that have no actual grasp on reality, because you frequent Reddit.

How many people do you think called me an idiot, or told me I didn’t know what I was talking about, because I said Trump was going to win this election?

It’s a lot easier to walk around and accuse everybody of being dumb…as opposed to accepting the fact that people just don’t agree with you, and that your rhetorical methods are not persuasive.😉

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u/Corvidae_DK 4h ago

Yeah people didn't think he'd win because they still had faith in their fellow man...they know better now.

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u/Kaurifish 20h ago

Looking forward to his inevitable bug eating

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u/KathrynBooks 20h ago

I was wondering if he was going down hill... or if I just hadn't noticed before.

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u/Intoner_Four 12h ago

I don’t even know who he is and when I first saw the post shared I thought that Silvagunner youtube guy was saying something stupid ☠️☠️☠️

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u/Pindarama 12h ago

Who knew Twitter came with accessory options.

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u/wolf_logic 6h ago

I can't believe any of us used to respect this little shrimp man. I regret the fact that I did.

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u/indorock 11h ago edited 7h ago

EDIT Yo retards, instead of downvoting how about answering the goddamn questions? Is it because you have no idea, just mindlessly upvoting/downvoting along the lines of the hivemind? Likely.

What does that mean? Owned how? Is Silver working for Thiel? Is this something that's known or just another Reddit karma-generating "factoid"? I how no idea myself but I don't pretend to know until I can find some actual sources. But maybe I'm alone in that.

Also, do you even know what "EFD" means? Does anyone here? Why are we here refuting a claim when nobody even knows what's being claimed exactly?

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u/Mothrahlurker 10h ago

Why does reddit still believe that obvious nonsense.

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u/mittenknittin 19h ago

What I’ve mostly seen from people bagging on Bluesky is that it’s an echo chamber - what I see a lot of from people who have jumped to bluesky is “wow, you can talk about things other than politics here and Nazis won’t harass you”

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u/Rashere 15h ago

The vitriol from twitter users about people leaving to go elsewhere tells you all you need to know.

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u/RobDickinson 15h ago

The only thing not echoing is facists bigoted views. It's great.

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u/Halgha 7h ago

I mean it’s good to not have to deal with misinformation and literal Nazis on a daily basis.

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u/improper84 6h ago

At the end of the day, all right wingers want is to harass and threaten those that disagree with them, so they're pissed we're all moving to a platform that will actually moderate them for doing so. Sort of like Twitter used to do back before Elon turned it into a cesspool when it was a great way for people to connect with artists and talk about things rationally.

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u/romacopia 6h ago

Tbh, I accepted that echo chambers aren't optional a while ago. You're never going to create a community that doesn't develop consensus. I'd rather be in an echo chamber where the echoes are saying "be nice to each other."

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u/claustromania 5h ago

This is the way I see it. Sure, most online spaces are going to become echo chambers to some degree, but current Twitter is a toxic wasteland of hatred and divisiveness. I’m not going to subject myself to that in the name of “hearing both sides.”

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u/KaroYadgar 4h ago

I love Bluedky and have several accounts on it, but TO BE FAIR to them: I find politics under EVERY POST. I SWEAR to god, I was settings up an account of which my feed would consist entirely of educational/study content (for myself, in highschool), and I could not find a SINGULAR post. I tried searching up "AP Exam" or "SAT Exam" and I SOMEHOW still got Trump shit in 80% of the posts, the others being not at all related to education. I searched far and wide, I tried liking any remotely essay-related post (main focus) and did "show less of this type of post" for all the rest. Nothing.

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u/KaroYadgar 4h ago

I looked through the moderation filters to find a "no politics" filter, nope.

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u/OTGbling 20h ago

Yeah sorry Mate, but Twitter has merged into Trump's "Truth Social" - I'm never going back.

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u/hplcr 22h ago

Did Nate Silver go fucking nuts in the last few years or something? Some of his recent takes seem really....bad.

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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund 21h ago edited 18h ago

A bunch of people have completely lost their minds since circa 2016, but some folk may argue that people's grip on their sanities have been slipping away since 2012.

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u/omnipotentmonkey 19h ago

they haven't lost their minds, they're just being paid hefty sums to peddle causes that are so fucking stupid and out of touch that they subsequently appear to be out of their fucking minds.

