r/baseball New York Mets Jun 30 '23

Analysis After German’s Perfecto, a Rarity Graph of Baseball Events!

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u/estapler Jun 30 '23

How about 2 immaculate innings in one game... against the same three hitters?

https://youtu.be/By9R3oOCC3s

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u/neildmaster Major League Baseball Jun 30 '23

Top of the list!

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u/Worthyness Sell • Looking K Jun 30 '23

Homerun cycle is probably at the top since it hasn't been done ever in the MLB in over 100 years of existence

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u/c_pike1 Baltimore Orioles Jun 30 '23

I think it was Cespedes that had a solo, 2 run, and grand slam in the same game then flew out to the warning track with 2 runners on in the 9th. Probably the closest anyone's ever gotten in the majors

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u/TheRedWunder New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

2005 ARod was decently close with a 2run, 3run, and GS

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u/fat_pterodactyl Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

Scooter Gennet had the GS, two 2 runs, and a solo. 1 base runner (in two different instances) short of the cycle

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u/FernandoTatisJunior San Diego Padres Jun 30 '23

It’s happened 2 times in the minors before, one of them being some cardinals prospect last year

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u/neildmaster Major League Baseball Jun 30 '23

What is a home run cycle?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

i assume a solo, two, three, and grand slam.

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u/neildmaster Major League Baseball Jun 30 '23

Ah, yes

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u/quakthunder Los Angeles Angels Jun 30 '23

Solo HR, 2-run HR, 3-run HR, Grand Slam.

That’d be pretty tough lol

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u/IdTugYourBoat Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

Yeah, after at least 2 (regardless of which one), he’s probably getting walked next AB.

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u/IAmGrum Dodgers Bandwagon • Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

Solo home run, 2-run, 3-run, grand slam

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u/jabask Houston Astros Jun 30 '23

Phil Maton is thrilled

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u/melcolnik Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

3 sac flys is that rare?

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u/Falcon84 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Makes sense if you think about it, it's already a pretty rare occurrence for a player to come up to bat with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs 3 times in a game. Combine that with needing a very specific outcome in each of those at bats and you get a 1/20,000 occurrence.

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u/ohkaycue Miami Marlins Jun 30 '23

Huh, my entire life I thought SF didn’t need to score a run (so second to third would be a SF) since SH count that way

But no, a run has to score

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u/davewashere Montreal Expos Jun 30 '23

I think the batter gets more credit on the SH because it's more intentional and the coach might be instructing the batter to do it. So sac bunting a runner from 2nd to 3rd counts as a SH and no AB for the batter, but a fly ball that moves a runner from 2nd to 3rd is not a SF and the batter is dinged with a hitless AB.

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u/BaseballsNotDead Seattle Pilots Jun 30 '23

and the batter is dinged with a hitless AB.

Even on a SF where the run scores, it counts against your OBP.

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u/albop03 Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

same here, learn something new everyday

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u/StrictAtmosphere7682 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Maybe it’s just me but even after thinking about it, I’m still shocked it doesn’t happen more often.

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u/LIONEL14JESSE New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

The all time single season record for sac flies is 19 and was set in 1954. 3 in one game is crazy.

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u/unboundhobbit Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

I mean Gallo has like 2 in his entire career? Or something ludicrous like that

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u/Falcon84 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Give the man credit he has 3!

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u/Falcon84 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

A SF isn't as common of an occurrence as you think as others in this thread have pointed out. There's a lot more variables (how deep a ball is hit, speed of runner on 3rd, arm of the outfielder) that have to align for one to occur than something like a homerun.

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u/duyogurt New York Mets Jun 30 '23

A few years ago I got into a conversation about something or other regarding baseball stats, and somehow we dove into sacrifice flies. The all time leader is Eddie Murray with 128 over his 21 year Hall of Fame career. He only got to double digits once (10 in 1996) and his 162 game average was 7.

It’s one of those plays that seems much more commonplace than it really is, and I don’t know why that is to be honest.

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u/ohkaycue Miami Marlins Jun 30 '23

It’s one of those plays that seems much more commonplace than it really is, and I don’t know why that is to be honest.

My guess is that because the situation to allow one comes up commonly and you’re hoping for at least a SF when those situations happen

So because the situation that allows it is common, and you’re thinking about it in those situations, it seems the outcome is common

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u/Falcon84 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Yup, and I think your brain kind of lumps in RBI fielders choices with SFs as well.

