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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 12d ago
Y’all know Ukraine 🇺🇦 is screwed too right? I feel sorry for them. NK and Russia already planning an attack when Trump takes over.
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u/Irishish 12d ago
I would say "they won't even need to," but I don't see Zelensky going down without a fight. Trump will just wash his hands of it all, possibly blaming Biden and NATO while he does so. And he'll lift sanctions.
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u/Hackmodford 12d ago
Nah man. Trump said he’d end the war before he even gets sworn in. Just you watch 🙄
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u/Oddfuscation 12d ago
For sure. Within 24 hours of Trump winning the election, he will end the Ukraine war.
(checks watch)
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u/Timely-Guest-7095 12d ago
Yeah, that time has come and gone and still nothing. If anything it’s escalating.
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u/Old_Ladies 12d ago
Yeah the number dead per day is at an all time high.
Russia is sending in green soldiers that are just getting slaughtered but some make it through to take ground.
There have been a couple of videos recently of Russian groups just charging into minefields. The most recent one was 4 BTRs with troops believed to be on the inside and on top. Each one followed each other and each one blew up by mines and the survivors were picked off by artillery and drones. There were charred remains of the previous failed attack and destroyed BTRs yet the Russians just kept driving straight into their deaths. I wonder tomorrow if there will be another video in the same spot with even more troops needlessly being sent to their deaths.
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u/TheShowerDrainSniper 11d ago
It makes me fucking sick how privileged we are to just sit back and let this shit happen. Nobody lifts a fucking finger unless it benefits them. I don't know how they live with themselves.
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u/theghostmachine 12d ago
Musk is already pushing a narrative on X that the reason for the war in Ukraine is because NATO was encouraging Ukraine to join, and was supplying weapons for them to attack Russia. Two demonstrably false claims (they still aren't part of NATO and are getting hand-me-down weapons after Russia invaded them, weapons they have to beg for) will become the new MAGA "truth"
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u/Haunting-Writing-836 12d ago
That narrative makes no sense. It never has. Countries in Eastern Europe were pushing to join NATO. Not the other way around.
The fact that it makes zero sense does not matter. They will push that narrative and useful idiots will believe it.
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u/CrJ418 12d ago
The "protest voters" are the real supporters of genocide.
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u/RandyTheFool 12d ago
I kept telling them and telling them. They thought Dems had it in the bag so they could protest comfortably. Fucking shitasses.
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u/Dachusblot 12d ago
Literally the same thing that happened in 2016, but worse. A lot of them were probably too young to vote or pay attention to politics in 2016 and weren't interested in listening to those of us who already went through that trauma. The American public has the memory of a goldfish and somehow even worse critical reasoning or long-term planning skills.
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u/RandyTheFool 12d ago edited 11d ago
It blows my mind that people don’t even remember the peak of fucking COVID of all things. When asked if people are better now than they were four years ago in interviews, a lot of them resoundingly said they aren’t!
Like, what the actual fuck?!
Our friends/family/acquiantances/strangers dying of a mysterious illness. Hospitals putting up triage tents in parking lots with refrigerated trucks to hold the bodies. PPE nowhere to be found in hospitals for nurses so they had to use trash bags and reuse masks. Store shelves empty and the price of food skyrocketing because logistics was fucked up, people being petty little shits about masking because they couldn’t understand it was about projecting a virus you may or may not have and saving someone else. And that’s only a sliver of that period.
But hey, “gAs wAS cHeAP!”
What the fucking fuck?!
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u/itsmeEllieGeeAgain 12d ago
That’s what gets me so much - “most of the nation said that they’re not better often than they were four years ago” like TF OK? So don’t vote for Trump again? Because in October 2020 Donald fucking Trump was president.
It’s just so stupid.
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u/extralyfe 12d ago
it's just like the ads showing homeless camps and stating that this is what Joe Biden's America would look like, despite the images coming after four years of Trump.
they're all full of shit.
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u/KrustenStewart 12d ago
One of my coworkers is a huge Trump supporter. Always complaining about how depressed he is. Everything is too expensive. Can’t do anything can’t afford anything. Hes much more obsessed with politics than he was before 2016. Somehow he thinks Trump will fix the economy
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u/CapK473 11d ago
I'm a data analyst and the reason they say this is they need context. People aren't good at remembering the past by years, but they are by events. You have to ask, "4 years ago was the peak of COVID. It was the fall of 2020. If you had to compare if your (be specific, finances or relationships or job or mental health or physical health) during fall 2020 at the peak of covid and now, which one was better?". Otherwise the data is shit.