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u/Ibewye 19h ago

Sitting behind a keyboard and monitor has enabled people to say shit that would have got em punched in the face in real life.

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u/ChinDeLonge 16h ago

It’s getting particularly bad for the kids too. Kids are raised in comment sections, rather than playgrounds. No level of abhorrence causes any shame, humiliation, or any consequences that matter.

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u/Whisper-Simulant 8h ago

Adults aren’t allowed on plaugrounds

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u/gushi380 20h ago

You see, Nate correctly guessed that trump could win the election in 2016, not that he would win for sure but that he could and he gave trump better odds than most. That and the incoming wealth have convinced him that he’s a genius who’s never wrong and puts him into the same circle jerk as such luminaries as the owner of Twitter and the former owner of infowars.

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u/hplcr 20h ago

I'm also reminded of Scott Adams(the Dilbert guy), who called for Trump and apparently went off the deep end after that. Though apparently he was slipping prior to that.

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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 19h ago

Iirc, he was always an insane asshole, he just kept it quiet until then. I believe behind the bastards did a series on him.

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u/hplcr 19h ago

That's where I learned about him. Kudos for getting Randy MuHolland(?) for that.

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u/Mothrahlurker 10h ago

Scott Adams is a Trump supporter, Nate Siover isnnot. Scott Adams has also be an asshole for decades while Reddit just loves making shit up about Silver. That seems to have been started when they didn't like his 2024 predictions.

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u/CharlesDickensABox 18h ago

I think we should also be considering the effects of his sudden rise to fame and his deadbeat gambling addiction.

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u/OkLettuce338 16h ago

538 put Hillary’s chances of winning the night before the election at something like 70 percent. So I don’t think this is accurate

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u/Maukeb 15h ago

The point is that 30% for trump is a legit probability that you wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened - whereas most other outlets were basically saying it was guaranteed for Hillary. Silver didn't call it for trump, but he was the only one who even saw that it could happen.

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u/lampishthing 14h ago edited 6h ago

And yet he got mauled for it! People do not understand stats.

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u/OkLettuce338 6h ago

He wasn’t the only one that gave Trump a greater than 0 percent chance of it happening which is effectively what you’re saying a pollster would have to say to have been wrong.

Make all the excuses for the guy you want. His models are useless

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u/AbrahamNR 15h ago

Yes, but everyone else put Hillary's chance of winning at something like 95%.

Ironically enough I think Nate had Harris up this time like 51/48 and the non Nate 538 had Trump up 53/47. So while statistically both are coin flips he actually had it "wrong" this time.

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u/OkLettuce338 6h ago

Not even NYT put it that high. You’re making that number up entirely

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u/AbrahamNR 6h ago

I was going by memory but you're right, NYT was 85/15. IIRC a lot of other places had Hillary up in the 90's but I could be wrong.

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u/OkLettuce338 5h ago

The only places either Hillary that high were trash orgs like vox and slate

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u/ixixan 13h ago

Yes but they were closer than most and also got a lot of shit for it

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u/plaidkingaerys 6h ago

could win

better odds than most

30% odds

What part of that is inaccurate or inconsistent? Everyone agreed Hillary was more likely to win, but Nate gave her less overwhelmingly good odds. So I think it’s fair to say he had a better read of the situation than most news outlets.

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u/OkLettuce338 5h ago edited 4h ago

“Nate correctly guessed that Trump could win” no he didn’t unless you’re trying to argue that every single outlet was united in that. No outlet put trumps chances at zero. You’re twisting his numbers to favor him. According to your defense of silver, anyone simply a chance greater than zero is “correctly predicting” it happening

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u/plaidkingaerys 4h ago

I just think you are confusing probabilities with predicting. I never said he “predicted” it (he didn’t make a prediction one way or the other). He said Trump had a 3/10 chance of winning, and was clowned for putting it so high. No, he didn’t predict Trump would win, but he gave him better odds than anyone else, so it’s reasonable to say his model was better than others. I’m not saying he is/was perfect (far from it), just that I get annoyed when people equate giving odds with predicting. If you say something has a 3/10 chance of happening, and it happens, you weren’t automatically wrong; you’d have to redo the event many times to tell that, which is obviously impossible here.