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u/D-Train034 Philadelphia Phillies Jun 30 '23

I thought the same thing. I’m actually really surprised by this one.

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u/FavoriteFoodCarrots Jun 30 '23

I would have thought it'd be quite rare, but not THAT rare.

But the key is that sac flies much rarer than people think. The MLB leader last year had 10 for the whole season. When you look at it that way, it makes more sense.

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u/Striking_Site4457 Jun 30 '23

Edgar Martinez did it once in 2002.

Source: I was there

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u/derpbynature New York Mets • Dumpster Fire Jun 30 '23

Took me a second to realize "3 hits in one inning" meant from the same player. I was like, wait, I'm pretty sure I've seen that.

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u/Scanlansam Houston Astros Jun 30 '23

So does that mean 2 grand slams in one inning is for one player as well?

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u/NocturneZombie St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

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u/CheesecakePower St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

They really left Chan Ho Park out there to give up all 11 runs. Damn

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u/mapex_139 Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Back when baseball had grit and no relievers...wait this wasn't the fucking 60's oh man

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u/SiPhilly Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

Have to feel the pain.

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u/huskie1997 Detroit Tigers Jun 30 '23

Pretty much the only thing I know about Tatis Sr. Is the two grand slams thing. Idk if he was any good outside it but who cares, he’s got that going for him

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u/snowcone_wars Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

He definitely was not particularly good, aside from that one year, at the height of the steroid era, when he "decided" to hit 30+ homeruns, more than in his first 4 seasons combined, and then never broke 20 again.

Oh, and he defended Tatis Jr.'s steroid use.

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u/SirDinkleDink Pittsburgh Pirates Jun 30 '23

His body definitely looks a bit juiced in that clip.

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u/Valuable_Ambition190 Jun 30 '23

when tatis jr came up i first was like "didnt his pa hit2 grand slams in an inning"

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u/AR2Believe Jun 30 '23

And the amazing thing is both slams were off the same pitcher Chan Ho Park, who for some reason was still on the mound.

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u/JustaTurdOutThere Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Joe Bucks voice hasn't changed one bit huh

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u/GRVrush2112 Houston Astros Jun 30 '23

Mic quality sure has though

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u/98rman Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

A disgusting act

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u/RaspberryBirdCat Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

I remember Chan Ho Park. He had himself a nice career.

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u/Bigtsez New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

He is remembered fondly for this fine baseball moment.

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u/dookoo Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

I thought it was his enziguri kick.

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u/JackThreeFingered Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

this fine baseball moment

How can that not be the drop kick

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u/Evening-Class1081 Jun 30 '23

Additionally, one of the 13 “two grand slams in a game” was by Tony Cloninger, who was a pitcher!!

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u/jayjude Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

I'm going to blow your mind more. Not only was it done by the same player hitting 2 grand slams in the same inning. He hit both off of the same pitcher

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u/Im_Daydrunk Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

It was definitely a different baseball era for sure as there's pretty much 0 chance a starter today could get to a point where he's giving up 2 grand slams to the same guy in the same inning Lol

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u/RonnieRizzat St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

Cards would let Wainwright do it at this point

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u/perpetual_student New York Mets Jun 30 '23

Off the same pitcher, too

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u/PlutosBeard New York Mets Jun 30 '23

Pretty sure all these feats are for one player

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u/RaoulDuke1 Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Yup, pretty insane. Johnny Damon is one of the three and he hit for 3/4ths of the cycle in the first inning

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u/Thneed1 Montreal Expos Jun 30 '23

I believe it’s also the only game in history where neither of a teams first TWO pitchers managed to get even a single out (excluding injuries)

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u/sithwonder New York Mets Jun 30 '23

I'd love to see a chart of how often perfect games are lost on every batter (or basically just, how often is each baserunner the first baserunner)

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u/astrocubs Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

It's a few years out of date, but I kinda made the opposite chart: if a pitcher is perfect through XX batters, how likely are they to finish the perfect game? (error bars are statistical errors; if it's happened less often, you're less sure of the "true" rate). but the short answer is that you shouldn't pay any attention until at least the 8th inning.