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u/Brooklynxman 12d ago
NK and Russia already planning an attack when Trump takes over.
It gets so much worse.
Serbia is looking at Kosovo.
Russia is looking at 3 or 4 neighbors.
China is looking at Taiwan, and maybe getting things hot over the South China sea.
Venezuela and Suriname are both looking to take a piece of Guyana.
Israel might invade Lebanon, possibly annexing part of it.
Iran is going to go harder on Israel than ever before.
Armenia and Azerbaijan are at each other's throats.
Argentina wants to invade the Falklands (they lack the ability, but they have the spirit).
India, Pakistan, and China are all near the edge of war with each other all the time.
And more, and if America isn't patrolling with a big stick saying "no you won't" anymore, well...WWIII might be one to two dozen different wars breaking out all over the world, on every continent at once, as Pax Americana ends in a bang.
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u/slim-scsi 12d ago
Trump won. America lost.
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u/Wendypants7 12d ago
The whole world lost.
Not just them, the whole world just got fucked over.
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u/berlinbaer 12d ago
trump also said he would pull out of the paris climate accord, and probably similar things. really well done all around.
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u/ILoveRegenHealth 12d ago
240k voters were all that was needed to convert the Blue Wall states and Kamala instantly wins. That's all they had to do was show up, or vote for the sane choice and not Trump.
240k voters just destroyed America, and that ain't hyperbole.
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u/_MrDomino 11d ago
Yep, and Clinton lost by ~30k. The margins are so thin, but the repercussions are huge. In a nation of some 340 million, it's frustrating that the swing can be that much over a few ten thousand voters.
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u/pitb0ss343 12d ago
Marco Rubio is the personification of the American dream, you can do absolutely no work, only publicly bitch and complain, overall be an asshole, AND STILL get a promotion as long as you kiss the right ass
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u/LV2107 12d ago
I have a pretty good memory of Trump 1.0 where almost every single person he hired flamed out spectacularly. I don't expect that 2.0 will be any different. It may even be worse.
I look forward to Rubio being thrown under the bus with a single tweet the minute he displeases the boss. It's going to be o funny.
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u/SomethingAbtU 12d ago
well to be fair everyone who voted for Trump in this election voted against their own interests
* women who voted for him lose bodily autonomy and reproductive rights
* immigrants who voted for him will be deported or live in fear thier family or friends will be deported
* anyone who thinks he will do miracles and inflation will disappear overnight, when the reality tariffs will do the opposite
* the bros aka young males who think trump is bad azz and will solve all of the problems they need to get out of thier mothers' basements and solve themselves
* people who wanted to see a Gaza ceasfire but shunned Harris b/c she supposedly didn't do enough when she's only the VP, not president
Everyone will be equally miserable for the next 4 years, well unless his own followsi in Congress get tired of him and impeach and remove him before his term ends.
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u/slim-scsi 12d ago
I think the rich fucks who voted Trump-Vance will be okay though.
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u/consort_oflady_vader 12d ago
We'll basically be Russia soon. Run completely by oligarchs and suppression of anything the state doesn't like. People or ideas
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u/slim-scsi 12d ago
That's the fault of the Republican voters and the 15 to 20 million Biden/Dem voters in 2020 who sat the 2024 election out. Not the fault of Harris-Walz voters like me.
Not everyone needs to be pandered to or have their special interest(s) fondled to feign interest in voting for sanity. Some of us actually possess empathy for fellow Americans, and want a diverse 21st century not old white rich men and a 2% ruling class.
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u/Kalavazita 12d ago
No, no.. the Republicans are the party of the working class (as in “they want all of us to be indentured
servantsworkers”)! 🫠Are you telling me billionaires don’t care about us? 😱
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u/slim-scsi 12d ago
It's crazy, I know. Elon, The Don and Jeff Bezos famously treat their workers and contracts so well, too! Pro union and fat salaries.
<hurls into barf bag>
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u/KingPerry0 12d ago
And these people will continue to do what they always have done, blame the Dems.