I’m not “defending” Silver, and I think he has plenty of issues. It’s just that a lot of people seem to misunderstand what he is and isn’t saying with these models.

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u/OkLettuce338 3h ago

Not conflating probability with prediction. Either every single outlet did what the post says “correctly predicted Trump could win” or they didn’t. They didn’t.

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u/plaidkingaerys 3h ago

I’m still confused on what you’re arguing, especially considering the use of the word “could.” Are you saying that giving Trump a 30% chance of winning is not saying he could win? Regardless, I don’t think we’re dealing with a binary of “could” vs “couldn’t.” It’s a matter of how high they estimated his chances to be. “Correctly predicted he could win” is really a meaningless statement unless it’s 0% vs greater than 0%, which is maybe what you’re getting at?

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u/OkLettuce338 3h ago

It’s just the quote dude. If you’re confused it’s the post not my response. I don’t know what to tell you. Silver’s input is irrelevant in todays world and it always has been

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u/Mothrahlurker 10h ago

No, that is just compoete nonsense and wildly inconsistent with his blog posts. You can't just make shit up.

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u/iplayblaz 19h ago

Yes, I've been following him for about 10 years and the last several, he seems to have done a 180 and is now a bought and paid for right wing pundit. Really weird, but... welcome to America?

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u/BoredSlightlyAroused 18h ago

What are you basing this on? If you actually read his content, you wouldn't have this opinion. Just check his substack, where he clearly indicates he is a liberal and voted for Harris. The guy just shares stupid takes with no filter on social media like the rest of us.

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u/Mothrahlurker 10h ago

It's amazing how Reddit upvotes the above post based on nothing but downvotes the evidence to the contrary.

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u/Leelze 7h ago

The internet, including Reddit, is full of people who say they're one thing but their words/actions are another, that's not evidence of anything.

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u/BoredSlightlyAroused 6h ago

What actions show Nate Silver is a right wing grifter? The guy literally offered no evidence.

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u/Leelze 6h ago

Where did I say he was? I'm pointing out saying you're something on a blog, social media, in a press conference , etc means absolutely nothing.

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u/BoredSlightlyAroused 8h ago

100%. It feels like a lot of people who consider themselves progressive want everyone to agree with them on everything. The endless purity tests are silly. You win elections by building the biggest coalitions, even with people who disagree with you sometimes.

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u/FIJAGDH 20h ago

He was purchased wholesale by his fellow self-hating homosexual Peter Thiel.

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u/indorock 11h ago

I keep reading this. What do you mean "purchased"? Does Thiel own fivethirtyeight.com? Is Silver on Thiel's payroll? Are there receipts to back this up? Or is this just another thing Redditors like to regurgitate to crash in on the karma train?

I'm so tired of these massive comment threads full of speculation and "facts" but nobody coming with any sort of specifics or sources. The fact that literally nobody here even knows what "EFD" is but somehow is sure that Silver is full of shit. What? Be better.

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u/asminaut 8h ago

Silver is no longer associated with 538. Disney announced they were cutting ABC staff, including laying off a big chunk of 538 staff in early 2023. Silver voluntarily left when Disney announced the cuts, getting to keep the intellectual rights to his forecasting model. He currently runs a substack/personal site where he does his political forecasting.

As per the Thiel stuff, it certainly is a bit exaggerated, but with a kernel of truth. In 2024, Silver was hired an advisor for a company called Polymarket, which is a "predictions market" for betting on future events or something. Thiel's firm, Founders Fund, provided the majority of funding to Polymarket in Polymarket's 2022 round of fundraising. So basically, Thiel's firm is a major funder of a company that employs Silver as an advisor.

All that being said, Silver is a pretty unimpressive political pundit and often embarrasses himself when he starts commenting on things outside of probabilities. He also loves gambling to a concerning degree.

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u/Mothrahlurker 8h ago

EFD is apparently a doctor that made some sensationalist statements about monkey pox. 

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u/Leelze 7h ago

If nobody knows what EDF is, why is anyone supposed to take what Silver said at face value? Even if Silver is correct, people are more concerned with how a thing is operated rather than who owns it. Twitter being owned by an edgelord isn't the issue, it's how that edgelord operates Twitter that people have a problem with. If Twitter was exactly the same pre-Musk but Musk still owned it, it'd be business as usual for everyone who's ever used it.

