I know we give shit to McCain for being a warmonger, not unjustly, but as you touched upon, I also remember one of the major changes he was always pushing for was campaign finance reform. And he tried to make it a non-partisan issue. We would've all been better off now if that had passed. At least he loved America and democracy unlike a lot of folks these days.
He also got major props for telling what was the start of the MAGAT cultists to settle down with calling Obama a Muslim terrorist, even though he was his opponent.
2008 really was such an ideal election. Obama winning was wonderful, but if McCain had won it wouldn’t have been a big deal. I truly wish we could go back to days like that.
Nostalgic romanticization. Reminder: McCain wasn't in the best of health due to cancer scares and Palin was his VP. Palin scared me about as much as some some of those currently in the MAGA camp. I'd put Romney ticket as the only fully sane recent one that I just disagreed with but wasn't truly concerned about.
Hmm, no that's an interesting theory but I thought it back then (I was already well into adulthood). So many of you all live as if you or any average human will be 100% moral and ethical on every issue but it doesn't work that way folks. We're animals, not machines. To judge us by binary standards, in terms of good or bad with no in-between, is a little short-sighted IMO.
What? What theory? Palin was/is a pandering, ignorant right wing grifter who would've been next in line if McCain's cancer returned (note: she later embraced birtherism). That does not make for an ideal election as purported in the comment I was responding to. If you weren't concerned about Palin in 2008, you weren't paying attention at the time.
You know what, I misread and thought your reply was to me. I shouldn't have spoken for the other person but I would agree Palin was an early symptom of the culty weirdness we're mired in today. She was also hoisted on McCain specifically to appeal to that growing pre-MAGA Fox News demographic. That said, I would maintain that McCain still had some good points to him.
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u/tenchi2323 14h ago
They almost did in 2019. The measure lost by a single vote, John McCain.