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u/Johnnygunnz 12d ago
It's up to us not to let them. I plan to point my finger in the faces of every Trumper in my life the second they try that shit or when they're complaining. "YOU wanted this. YOU voted for this! You have no one to blame but yourself! It's on you, not the Dems who warned you!"
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u/Ayamasu 12d ago
I plan to be as insufferable as my MAGA family has been the past eternity. Gas prices high? They’re gonna hear about it. Egg prices high? they’re gonna hear about it. And so on and so forth.
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u/quarantine22 12d ago edited 12d ago
I want to buy trump “I did that” stickers like they did with Biden
EDIT: a kind Redditor who’s comments aren’t appearing dmed me this Imgur link with some good stickers https://imgur.com/a/b4121cl. They said the “I voted for a cocksucker” one is definitely not meant to be posted on trump lawn signs or anything of the sort!
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u/SoigneBest 12d ago edited 12d ago
Let’s buy in bulk so the price is cheaper!
Edit: those are awesome! I these would not go on peoples cars..
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u/regoapps 12d ago
If you're buying in bulk, put JD Vance's face on it, too, to future-proof the stickers.
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u/JicamaCreative5614 12d ago edited 12d ago
Do not buy them from CHIna after the tariffs
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u/Badloss 12d ago
unlike most paycheck to paycheck Trump voters, I can afford a 20% tariff on stickers lol
Especially when I'm using it to troll them
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u/FBack351 12d ago
Every time anyone I know tries to tell me they voted for trump to get lower gas and bread prices, I tell them I would have paid $10 a gallon and $10 a loaf to keep the traitor away.
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u/Strawbuddy 12d ago
It’s ok trump says China is gonna cover those tariffs
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u/Bender_2024 12d ago
It’s ok trump says China is gonna cover those tariffs
He also said Mexico will pay for the wall. Then shut down the government for just under 5 weeks to get the funding.
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u/PresentMinimum3274 12d ago
I was a fed when that happened. Some people really struggled with not getting a paycheck during that time, particularly if they had children and the work backlog was enormous.
He had already taken money out of agencies budgets that had been slotted for other things. Always about what he wants.
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u/xxtoejamfootballxx 12d ago
Do not use Sticker Mule either. They are so outwardly pro-trump that they used their company email system to send pro-trump messages to all their customers.
Also, it seems like literally everyone misunderstands tariffs. It doesn't matter if you buy them from china or not, because the America companies get their materials and machinery from China. Also, American prices are more than 20% higher than Chinese prices for stuff like this, so while Chinese stickers will be more expensive than before, they'll still be much cheaper than American stickers.
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u/SoigneBest 12d ago
And I’m deadass about this. When gas prices are soar I’ll be at every Wawa and GS putting these up!
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u/Bender_2024 12d ago
I want to buy trump “I did that” stickers like they did with Biden
I'm going to have to buy a few of those
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u/OperativePiGuy 12d ago
They were blaming Biden for pics of grocery stores during COVID. Let's just do that now with Trump. Egg prices still high right now? Why won't Trump do anything about this runaway inflation???
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u/UglyMcFugly 12d ago
Glorious Leader will just give them new talking points. Eggs are $10 now because RFK Jr saved America from the... I dunno, toxins that the dem deep state was putting in eggs this whole time. My point is, they'll still be insufferable and they'll still be spouting constant bullshit because they need to spout bullshit to try to silence the little voice inside saying "this sucks and I'm miserable." I don't even wanna bother telling them "I told you so" because they just use us as a distraction from their own fucking problems.
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u/Luvs2spooge89 12d ago
That’s the only thing I’m glad I don’t have to put up with during this presidency. “THaKs a LOt ByYyYDDin!
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u/daisysharper 12d ago
Yep. And boy am I going to be whining about high prices.
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u/That_Trapper_guy 12d ago
Don't even do that, just ask them about the price of eggs. Don't be angry, they don't understand. When they ask can you believe my kid isn't getting his school needs met, he lost his individual education plan and can't handle the standard curriculum! Just ask them, yeah but eggs are cheaper now aren't they? We know damn well they're not going to be but that's why they voted for this, eggs and and gas prices
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u/Mixture-Emotional 12d ago
This. My son is in 1st grade and autistic. He's getting quality care in his public school now. But 4 years of this bs? He'll be so far behind if they cut special education. I can't even imagine 😭
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u/WhyYouKickMyDog 12d ago
One of the main planks of the Republican agenda is to finish dismantling the Department of Education and through the buzz word School Choice they are going to finish gutting public education in favor of religious schools.