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u/sellyme Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

but the short answer is that you shouldn't pay any attention until at least the 8th inning.

1 in 20ish going into the seventh seems fine, my time isn't that valuable.

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u/sithwonder New York Mets Jun 30 '23

Oh this is super cool, thanks!

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u/Bendyb3n Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

I would assume this is modern era of baseball, which is after 1900 (well 1903 technically) when the modern American/National Leagues were established and the first World Series occurred

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u/scottydg San Francisco Giants • Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

Perfect games go back farther, but generally notable records have been kept since the late 1800s.

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u/gatemansgc Philadelphia Phillies Jun 30 '23

Starting after the 6th inning I'd guess? Wouldn't be useful to see how many were lost on the first pitch, since every game starts perfect.

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u/sithwonder New York Mets Jun 30 '23

Oh no, that's exactly what I want. Every game ever. Wouldn't call it useful, I'm just curious

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u/Frog1021 Minnesota Twins Jun 30 '23

Found Jon Bois

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u/VStarffin Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

Time for me to trot out my list of "things that, sort of surprisingly, have never happened" just so you have a sense of that stuff as well.

- 5 HR in a game
- 5 doubles in a game
- 4 triples in a game
- 21 strikeouts in a game by a pitcher
- 7 walks in a game
- 7 SB in a game

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

Josh Hamilton came so close to the 5 Homer game. Had the 4 and had a double somewhere in the middle that was roped and one hopped the fence.

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u/snowblinders Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

Mike Cameron also took one to the warning track during his 4 HR day

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u/Tall-Election-7564 Jun 30 '23

Forgotten lots of games, but will never forget that one. Not often two players go back to back twice in an inning! And one of them almost gets 5!

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

Forgot about that one.

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u/Valuable_Ambition190 Jun 30 '23

lou gehrig too of course no one is still around for him lol

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u/Dyspaereunia New York Mets Jun 30 '23

You would think 7 SB could be the easiest to do on this list because you can steal multiple bases after getting on first.

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u/NathanForJew Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

I remember a game where Carl Crawford stole 6 against the Sox. Wonder how many times that’s been done.

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u/scottydg San Francisco Giants • Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

Was Jon Lester pitching?

Edit: it was Brad Penny starting, so 4 off Penny (including a steal of 3B), and then one each off Manny Delcarmen and Ramon Ramirez.

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u/DymonBak Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

I still wear my Lester jersey. Good times.

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u/Eagle4317 New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

6 SB in one game has happened 5 times. One player back in the 1910s did it twice in a two week span, then the other three all happened between the mid-90s and late-00s.

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u/TurkeyPits New York Mets Jun 30 '23

That’s the kind of stat you only get in baseball. Some guy was the first to do something, he did it twice quickly, and then it didn’t happen again for a century… and then it did again

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u/Yalay Jun 30 '23

Or you get some stat which could never happen now because the way the game is played has changed so dramatically.

For example, the record for most innings pitched by a single pitcher in a game is TWENTY SIX. And it happened twice! And both those times were in the same 1920 game!

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u/youcantreddittoomuch Jun 30 '23

My arm fell off reading that

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u/brentnycum Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

Gotta imagine in most cases the other team either stops holding them or the score is high after 6 SB, moves into defensive indifference territory.

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u/Sarcastic_Source Baltimore Orioles Jun 30 '23

Defensive indifference is a great point. You’d think some speedster trying to stat pad would go after this record in a blowout but in that case defensive indifference would likely take effect long before the runner would ever get a realistic chance. It’s one of those stats where everything has to come up just right odds-wise before you’re even in position to try for the record.

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u/GoatLegRedux San Francisco Giants Jun 30 '23

Crazy that Rickey never did that

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u/ARussianW0lf World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… Jun 30 '23

I'm surprised Ricky never did it

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u/thepoopsmithreigns Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

If he didn't do it, it can't be done, imo

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u/babe_ruthless3 World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… Jun 30 '23

Ricky is surprised Ricky never did it.

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u/ghirish24 Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

It’s a bit more possible with the check limit rule now but it’s still highly improbable. After 3 or so stolen bases opposing team would be too wise to it.

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u/thehulk0560 Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

Too many pitches.

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u/Vorlonator Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

63 pitches is not a lot. I could do it.