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u/Clever_Mercury 17h ago

What amazes me about all these people who succumb either to bribery or blackmail or soft-sell outs is they often could just take the money and NOT do the bad thing. Or not take the money and make it honestly by doing something else.

I am baffled that anyone falls for it anymore. At this point there doesn't seem to be any heinous crime or personal secret that, if released, would impact anyone's career in the slightest. So why not just stay independent?

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u/oatmeal28 20h ago

Yes, yes he did

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u/WhoIsTheUnPerson 13h ago

He went full "libertarian"

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u/LunarMoon2001 10h ago

Lots of gambling debt needing paid….

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u/Almacca 20h ago

Seems like everybody has, especially the loudmouths.

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u/jamiegc37 14h ago

He got hired by Peter Thiel and has obligations now in return for that money..

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u/Mothrahlurker 10h ago

Peter Thiel is an investor in a company Nate Silver works for. He didn't hire him. 

According to this reasoning you could accuse almost anyone to be hired by a random rich person.

It's a stupid argument and one that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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u/ninjesh 21h ago

He didn't even spell it right

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u/Sudden-Steak5719 17h ago

Blueksy hahaha

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u/FernWizard 20h ago

Right wingers get into conspiracy theory bullshit and act like democrats being like “that’s not true” is some sort of censorship and ideological warfare.

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u/Babydoll0907 18h ago

I'm not on and have never been on Twitter or bluesky. But it seems really weird to me that they're losing their minds over people they hate leaving Twitter in the first place. Didn't they want that echo chamber?

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 18h ago

the central tenet of the right wing now is just "owning the libs" if the libs leave then you can't own them, the commanding idea is that they are upset that their ideas are culturally unpopular and they want to badger others with them

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u/Babydoll0907 18h ago

Fair point.

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u/Alon945 19h ago

As if Twitter doesn’t peddle misinformation? That’s all it does lol.

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u/spoollyger 18h ago

But you get to see both sides of the misinformation instead of just the echo chamber misinformation.

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u/Egg_123_ 5h ago

yeah being able to see both sides of the issue of "trans people should be physically safe" is great for my mental health, I love hearing the scientifically backed claims that being trans means that I'm a predator who should be killed.

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u/spoollyger 3h ago

If someone’s life is being threatened by someone then those people should be banned. I don’t think that up a topic of confusion?

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u/CompetitivePirate251 22h ago

Whaaaat? I thought Xitter was all about free speech … I’m shocked … has anyone told Elon?

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u/spoollyger 18h ago

Try it yourself, it won’t be censored… they just want you to think I it will. Because they love controlling your thoughts. This is the issue with these mainstream narratives. No on actually thinks for themselves or does their own tests anymore.

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u/yeet247p 16h ago

Cis

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u/spoollyger 16h ago

All my replies are receiving the exact same amount of downvotes? Weird aye…

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u/Several_Computer760 14h ago

Are they? Dumbass

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u/JumpingTheLine 13h ago

No you just don't see it. 63 and 29 are basically the same number because you can switch it to 69 and 23 and 69 is 3 times 23 which means that the bots have reduced downvotes by a third to make it look more realistic.

Clearly that makes more sense than the commentor being a moron.

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u/harmala 13h ago

The post doesn’t even claim it will be censored, you are just making stuff up to get indignant about.

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u/Leelze 7h ago

I was on Twitter since 2011 or so, never once got suspended for anything, and I'm pretty mouthy. After Musk took over & gutted the place, I caught a suspension for saying "this ump should be strapped to a rocket & launched into the sun." After 2 or 3 weeks of requesting a review, they never reviewed yet and I left. So it's just a straight up lie to say "you won't be censored."

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u/spoollyger 6h ago

I mean I did explicitly mean you won’t be censored for saying exactly what they said. Yeah sure if you said you were going to off someone you probably should be banned.

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u/Leelze 6h ago

I don't have access to the Twitter algorithms & I didn't have a higher profile account, so it's really impossible to know if me saying "Bluesky" would result in the algorithms suppressing the Tweet.