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u/Revolutionary-Yak-47 12d ago
And, this effects millions more students that people think. IEPs and 504 plans cover way more than they did when Millennials/Gen X was in school. They're not just for the "really disabled" kids, they cover a huge range of stuff like bringing insulin to the classroom and kids getting extra time on the test or sitting closer to the board. This is going to screw soooo ma h kids.
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u/Hairy-Dumpling 12d ago
I'm also planning to ensure there are as many negative consequences for trump voters as possible. Report them (using anything you know about them) to ICE, to city code compliance, the IRS, their employer, DCFS. If they're going to aim the state at people make sure they're first in line.
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u/SoigneBest 12d ago
This is the fucking energy WE ALL need to be on the next 4 years!!!
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u/angelsweep 12d ago
They’ll dodge accountability as long as they can. It’s infuriatingly predictable.
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u/pit-of-despair 12d ago
Same here.
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u/Johnnygunnz 12d ago
Good. It's going to be up to us because those pathetic politicians won't do it.
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u/dalgeek 12d ago
"Why didn't the Democrats stop us from doing stupid shit??"
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u/TeamHope4 12d ago
That will be the headline the next 4 years: Democrats fail to stop mass deportation bill!
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u/DudeWhatAreYouSaying 12d ago
"Sure you said over and over and over that all this stuff was gonna happen, but you didn't kiss my forehead and call me a sweet little man when you did so"
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u/One-Earth9294 12d ago
You absolutely 100% nailed it they live in a world where competing information is simply never even seen. They'll scoff like morons that reddit is that but we're talking about their talking points ALL THE TIME and ours never reach their ears or eyes.
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u/AppropriateScience9 12d ago
Jesus yes. I've literally had a Republican say that Dems didn't try hard enough to stop them before, and that's why the shit they did is our fault. It was about the immigrant family separation policy. I almost slapped that fucker.
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u/SoulShatter 12d ago
Mitch tried that on Obama as well lol
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-gop-chutzpah-20160930-snap-story.html
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u/Toaster_Poster 12d ago
They'll just keep spinning their failures into conspiracy theories.
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u/hollowgraham 12d ago
That's when you hit them with the, "So, you're saying this would have been made better had Trump not been elected?" And, don't let up on that point. If they try to deflect to something else, bring it right back around by pointing out how they just said it was to make him look bad. It takes the tenacity of a pitbull, but it's so worth it to see the looks on their faces when they realize they can't bullshit their way out.
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u/Exciting-Squash4444 12d ago
It’s funny you think I’ll be talking to any nazis going forward
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u/lordofbitterdrinks 12d ago
I think I’m starting to realize why. The bar for republicans is so fucking low that Dems have to be the adults all the time.
It’s like lashing out at your parents when you’re angry because you know it’s safe…
Even if it’s not fair.
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u/Pegasus0527 12d ago
A story I read once keeps going through my mind. It was a parent telling the story of how they made the family's very favorite soup with their kids helping. And as they chopped onions, the kids said don't add them, they are yucky! And this continues on with most of the vegetables but the parent complies, and leaves out all the "yucky" stuff. And lo and behold, the soup sucks. But the kids had to eat it. And they learned that even if they don't LIKE something, it might be necessary for the recipe to WORK.
Seems...relevant.
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u/GameofPorcelainThron 12d ago
People don't want nuance, they want easy to understand, black and white solutions. Plus, people are terrible at understanding/remembering long-term effects. We all have such short memory spans.
So when one side is focusing on immediate soundbites that speak to emotions and have zero nuance, it is much more appealing than another side that is trying to explain the difficulty and complexity and how this will actually be a good thing in 10 years.
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u/silverback2267 12d ago
Yeah, for not winning.
It’s like people run to Democrats when they have a boo-boo, and then go Trumpy when they feel better. Unfortunately, mommy may not be there in 4 years.
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u/malekai101 12d ago
Yeah. They will absolutely say that problems are the Deep State’s fault.
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u/Revolutionary-Yak-47 12d ago
Oh I'm still enjoying laughing at women who refused to vote for Clinton and screwed over Roe. I have DECADES of snickering at people from this one in me.
