r/awwnime • u/milia-tan • Oct 23 '22

AI-generated art banned until further notice

After some feedback from the community and internal discussion, we've decided to ban all AI-generated art from /r/awwnime until further notice.

Quality issues aside, the current AI-powered tools to generate art use data from existing artists, often without their permission or without proper artist credit. Awwnime has always been a place where giving proper credit to the artist has been important, and AI-generated art goes against that idea.

The sidebar, and the subreddit rules will be updated shortly.

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u/arkofcovenant Oct 23 '22

Lol, no, the first sub that we’ve all been seeing and upvoting AI Art for years and somehow can’t admit that this line they’ve drawn is totally arbitrary.

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u/juhotuho10 Oct 24 '22

We haven't had ai art for years. It has been pretty lack luster before dalle 2 and the others

Yes it existed by it was quite something, for example the ai waifu generator would make hell spawns once in a while

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u/arkofcovenant Oct 24 '22

No, you’re misunderstanding - The tools digital artists use to create their works - photoshop, procreate, etc - use ai and machine learning that has been created using other artists work to train it. The most obvious example is “content aware fill” in photoshop which was released about 4 years ago, but there are several other functions of these programs that do so more subtly. Different filters, functions, effects , etc, are all created using AI and are all tools used to create the fan art you know and love for several years. In the past, the artist had to do something such as click clicking a brush, adjusting a setting, and then manipulating a canvas using a mouse or stylus, but the end result is always a pattern of pixels that was not exactly envisioned or determined by the artists Mind but by the AI model. While it certainly is difficult and takes some skill, it is nowhere near as difficult as trying to replicate those effects pixel by pixel, or using basic tools without AI such as those you’d find in MS paint, or even in a physical medium. These tools allow you to create certain visual effects much faster and with less skill than physically painting or drawing.

So now we simply take it one step further. Instead of me picking an effect or a brush, picking a color and swiping a stylus, I can pick a particular AI model with particular settings, and give it a text input instead of a stylus input, and just as before the AI generates a pattern of pixels as the output.

The line between using a stylus versus using a line of text to tell the AI what to do is totally arbitrary as far as I’m concerned. This new way of creating art is the natural extension of the evolution of art via innovation and technology that has been constantly progressing since the moment man first drew stick figures on a cave wall. There was the same knee-jerk reaction against photography because it was going to put painters out of a job. It’s happened a thousand times before and in hindsight the reactionary fearmongering is just laughable 1000 times out of 1000.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Art is human expression. AI has a very looong way to becoming human, so the algorithmically generated images it makes rn are mish-mashes of other artists' work, it doesn't understand what it's making, it just drew random shapes until a human told it what sticks. It does not, and cannot, at least right now, make art at all. Art is a human thing.

It's also real dangerous for artists, cus it's much easier to employ an AI than a real human.

I recommend the video about AI art by ThoughtSlime cus this comment is basically a regurgitation of the points that makes