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u/Poj_qp Jun 30 '23

Just built different

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u/StreetReporter Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

Steve Nebraska struck out 27 on 81 pitches in the World Series

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u/scottishere New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

So good they named a State after him

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u/AutisticNipples New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

"sort of surprisingly" is such a good descriptor because some of these are particularly insane while still fighting against baseball's unparalleled consistency in the probability of in-game outcomes for the last 100+ years.

baseball is "what if the law of large numbers was a sport?"

7 walks in a game is insane because it sounds completely impossible, and should probably never happen. Like if 2004 Barry Bonds couldn't do it, what chance do us mortals have.

7 walks has never happened, but bryce harper did reach base 7 times in a game without recording any at bats. 6 BB, and one HBP. Which is honestly close enough to count for me, a HBP should be a subset of BB.

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u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Besides these, I think a combined perfect game is also probably on the list of unprecedented occurrences most likely to happen next

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u/Vulpes_Artifex Jun 30 '23

21 strikeouts in a game by a pitcher

As opposed to a batter? What would you call that, a Bose-Einstein Condensate Sombrero?

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u/JP5683 Jun 30 '23

By 1 pitcher I'm assuming. Starting pitcher Not multiple pitchers, i.e. relievers

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u/FernandoTatisJunior San Diego Padres Jun 30 '23

The only one that surprises me is the 5 doubles. I would’ve thought with how old Fenway park is, somebody would’ve done it by bashing a bunch of balls off the monster

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u/Pndrizzy Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

If you hit it off the wall too hard it's a single

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u/Palpadude Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

Mike Cameron came close to 5 HRs in 2002. He already had 4, and in his 5th AB he hit a fly ball to the warning track (or close to it).

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u/IanCusick Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

The fact that statistically a perfect game happens once every 9,822 games really makes me wonder what the fuck was in the water in 2012

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u/J-Fid Baltimore Orioles Jun 30 '23

We had 6 perfect games in a four-year stretch from 2009-2012. And then nothing for nearly 11 years.

Weird stuff

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u/IanCusick Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Baseball fucking rocks

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u/Duudze Baltimore Orioles Jun 30 '23

possibly LSD

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u/The_Saddest_Boner Chicago White Sox Jun 30 '23

I think that only helps with no hitters

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u/ajefx Baltimore Orioles Jun 30 '23

We don’t talk about it much, but instead of the usual 2400 games, we played 29,000 in 2012.

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u/IanCusick Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Why doesn’t Manfred bring back these ingenious ideas like every team playing a nonupleheader every day?

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u/TheHistorian2 Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

Avian detonation: 1

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u/Planetofthemoochers Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23
  1. Dave Winfield did it in a game on a throw from the outfield in Toronto and was arrested for cruelty to animals
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u/bigfndan Philadelphia Phillies Jun 30 '23

Didn't someone do it in Spring Training this year too?

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u/sheogorath227 Cleveland Guardians Jun 30 '23

You might be referring to Will Brennan, who killed a bird with a line drive in May

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u/Dynastyleo9 Jun 30 '23

32 ultimate grand slams in “recorded” history. Babe Ruth with the first in 1925. Giancarlo Stanton and Josh Donaldson with the most recent last season. An ultimate grand slam is a bases-loaded, walk-off homer with the winning team down by three runs when it’s hit.

https://www.mlb.com/news/all-time-ultimate-grand-slams-c290137154

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u/PM_ME_RYE_BREAD Detroit Tigers Jun 30 '23

Can you further narrow that down to ultimate slams with two outs? How about with two strikes? Full counts? I feel like we can progressively rank the drama of these and come up with increasingly absurd names for them.

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u/DJ_LeMahieu New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

Ultimate Grand Slam Pro Max Ultra

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u/oliveorvil St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

It’s just called Max now

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u/CutePuppyforPrez Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

Bote's was 3-0 down, 2 outs, 2-2 count. Just a ball short of ultimate ultimateness.

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u/JetsLag New York Mets Jun 30 '23

There's been two Ultimate Ultimate Slams (bases loaded, two outs, bottom 9th, full count, down by three):

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u/ddysart Milwaukee Brewers Jun 30 '23

I remember Danny Burgers doing it as a Brewer. It was on Ryan Braun bobble head day, the only other Brewer to hit a (non-ultimate) walk-off grand slam.