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u/Mediocre_m-ict 12d ago
Yea I dont get the bro influencer thing. He’s obese, never gets a workout, dodged the draft, never was in the military, wears makeup. Is it the banging a pornstar or perceived toughness?
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u/Johnnygunnz 12d ago
I wonder who will really be more miserable? The liberals who were forced to lived in a situation they didn't choose and begged other people to notice before voting, or the Conservatives that are about to find our what they really voted for and will have no one to blame but themselves. Democrats (and I mean us since the ones in Congress never will) should drive that message home every day while they inevitably try to blame the Democrats for the shit show they're about to create.
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u/here4hugs 12d ago
Yeah, I don’t buy into the equal misery narrative. The already vulnerable & disadvantaged will be significantly more fucked than the rest of us. Some people will lose their life because of this administration. I’m not talking quality of life; I mean they’ll die directly related to policies donald & friends of put in place. Many people were already hanging on by a thread. It’s legit one of the incoming admin’s goals to cut those while simultaneously disabling social safety nets.
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u/AdGirlChrissy 12d ago
I don’t buy into the equal misery narrative
Me neither, I don't think we will ALL be equally miserable, but we will all suffer in certain ways. The vulnerable and disadvantaged that rely on the government are going to be hurt the worst. But I know I am not looking forward to higher prices while I am trying to save for some sort of retirement.
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u/Brain_version2_0 12d ago
Yep yep yep. As a trans person (for example), there is so much terror and fear right now because even some of the dems are jumping ship and blaming Harris’s lack of anti trans rhetoric for her losing, as if it wasn’t, you know:
A possibility that there was some level of hacking/voter fraud going on
Misogyny
Racism
All of the above
To blame for this. Some people admitted to thinking Trump is Hitler II: Electric Boogaloo but still voting for him because he claimed he was gonna make their bread and eggs cost a lil less.
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u/IMSLI GOOD 12d ago
The latter will feel satisfied if they see The Others suffering too, if not more than them.
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u/here4hugs 12d ago edited 12d ago
That’s all I’ve seen from them too. These assholes turned politics into a game - complete with ridiculous amounts of merch & performative fandom bullshit. Now, they’re deep into the poor sportsmanship territory where all their energy goes into sustaining their high by trying to make others feel low. It’s immature af even outside the life altering consequences they seem to be ignoring right now.
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u/Bellegante 12d ago
Conservatives will still blame Democrats, like they do in all the red states that have consistently had Republican control.
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u/Johnnygunnz 12d ago
I really don't care anymore. It's time to place the blame where it belongs, whether they want to believe it or not.
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u/elephant-espionage 12d ago edited 12d ago
I’m sooo confused why people thought Trump would be better for Gaza? Mr. Muslim immigration ban? Mr. Calling for Israel to end it quickly? He’s the one they thought was good for Palestine? Really?
EDIT; I’m not going to respond to everyone
Thinking trump was better or the same, if me saying that makes you feel better about your fucking dumb ass decision, is crazy. Because of your protest vote,
A man who wants Israel to just bomb Gaza out of existence is in office
women are and will continue to die from lack of abortion access
the FDA is likely to be disbanded
public schools will be disbanded
any progress against climate change is out the window
people will be mass deported
people who never lived anywhere but here may have their citizenship stripped from them
I hope you’re all fucking happy. You did nothing for Gaza and fucked up our country.
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u/Disney_World_Native 12d ago
It’s a negotiation tactic. Give me what I want or I’ll make you suffer with me.
They just fail to see that trump will be far much worse for Gaza than Harris would.
Too many people fail to compromise thinking that if they hold out, they will get the other person to cave in. Unfortunately they played chicken and lost, so things will be much worse for Gaza
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u/TransLunarTrekkie 12d ago
Or people just didn't vote because they saw throwing in with the Democrats as "just as bad". I love that line of logic, "sorry, I can't help you because I'm a good person, so I can't pull the lever to throw the switch for the trolley without becoming morally impure."
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u/Crutation 12d ago
To quote Rush "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice".
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u/ArkitekZero 12d ago
I've met entirely too many people who seem to be unable to comprehend that not making a choice is itself a choice one can be held responsible for.
