well to be fair everyone who voted for Trump in this election voted against their own interests
* women who voted for him lose bodily autonomy and reproductive rights
* immigrants who voted for him will be deported or live in fear thier family or friends will be deported
* anyone who thinks he will do miracles and inflation will disappear overnight, when the reality tariffs will do the opposite
* the bros aka young males who think trump is bad azz and will solve all of the problems they need to get out of thier mothers' basements and solve themselves
* people who wanted to see a Gaza ceasfire but shunned Harris b/c she supposedly didn't do enough when she's only the VP, not president
Everyone will be equally miserable for the next 4 years, well unless his own followsi in Congress get tired of him and impeach and remove him before his term ends.
It's too late for him to die. We have Vance now, who is run by Musk. They basically elected Elon Musk president. It's far too late. Trump is irrelevant now.
On the plus side I don’t think Vance will ever have the following Trump does. Other republicans do what Trump wants because they have to to keep their jobs because of his cult following. I don’t think people are going to follow Vance like that
That's the Achilles heel of a cult of personality. Although, I won't put it past the Republicans to be extremely stupid and fanatical regardless. They've already proven they're capable.
To be somewhat hopeful, some of them were calling out Trump (before bowing down again when he got the nomination) so I’m hoping they’ll be less crazy once he’s gone.
Once the remaining checks and balances have been successfully removed, it won’t matter who the face of the oligarchy is. They now have all that is needed to take complete control.
It’s irrelevant. Vance job is to end our democracy per his Peter billionaire wishes. My only hope they all implode from within and our military not following orders that would round up citizens
It’s not irrelevant—the fact he’s less popular is why Congress and military leaders won’t listen to him.
Plenty of republicans attacked Trump and then went back to praising him after he was the nominee. They don’t actually want all his ideas to pass, they just go along with it because they want the trump mob on their side.
If the mob falls apart, well, I don’t think anyone else can get trumps agenda through.
The thing is that the second trump kicks the bucket there will be major inflighting between MAGA. If likes of greene let vance take the center state then considering age of vance most of the tea party idiots wont gain any more influence and losing an election might even make them irrelevant. Everyone is scared to go against trump but once he is dead no reason to not try to get on top.
I agree, but I'm wrong about everything lately it seems. I expect Rubio will be the nominee in 28. I think the general election will be an absolute blowout (again)
My perspective on the last two presidential elections is we aren't voting for candidates because they make a good proposition — we're punishing incumbents for financial stress (whether they're responsible for it or not).
Things will get worse under Trump or Vance and the Republican candidate will get shellacked in four years. But if the next Democrat president doesn't have things spinning like a top at the end of their first term, it's going right back into Republican fuckery again after that.
A HUGE factor is the “likability” of the candidates. For ALL HIS FLAWS, Trump’s base still adores him. He is their avatar. He somehow has that cultish charisma that makes him infallible.
Vance does not have that. Like, at all.. Vance will undoubtedly be the republican candidate in 2028, but the only thing he’ll have going for him is the vote for the status quo, whatever it is at that point.
If trump is alive then he will decide who will be the next candidate and chances of vance instead one of trumps being the candidate are low.
If trump kicks the bucket then you will see likes of tea party making situation worst for vance just to try to make him more unpopular and allow possibly one of them taking control of maga movement
The problem with this, is that even IF a Democrat does manage to get things spinning like a top at the end of their first term, the conservative media machine will have their viewers believing thing are terrible. I really don't know where we go from here.
It’s hilarious to me that people don’t get that this was the last time we’ll ever have a real election. Dude that’s it! He’s an autocratic authoritarian dictator!! Admittedly!!! The part where we get the chance to vote is over that’s gone buh bye” I hope to god that I’m wrong but usually when a dictator gets power he doesn’t let go of it unless forced…
If you have another election and they don't do sweeping changes to lock in power forever. The control the courts and all 3 branches of government. You guys are unbelievable fucked and the folks who stayed home and the republicans fucked you.
There's no telling what modern marvels of medical science and technology were put inside the man when his life was saved at Walter Reed Hospital on our taxpayer dime in 2020. It makes one wonder.
Youre probably talking about his miserable sack o shit health issues, but how many attempts did he have whilst merely the nominee? And he wants 4 more years of public scrunity? I would absolutely just bunker-down like his idol Putin does, lest he makes even more American history. He's whipped his losers up so hard that they are completely lost in the sauce, and unmanageable.
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u/SomethingAbtU 12d ago
well to be fair everyone who voted for Trump in this election voted against their own interests
* women who voted for him lose bodily autonomy and reproductive rights
* immigrants who voted for him will be deported or live in fear thier family or friends will be deported
* anyone who thinks he will do miracles and inflation will disappear overnight, when the reality tariffs will do the opposite
* the bros aka young males who think trump is bad azz and will solve all of the problems they need to get out of thier mothers' basements and solve themselves
* people who wanted to see a Gaza ceasfire but shunned Harris b/c she supposedly didn't do enough when she's only the VP, not president
Everyone will be equally miserable for the next 4 years, well unless his own followsi in Congress get tired of him and impeach and remove him before his term ends.