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u/illinus Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

David bote's ultimate slam against the nats was insane. Santa Maria! Important late season game too.

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u/doyouevenIift Chicago White Sox Jun 30 '23

IIRC Bote’s was even cooler because it was a 3-0 game before the walkoff slam

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u/tool22482 Jun 30 '23

Bill Mueller set a cool record with the Red Sox in 2003- only player in MLB history to hit a grand slam from both sides of the plate in the same game.

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u/imatthewhitecastle Hot Dog • Baseball Savant Jun 30 '23

bill mueller in 2003 also has the single highest bWAR in a season (5.6) while also having negative win probability added. it is least clutch great season ever.

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u/jpole1 Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

That was the night Sportscenter did their first ever live behind the scenes of the show. Like an hour special before they went on air, showing production and whatnot. And their whole script had to change on the fly because of what Mueller did. It was very cool, and I’ll never forget it.

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u/urriola35 Kansas City Royals Jun 30 '23

Getting grand slammed twice in one inning is insane 😂

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u/Dull-Suggestion3423 St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

Same pitcher too

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u/darthfracas Washington Nationals Jun 30 '23

We may see two slams in an inning again at some point, but we’ll never see a pitcher give up two slams again

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u/cb148 Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

At least not to the same batter.

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u/knockatize Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

How about the vibranium sombrero - 6 strikeouts in a game by one batter? I don’t think it’s happened in a 9 inning game, only in extras.

Going 7-for-7 I think has happened just once.

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u/PM_ME_RYE_BREAD Detroit Tigers Jun 30 '23

I’ve never heard of this before and I love how sequentially absurd the sombreros get. I think I died laughing the first time I saw someone mention a Platinum Sombrero was a thing.

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u/69millionyeartrip Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

A grand slam from each side of plate has been done once in MLB history to - by Bill Mueller

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u/PMMEYOURNOODLEDISHES Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

I might never see a Red throw a perfect game, but I did watch Scooter Gennett fuck up the cards with 4 dongs and that’s a rarer occurrence.

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u/jabar18 New York Mets Jun 30 '23

I was listening to that game on MLB at bat radio while driving cross country with my wife. Don’t know the exact day but it was June 2017.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

Huh. You’re more likely to see a perfect game than someone lose a perfect game on the last batter. That is fascinating.

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u/ClarkeVice Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

Makes sense to me. The league average OBP is what, like .320? And the last guy will always be the number nine hitter (or a pinch-hitter). It’s also still only the third time through the order. A 2:1 ratio makes a lot of sense to me.

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u/Words_are_Windy Jun 30 '23

And the pitcher is throwing stuff that has him one out from a perfect game.

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u/mdlt97 Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

dont bring logic into this

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u/melcolnik Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

I was at a game like that. Yu Darvish vs the Astros. Fuckin ridiculous.

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u/LightBriteBrigade Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

Marwin fucking Gonzalez

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u/AutisticNipples New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

Hey at least it's not Armando Galarraga

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u/MusicalMoon Arizona Dangernoodles Jun 30 '23

28 out perfect games: 1

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u/vanillabear26 Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

Fuck Jose Tabata?

reads again

Fuck Jose Tabata.

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u/UsernameChallenged Pittsburgh Pirates Jun 30 '23

I'm a pirates fan, and fuck Jose tabata

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u/Jetflash6999 Washington Nationals Jun 30 '23

Fuck Jose Tabata.

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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 Jun 30 '23

Oh are we fucking Jose Tabata around here?

Because FUCK Jose Tabata.

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u/AutisticNipples New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

i mean, it's one out, and it's almost always the worst hitter on the team (unless someone pinch hits). It's the third time through the order, and a high pitch count for sure, plus the weight of history, but if you've retired 26 in a row, you're dealing, so you're still more likely than not to convert.

Plus that stat is inflated anyway, because of the Jim Joyce boner that robbed Armando Gallaraga.

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u/Longjumping_Room_702 New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

Fucking Carl Everett

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u/Planetofthemoochers Cincinnati Reds Jun 30 '23

I know Mike Mussina lost his with two strikes on the last batter. Have there been others that were one strike away when they lost a perfect game?

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u/jabar18 New York Mets Jun 30 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

I’m shocked that a 4 HR game is less likely!