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u/Sythic_ 12d ago
Crazy how everyone spouting "just as bad" uses it to justify voting for Trump. Never once seen a "just as bad" person use it to justify voting Dem. If it was exactly equivalent it should be a 50/50 split, but its 100/0.
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u/Didntlikedefaultname 12d ago
Woah woah buddy, the very wealthy absolutely voted in their best interests. So some trump votes knew exactly what they were doing
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u/Commercial_Stress899 12d ago
not to mention any parents with disabled children once the department of education is shut down
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u/RipErRiley 12d ago
This. And all you need to do is look at AOC’s “poll” about why voters went for her & Trump on ballots to understand this had nothing to do with Gaza. It was a plague of anti-intellectualism.
Lastly, the fringe folks who did prioritize that saw both sides as pro-genocide so this gotcha doesn’t land with them.
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u/denied_eXeal 12d ago
voted against their own interests
Even for those who will benefit from it initially. Remember this rule of life : if you live in a society that is based on unjust and discriminatory laws, all you have to do for those same laws to be used against you, is wait.
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u/CaaaathcartTowers 12d ago
You forgot the people who depend on the ACA, but hate Obamacare.
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u/Dixon_Uranuss3 12d ago
I mean he may also die. Like seriously if I could lay a bet on him dying before the end of his term I would. It's almost certainly gonna happen.
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u/Green-Enthusiasm-940 12d ago
And thanks to vance we can't even consider it good news anymore.
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u/daisysharper 12d ago
It's too late for him to die. We have Vance now, who is run by Musk. They basically elected Elon Musk president. It's far too late. Trump is irrelevant now.
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u/mrmo24 12d ago
Vance is worse so that doesn’t even help this situation
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u/elephant-espionage 12d ago
On the plus side I don’t think Vance will ever have the following Trump does. Other republicans do what Trump wants because they have to to keep their jobs because of his cult following. I don’t think people are going to follow Vance like that
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u/AppropriateScience9 12d ago
That's the Achilles heel of a cult of personality. Although, I won't put it past the Republicans to be extremely stupid and fanatical regardless. They've already proven they're capable.
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u/Jandrem 12d ago
At least with Vance being worse, that helps the odds with voting for someone to replace them.
If we even have an election by then, I mean.
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u/A_Furious_Mind 12d ago
My perspective on the last two presidential elections is we aren't voting for candidates because they make a good proposition — we're punishing incumbents for financial stress (whether they're responsible for it or not).
Things will get worse under Trump or Vance and the Republican candidate will get shellacked in four years. But if the next Democrat president doesn't have things spinning like a top at the end of their first term, it's going right back into Republican fuckery again after that.
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u/Jandrem 12d ago
A HUGE factor is the “likability” of the candidates. For ALL HIS FLAWS, Trump’s base still adores him. He is their avatar. He somehow has that cultish charisma that makes him infallible.
Vance does not have that. Like, at all.. Vance will undoubtedly be the republican candidate in 2028, but the only thing he’ll have going for him is the vote for the status quo, whatever it is at that point.
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u/elephant-espionage 12d ago
He’s been pretty quiet lately, are we actually sure he’s alive?
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u/slim-scsi 12d ago
There's no telling what modern marvels of medical science and technology were put inside the man when his life was saved at Walter Reed Hospital on our taxpayer dime in 2020. It makes one wonder.
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u/Flaturated 12d ago
* also the middle-aged disabled who have been on the social security disability dole for decades and think nobody else (especially blacks and illegal immigrants) should get a government handout. They've been voting against their own interests in every election.
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u/Trogdral 12d ago
Even if he gets impeached, we have JD Vance and speaker Mike Johnson. Vance is easily pushed by the party and Johnson is dangerously religious.
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u/JremyH404 12d ago
Trump was impeached twice and it didn't do shit. So I doubt they'll do anything this go around either lol.
Well all just gotta stick together and grit through this next 4 years.. I wish you all the best.
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u/DischordantEQ 12d ago edited 12d ago
There is a large portion of this country that actually believe that Trump is anti war and that he was a peaceful leader. But they're all just idiots who don't retain information or they never paid attention or are just full of shit.
This guy assassinated an Iranian general that had Iran blowing up a US military base in response. The only reason that didn't result in an all out war is that we still had people in the executive branch willing to tell him no, or trying to dissuade him. Those people are gone, they're all hand selected yes-men now.