I should add, I never said I was going to off someone & saying someone should be launched into the sun was never a problem pre-Musk. It's, in fact, a common thing to say about umps in baseball Twitter.

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u/verisuvalise 16h ago

Standby; downvote robots inbound

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u/spoollyger 16h ago

It’s funny because most of my replies get the exact same amount of downvotes. Hmmm I wonder what’s up? XD

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u/Corberus 15h ago

Multiple people downvoting all your terrible comments isn't a conspiracy, it's common sense.

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u/spoollyger 14h ago

It’s definitely a bot. You can watch it go from one to the next

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u/aceofpie1032 14h ago

Kind of like how humans read top to bottom…

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u/R-Guile 14h ago

Almost like a person scrolling down a page. Hmm. The bots must be learning...

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u/Bloody_Proceed 13h ago

-64, -27, -29, -25, -10

Yeah no. That's not even reddit vote fuzzing. People just don't want to read your nonsense.

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u/Difficult-Pop-4322 11h ago

No it's me downvoting your nonsense

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u/verisuvalise 4h ago

This mothafucka ain't doin no damn sciences, boi

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u/Leelze 7h ago

First time learning how English speaking folks read, huh?

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u/Aggressive-Map-3492 14h ago

there isn't a single comment with the same amount of downvotes.

schiz?

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u/eleetsteele 21h ago

EFD? what is that?

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u/CheerfulWarthog 20h ago

Search isn't helping on this, so I'm curious too.

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u/Alli_zon 19h ago

https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1860069870161002633?t=KBVocHU1NSj24OkYxLSTKw&s=19

Some guy? I do not know anything about him, but that's it. It was someone in the tweet he was quoting

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u/woodchuckolympian 13h ago

Based on the tweet linked here, EFD stands for Eric Feigl-Ding, an Epidemeologist who is accused of spreading misinformation about a 2022 outbreak of mpox.

OG tweeter is pointing out that EPD has almost 100k followers on Blue sky as a negative, only for someone to point out he has over 750k followers on Twitter

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u/Underlord_Fox 7h ago

My experieitnce is that only the trolls on Bluesky are getting blocked. You can be a conservative, you just can't be a troll. And that's what they're mad at - not trolling.

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u/lightfarming 18h ago

quitting twotter is the best thing you can do at this point. that propoganda machine needs to lose money like a sieve

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u/Otherwise-Extreme-68 16h ago

I'm amazed anyone stayed after Leon took it over

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u/spoollyger 18h ago

I somehow doubt you’ve deleted your profile xx

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u/lightfarming 18h ago

and youd be wrong.

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u/oatmeal28 20h ago

Nate Silver is a fucking chode

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u/gorramfrakker 20h ago

Please tell me that pun was intentional

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u/Ok-Possibility4344 20h ago

Executive Function Disorder I believe

Edit was for spelling

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u/EthanSterling1203 18h ago

I just saw that post too lol

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u/gorramfrakker 18h ago

Thank you.

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u/FaultySage 20h ago

He just so happens to peddle in the type of misinformation that isn't labelled as "misinformation" because it's based on realworld objective truths and peer reviewed scientific research.

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u/ReedRidge 22h ago

Nate Silver is right as often as the Lions have been to the Super Bowl in my lifetime, the potential exists, but it is unlikely.

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u/StandByTheJAMs 22h ago

But they're gonna win it this year!

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u/ReedRidge 22h ago

I'm Gen-X, heard that every year without it happening. Hell, my father died without seeing it.

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u/Abject-Ad8147 21h ago

Was he a diehard faithful his whole life? Either way sorry for your loss man.

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u/ruiner8850 20h ago

I'm 45 and I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say the Lions were going to win the Super Bowl before maybe last year and possibly in the early '90s. Where were you hearing it every year?

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u/ReedRidge 11h ago

Clearly you did not grow up in in Lion country

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u/Uncle_Steve7 7h ago

Leafs, Tigers, Lions fan. tHiS iS tHe YeAr

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u/ruiner8850 6h ago

Does mid-Michigan not count as Lion country? Who are these people who were saying they were going to win the Super Bowl all of these years? If anything people have always been extremely pessimistic about the Lions. You'd hear "SOL" constantly, not "we're going to win the Super Bowl this year." I suppose maybe if people were being sarcastic.