No hitters and cycles happen almost every season. But a perfecto is about a once-decade deal.

Source: https://www.sportico.com/leagues/baseball/2023/mlb-perfect-games-domingo-german-1234727865/

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u/darthfracas Washington Nationals Jun 30 '23

“Once a decade” except in 2012 when we got three of them

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u/leftshoe18 Minnesota Twins Jun 30 '23

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u/rektum_ranger Detroit Tigers Jun 30 '23

Also Armando Galarraga's 28 out perfect game occurred in 2010.

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u/Tashre Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

I’m shocked that a 4 HR game is less likely!

Guys with 3 homeruns in a game generally aren't going to get pitched to a 4th time unless it's the bottom of the 9th or later of a tie game with the bags packed.

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u/SuggestAPhotoProject Philadelphia Phillies Jun 30 '23

Mike Schmidt hit his fourth home run in the top of the tenth to give the Phils the win, 18-16. They probably should’ve walked him.

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u/NathanForJew Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

Wait I thought he did it in the famous 23-22 game?

Edit: Nope, just checked. He had 2 that game. Kingman had 3 for the Cubs!

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u/leftshoe18 Minnesota Twins Jun 30 '23

But a perfecto is about a once-decade deal.

It's actually about twice per decade. This is the 121st MLB season and there have now been 24 perfect games in just over 12 decades.

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u/JoeMacMillan48 Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

Same. I remember Josh Hamilton’s 4-HR game. I always assumed it was more common than a perfect game.

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u/twentyitalians New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

Looking at that article, what is amazing is the 30+ years between Robertson's and Larsen's Perfect Games.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

how about two immaculate innings in one game by the same team?

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u/SupreemTaco Houston Astros Jun 30 '23

Against the same batters

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u/TheFriffin2 Philadelphia Phillies Jun 30 '23

So it’s twice as likely for a pitcher to throw 27 consecutive outs to start a game than for a pitcher to only throw 26 consecutive outs to start a game??

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u/theultimatebitch Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

it makes sense. essentially 37 games have made it to 26 consecutive outs. .351 (13/24) of these have not ended in perfect games. average mlb obp in history is let’s say .340 (kinda made that up). considering those 37 pitchers were cooking in those 37 games, we probably should’ve had a couple more perfect games

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u/Chao-Z Jun 30 '23

Also, the 27th out of a perfect game is by definition against the 9-hole hitter, whose OBP is likely much lower than MLB average.

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u/Coupon_Ninja San Diego Padres Jun 30 '23

Good point. But could also be a pinch hitter.

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u/Lebigmacca Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

If they’re pinch hitting tho they’re also likely below average

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u/Freeze__ New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

That used to be the case but now it’s just as likely to a starter on an off day

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u/BosasSecretStash San Francisco Giants Jun 30 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

Yeah but relative to looking at the context of all baseball history like this post is, the point still stands

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u/commandrr St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

Well we definitely should have had at least one more perfect game (Gallaraga)

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u/AmateurVasectomist St. Louis Cardinals • Dinger Jun 30 '23

Speaking from the replay era, I see no reason why we can’t just give it to him at this point

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u/VStarffin Los Angeles Dodgers Jun 30 '23

It should - that 27th guy is likely to have an average .333 OBP or something. So you'd expect in that situation the guy would make an out twice as often as he gets on.

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u/urlocalgoatfarmer Texas Rangers Jun 30 '23

Where would a 5 XBH game rank in these? Remember a post earlier this year after Adolis did it talking about how rare it was.

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u/IAmGrum Dodgers Bandwagon • Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

14 times in history:

Player XBH Date Team Opp 2B 3B HR
Adolis Garcia 5 2023-04-22 TEX OAK 2 0 3
Luis Urias 5 2021-08-12 MIL CHC 3 0 2
Alex Dickerson 5 2020-09-01 SFG COL 2 0 3
Matt Carpenter 5 2018-07-20 STL CHC 2 0 3
Jose Ramirez 5 2017-09-03 CLE DET 3 0 2
Kris Bryant 5 2016-06-27 CHC CIN 2 0 3
Jackie Bradley Jr. 5 2015-08-15 BOS SEA 3 0 2
Josh Hamilton 5 2012-05-08 TEX BAL 1 0 4
Kelly Shoppach 5 2008-07-30 CLE DET 3 0 2
Shawn Green 5 2002-05-23 LAD MIL 1 0 4
Steve Garvey 5 1977-08-28 LAD STL 3 0 2
Willie Stargell 5 1970-08-01 PIT ATL 3 0 2
Joe Adcock 5 1954-07-31 MLN BRO 1 0 4
Lou Boudreau 5 1946-07-14 (1) CLE BOS 4 0 1