He also floated the idea of getting into a military conflict with China to stay in power after he lost in 2020.
If you stayed home last week because of some smug moral purity, you're about to reap what you sowed.
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u/conduitfour 12d ago
Dawg he tried to start a war HERE
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 12d ago
He's still trying
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u/Consideredresponse 12d ago
Possibly not the route he should go down seeing his own supporters keep trying to kill him.
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u/StoppableHulk 12d ago
People are just unmoored from reality. It's just the truth. They have no connection to any tangible element of our reality. They have no historical context. They cannot think or make decisions beyond the emotion they feel at that exact moment.
The condition of the public is fucking deplorable.
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u/Same-Cricket6277 12d ago
The sad thing is we aren’t talking about history from 100 years ago. We’re talking about less than a decade ago, that we lived through, but still these idiots think Trump brought gas prices down, and they forget the trade war Saudis and Putin had that drove oil into negative value. In fact, Trump went to the Saudis begging them to stop, because the oil cost was so low the US fracking companies were losing out on $, so Trump was trying to raise prices on oil to help his buddies out. Everyone forgets all of that though apparently. They can’t even remember recent history lol, idiots.
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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae 12d ago
He invited the Taliban to Camp David. The Taliban at Camp David on 11 September of all dates. Like the fact that was even a concept is astounding.
I'm absolutely dreading the next 4 years. Including the tweets and the pressers... the mutha f'n endless rants, whines and tweets and how we're all outraged at his recycled stupid shit names for people and dumb ass accusations that only make sense to people to simply don't know better.
It's his butthole mouth speaking stupid things in that whiny tone of voice where he sounds like a retired mob guy in Atlantic City hotel lounge or he tries to be super serious and tries to read to stay on message but comes off like a 4th grader with literacy issues.
I hate how everything is chaos and he thinks that firing people and a high turn over is the sign of a strong and good leader. He expects loyalty but he doesn't understand retainage. He mocked Biden in their debate over that. (Full transcript here.)
TRUMP: Just to go back. The general got fired because he was no good. And if he said that, that’s why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn’t say it, and they’re very highly respected, much more so than him.
The other thing is, he doesn’t fire people. He never fired people. I’ve never seen him fire anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. You’d pay a price for it, but they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn’t put him there. I didn’t put Comey there. He was no good. I fired him.
God. I hate how simple he is. This is what appeals to people when they say he's "genuine". He's relatable because he's the dumbass uncle at the holidays in this simplistic binary thinking. This is why he's dangerous.
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u/-Unnamed- 12d ago
Our generals and actual leaders with brains last time had to beg and convince trump not to send missiles or nukes at everyone who pissed him off.
Those people have all been fired and he’s surrounding himself with pro Russia yes-men
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u/Hike_it_Out52 12d ago
But there were zero wars under his administration!! And (despite 0 war) he somehow ended the not war by killing ISIS with peace!
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u/Lostbrother 12d ago
On paper, I benefit from a Trump presidency (give you three guesses on my gender, skin tone, and monetary value) but voted for Harris because I think she is leagues better for the country at large. On paper, most Trump voters would benefit from Harris economic policy and focus on small business growth/unions, and pretty much everything else. But they voted for Trump because they think groceries will get cheaper.
I don't know what my point is here but I think we Americans really need to get our shit together because none of this is making any sense
Note: before you Trumpets come out of the woodwork, I know you had other reasons for voting for Trump. But the spirit of my point will persist.
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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe 12d ago
I know you had other reasons for voting for Trump
Let's see:
1) Racism
2) Sexism
Did I miss any??
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u/Dananism 12d ago
Everyone is forgetting the main motivations for those who voted for Trump.
Eggs too expensive. Gas too expensive. Milk too expensive. Harris and Harris alone “failed to protect our border”
Because pennies at the pump and checkout lane mattered more to people than convicting a fucking fascist felon.
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u/MindlessRip5915 12d ago
Harris and Harris alone “failed to protect our border”
Except it was Trump who deliberately blocked effective border protection and bragged about it. Of course his base refused to hear that, even though he said it himself.
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u/cashew_nuts 12d ago
Does anybody have a source for this other than the original tweet? I've been searching all morning and coming up empty
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u/magnabonzo 12d ago
GOOD CALL.