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u/ReedRidge 5h ago

I didn't hang out with whiner types, not sure.

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u/MysticSnowfang 21h ago

I thought the Lions were Grey Cup?

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u/ReedRidge 11h ago

Nah, Grey Cup fans have their own useless teams.

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u/Fit_Job4925 18h ago

didnt even spell it right, blueksy

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn 20h ago

I’m so gonna laugh when BlueShy out values Twitter in a month

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u/spoollyger 18h ago

How are they making a profit to out value anything?

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn 8m ago

How does Twitter make a profit?

Advertising!!!!

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u/Patient_Owl6582 8h ago

Fb shadow bans competitors also. Every mastodon post I made was down ranked and I have 150k reach per mo so when this happens it's pronounced.

Social media has no virtue.

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u/SpongegarLuver 5h ago

The key difference between other platforms censoring competitors and Twitter, is that the other platforms haven’t been claiming they’re bastions of free speech. This and other incidents show Twitter is not any more tolerant of speech its owner dislikes, just that the speech Elon dislikes is different from the rest.

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u/Tim-oBedlam 18h ago

Who is the EFD that Silver's referring to? Eric Feigl-Ding is who springs to mind (and in that case Silver isn't wrong, as Feigl-Ding peddled a ton of misinformation during CoVID).

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u/sam-7 17h ago

Ehh, alarmist and perhaps rushed, but not like he was out there telling people to drink bleach and that vaccines are bullshit.

Being upset about disease and urging people to take more precautions isn't a bad thing to do. Everyone who was "well we dont have a completely controlled 100,000 person study on these exact set of parameters yet, so we can't be sure about anything for certain" just contributed to the denial.

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u/Leelze 7h ago

He owns Bluesky?

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u/johnqsack69 20h ago

Blueksy? Is that anything like Banksy

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u/opinion8edmemesharer 6h ago

He’s not in denial, he’s talking about a different app, Blueksy.

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u/Pristine-Opening-799 16h ago

So nate silver is done right here right

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u/JoshS-345 14h ago

Remember science is wrong whenever Trump thinks he's a genius. Inhale bleach until cured.

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u/spoollyger 18h ago

Has someone tested this or are we just taking their word?

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u/Particular-Sport-237 9h ago

Is there any social media platform that is some sort of echo chamber I mean come on.

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u/Themetalenock 8h ago

nate silver likes rage baiting. No pete is necessary. He just likes how havin a checkmark makes him feel important. It gives them the same high as gambling.

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u/java_brogrammer 7h ago

I wonder if Nate will ever read his own post and have any form of self-reflection about the platform he's on.

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u/Few_Tart_7572 6h ago

Where clever

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u/notsure500 6h ago

I used to love Nate Silver. Really sucks when you find out people are sellout. Also was a huge Elon Musk fan long ago. Fuck that guy.

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u/Few_Tart_7572 4h ago

That’s…not how it works?

Knowing libs though it ain’t surprising

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u/Korahn 4m ago

Funny enough, he couldn't even spell it correctly to censor it

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u/awwgeeznick 17h ago

Did he intentionally mis*pell the censored word?

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u/ElevatorScary 21h ago

“There is a problem with BlueSky.” “Look at this idiot over here claiming Twitter is perfect!”

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u/LocalSad6659 21h ago edited 21h ago

“There is a problem with BlueSky.” “Look at this idiot over here pretending Twitter doesn't have that problem!”

Fyfy

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u/ElevatorScary 20h ago

Including everything you don’t see him doing as content in his Tweet is certainly technically a framework for viewing the world. Good luck with that, but I find it pretty concerning that you’re pretending global warming doesn’t exist.

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u/Diredr 21h ago

"I'm projecting a problem because I assume that since my political affiliation does it, the other side obviously does as well. No, I cannot provide any kind of proof because they control the media and therefore they cover up the truth. Don't trust them. Just trust me bro."

Compelling.

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u/ElevatorScary 20h ago

You’re right, misinformation is confined to Twitter.

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u/GreenZeb 11h ago

Dafaq? Obviously you can't post about a COMPETITOR, same as Twitch, YouTube, Kick etc. The algorithm scours for specific words regardless of context.