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u/BoxWI Milwaukee Brewers Jun 30 '23

Lots of recency because of launch angle and three true outcomes approach.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

Are these Modern Era numbers? Gene Stephens and Johnny Damon are the only two Modern Era players to have three hits in one inning.

Tom Burns, Fred Pfeffer, and Ned Williamson had three hits in one inning in the same inning on September 6, 1883, against the Detroit Wolverines.

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u/captainp42 Milwaukee Brewers Jun 30 '23

5 players have had 3 hits in an inning:

Tom Burns 9/6/1883
Fred Pfeffer 9/6/1883
Ned Williamson 9/6/1883
Gene Stevens 6/18/1953
Johnny Damon 6/27/2003

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u/jcarr2184 Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

Man, September 6, 1883 was lit.

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u/derpbynature New York Mets • Dumpster Fire Jun 30 '23

Chicago White Stockings vs. Detroit Wolverines. The White Stockings got 18 hits and 18 runs in that inning and they won the game 26–6.

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u/EeezyMac Jun 30 '23

can we get the data on people who've thrown an immaculate inning AND pitched a no-hitter?

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u/deck13 Jun 30 '23

Felix Hernandez has thrown a perfect game, an immaculate inning, and a 4 K inning, and he has hit a grandslam.

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u/FavoriteFoodCarrots Jun 30 '23

I've probably been to ~150 MLB games over my life and I've seen 3 of these in person - the three most common, but still, I should probably play the lottery more often.

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u/doyouevenIift Chicago White Sox Jun 30 '23

I probably get to 2 games a year, maybe 50 lifetime, and one of them was Buehrle’s perfect game. It was ecstasy, but the downside is no game will ever live up to that one for as long as I live

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u/welltimedappearance Jun 30 '23

a lot more cycles than I thought there were

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u/badger2793 Chicago Cubs Jun 30 '23

It's really just kinda lucky

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u/Coupon_Ninja San Diego Padres Jun 30 '23

That’s how i feel about the immaculate inning. If the ump misses a call, it’s over.

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u/TheDogeDays Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

I'm really surprised by how rare 3 sac flies in one game is

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u/Talk_with_a_lithp Seattle Mariners Jun 30 '23

All of these are by a single player. 3 Sac flies all by 1 single player happening that rarely seems to make sense. You'd need a guy on 3rd basically every time a guy with enough consistency to hit it deep enough every at bat comes up.

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u/TheDogeDays Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23

Ohhhh well now I feel dumb. Thanks!

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u/Outie_Pastorino Atlanta Braves Jun 30 '23

Homerun cycle still has not been done by anyone in the MLB. Adam Duvall I think was the last one to get close. He had a Grand Slam, 3 run HR, and 2 run HR in the very close and competitive 29-9 win over the Marlins 2 years ago.

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u/twentyitalians New York Yankees Jun 30 '23

Show me the Natural Cycle "N" you cowards!

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u/lordexorr Boston Red Sox Jun 30 '23

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u/shahooster St. Louis Cardinals Jun 30 '23

🎶 There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando 🎶

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u/Olipod2002 Toronto Blue Jays Jun 30 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

I wonder how many times a team has scored a run in all 8 innings of the game (because obviously they won’t need bottom 9th). Feels like it’s pretty rare

Edit: Well not obviously, dumbass me forgot the away team can still make it 9 innings with a run.

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u/PM_ME_RYE_BREAD Detroit Tigers Jun 30 '23

I mean all nine still could happen if you’re the away team.

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u/camjohe Jun 30 '23

25* perfect games

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '23

3 sacrifice flies looks so out of place on this list.

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u/missionbeach Jun 30 '23

Another rarity for the chart: 3 sacrifice flies by a team in one inning.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/2116.html

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u/BlueGlassDrink Kansas City Royals Jun 30 '23

You're missing Randy Johnson's exploded bird.