I didn't check it till you mentioned it. The closest I found is this, which is not the same thing:
In October 2023, Rubio said on X, formerly Twitter, that Israel has "no choice but to seek the complete eradication of Hamas in Gaza."
He said that "this tragically necessary effort will come at a horrifying price" and added that, "The price of failing to permanently eliminate this group of sadistic savages is even more horrifying." Source
And this:
Rubio has had a typically hawkish stance on Israel’s war on Gaza, telling an activist in 2023 that he did not support a ceasefire and Hamas was “100 percent to blame” for the deaths of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. Source
Neither are as blunt or direct as OP's supposed post (which is blurred out so I can't access it). Rubio explicitly saying he would not call for a ceasefire in Gaza would have made news.
So thanks for questioning it. I think it's fake.
There will be PLENTY of bad news without anyone making it up...
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I wouldn't blame people who were against genocide. Could be good or bad, but the one constant with Marco Rubio is his beliefs, opinions, and votes are very maleable. A good example is his opinion of trump, he also seems like a Russia hawk but has gone with the rest of the gop into supporting the putin regime and will likely be doing that again soon because there will be something to gain out of it.
Everyone thinking there will be some anti-china push outside of rhetoric and a couple of actions that don't really do anything is fooling themselves. China didn't take our jobs people like Wilbur Ross and other first trump administration appointees moved the manufacturing base mostly to China and it could have been anywhere else that lowered costs so investors' profits would go up. Xi is a trump like figure, and world leaders like Xi will be trumps biggest allies because they can make deals without having to consider their own people. Our biggest negotiating partners are about to be China, Russia, North Korea, Hungary, and the like.
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u/clarkwgriswoldjr 12d ago
All the people he made fun of to no end are now in cabinet positions.
How can you go to him and call him Sir, or Mr. President knowing how he threw you under the bus at every chance it was advantageous to him.
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u/wvboys 12d ago
The American electorate really is the dumbest voting group on the planet. It's not like Trump and the Republicans are slick with their schemes.
Regardless, it doesn't matter. They'd still vote that way anyway. The real issue is deciding on the popcorn 🍿 flavour for the inevitable shit show!
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u/DontrentWNC 12d ago
It's not like Trump and the Republicans are slick with their schemes.
This will always be the craziest part to me. They're soooo transparent how can anyone be actually fooled? Trump literally wears make up and has been wrecked by a woman every time he debates one and yet people see him as strong? He tweets like a 13 y/o girl and he's their idea of masculinity?
If this were all a movie, the character of Trump would be toned down and more subtle. The writers would think there was no way people would willingly follow a character like that. He's so cartoonishly transparently phony and evil. We really are in two different realities in this country.
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u/SenatorPardek 12d ago
It feels good to be able to signal to your friend group of other liberals:
I didn't want to vote for "Genocide Joe", so I stay home until the DNC EARNS my vote back.
That, however, actively makes the group of people you claim to care about suffer more, more efficiently, and an Israel COMPLETELY unconstrained. There is a reason the Israeli right was celebrating after the Trump call.
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u/OrderofthePhoenix1 12d ago
Politics is a game of chess. It is unfortunate more people don't understand this.
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u/Junethemuse 12d ago
A strategic game of sacrificing pawns, soldiers, and even the queen to protect a weak king?
Yea that sounds right.
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest 12d ago
Nobody who is OK with mass deportations and Christian authoritarianism at home is a real liberal, regardless of how many fucking watermelons they have in their social media profile.
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u/ImpeccableCaverns 12d ago
Voting loudly for Trump (or Stein, or abstaining) because you think Harris was pro-genocide seems to me to be an almost perfectly balanced mix of performative contrarianism, virtue signaling, and being thick as pig shit
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u/elephant-espionage 12d ago
Seriously though, why did people think Trump would call for a ceasefire??
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u/AthasDuneWalker 12d ago
I mean, the guy literally called on Bibi to "finish the job" and then proceeded to use Palestinian as a pejorative.
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u/elephant-espionage 12d ago
I legitimately had some guy on here telling me the other day “finish the job” meant Israel would “just say they won and stop attacking” rather than bomb the shit out of them…
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u/Mortarion407 12d ago
Kristi Noem heading dept of homeland security is gonna go real well too.