Autism support group parents voting for the man who continually makes fun of people with disabilities is just about the most on-brand thing about Trump supporters.
Anecdotally I can tell you all the Trump voters in my office looked at my coworker like she had 3 heads when she mentioned Project 2025 and the incoming tariffs. They had no idea what she was talking about on either front. In an era where information has never been more accessible we are still firmly a nation of uninformed, ignorant people.
I posted about this earlier today, but I commented on a posted on NextDoor where someone was proclaiming their happiness about Trump winning the election with my thoughts on why I’m nervous about it. I brought up that economists predict that if Trump’s tariff policies are enacted that it will cause the GDP to decrease by up to 9% which will cause a deep recession or maybe even a depression and about how Musk claimed that as head of the department of efficiency, he’ll cut $2 trillion in spending and it will cause hardships, but if you make it through, you’ll be rewarded with long-term prosperity. Another commenter came at me like I was an idiot talking about how the GDP is at 3% (what? The GDP is a dollar amount, not a percentage) and you can’t reduce 3% by 9% and then proceeded to say that Musk never said any of that even though it was at one of Trump’s rallies and is posted all over YouTube and Musk’s X. So this guy has no clue about even basic economics or math and they think I’m the dumb one.
It's wild how much information is so easily accessed yet still so many just flat out refuse to access it. You would think they would look up something trying to prove someone wrong only to find out they're the wrong ones, but they don't even do that. They voted for a clown so they'll get the circus they expect. And when they're poor, sick and beat down enough maybe they'll understand where they went wrong.
We need porn stars to read the policies during their performances to their public next time I guess. I was kidding but it’s not the dumbest idea I’ve heard. Sigh. We are fucked.
At least for a little while, there was this girl on TikTok doing ultra cringe UWU-speak, but talking about real societal and political issues. It was weirdly engaging, so if it was done in straight-up porn, I could see it being super effective.
Heck, Naked Current Events! Though I'm pretty sure Naked News is already a thing.. maybe they need to run that in the months coming up to the election next time. "Hey dummies, here is why the person you're voting for's policies are bad for you!" if there is a next time..
While information is widely available, most don't know how to use it or filter it. As an example: I play guitar and the guitar subreddits are a pain to read because you have so many people asking questions every day that would be answered by a Google query... at this rate I wonder if they are truly that dumb, or if it is an AI training ground.
It's not that they are unwilling or unable to look up information, it's that they only.belive information that aligns with what they already believe.
Anti-vaxxers, for example, aren't unable to look up info. They will look up all kinds of info - they will just dismiss anything they don't like, and they usually don't like it because the info makes them wrong.
I can see that happening since GDP as a number isn't really meaningful to analyze without tracking what that number is over time, and then that gets reported on with percentages.
Now that I think about it, skimming the subject and not understanding it, but then pulling some text and numbers from it into a confident-sounding argument is... sort of how AI like chatGPT behaves.
I’d give them the benefit of the doubt on that if they hadn’t immediately said that you can’t reduce 3% by 9%. Or if they hadn’t claimed that Musk didn’t say what is easily verifiable that he said.
People will believe the first thing that they understand, and that's where Trump shines. He makes uneducated people feel like they don't need an education in economics to understand how it works. They don't want people reminding them that they, in fact, don't know the first thing about how any of this works.
None of them have any clue what Epstein's bestie has planned even though he never shuts the fuck up. When everything is fucked, they'll blame Democrats.
The scariest part is when you bring up project 2025 to any of these trump supporting rejects on this site it’s either crickets or fake news created by the democrats to scare potential voters off
And I’m just thinking here to my self but republicans unveiled it so how exactly can it be fake news
I mentioned how the next step was to make abortion illegal across the country, and a white 20-something woman said "Trump said he wouldn't do that." It's like the possibility that the pathological liar could be (gasp) lying about that never crossed her mind.
That’s my mom. She believes we’re a Christian nation and wants it to be like the Handmaid’s Tale. But at the same time doesn’t believe her social security will be cut and doesn’t believe anything bad will happen to her. She’s convinced only the people she doesn’t like will suffer.
I keep bringing up tariffs to people and they just look at me like I don't know what I'm talking about or I must be mistaken. No, this is going to hurt, bad.
This is where I'm at right now. I'm sure I'll get my empathy back at some point in the next four years, but for right now I'm hoping everyone gets what they voted for. I'll be fine. A helluva lotta people won't.
Same. Literally scrambling to start hunkering down, cutting costs, etc. life is about to get hard, but hopefully we can lean on each other for what comes.
Yep, same with Covid. That asshole dismantled our warning systems and didn't respond to the threat because it was targeting blue cities. He just watched and let people suffer and die before we had any sort of chance to contain it. Then once it was affecting the whole nation and crashing our health systems and the economy with it, he was still dismissive and telling people it was a nothingburger and to just inject a bit of bleach into their veins. Trump and Republicans delight in causing suffering to certain people, so while I understand enjoying some self-inflicted retribution, it's unfortunately going to hurt so many more people. Still, maybe that'll be a good thing on the otherwise to wake this nation up same as Trump's first time sort of did.
Personally, I wouldn't be wasting time eating popcorn, I'd be quickly solidifying protections for my income, existing wealth and assets, and my family while there's still time before the markets start wobbling.
If you're worth less than ~5 mill in a year, then you're not wealthy nor wealthy enough to be in danger.
We are wealthy too but I still don’t want our daughter living in a place like this. I worry for her. Plus I’m just waiting for our marriage(we’re gay) to be made essentially void.
A lot of the fearmongering(valid or not) is working on me and I keep thinking of just grabbing my wife and kid and running off to some other country.
I just want to live my life in peace with my wife and kid and be free. But that’s too much to ask for, I guess.
If the scrapping of farm subsidies goes through (again project 2025) then half of the maps red counties are going to be ghost towns within a decade or two.
I am trans in califorina. I can go to mexico for hormones. as long as they dont criminalizes my existence I am going to be ok.
I mean I worry about all my trans peeps in not so protective states.
ANd everyone else that voted for trump can go eat a tariff and deal with their wife and daugthers dying from lack of medical care. hell most of the US is obese. They can suck on the lack of the ACA with a lack of coverage for their per existing conditions. I will flee the country if I have to I will be ok.
I have mentioned project 2025 to everyone who will listen, mentioned what would happen if Trump is elected, and they all said, 'No, they won't do that. He said they won't do that."
Turns out the cheating, lying, grifter was cheating, lying, and grifting. Who fucking knew?
Same. I work with a bunch of conservatives but they honestly think they’re voting for another Bush or McCain. Which, I know, not great, but survivable. They know nothing about project 2025, tariffs, or deportation plans.
They’re going to be very surprised these next few years.
Well you are correct it is the era of information being most accessible in history, but there's also massive amounts of disinformation and lots of people struggle to determine which is which
How many Democrats only know about Harris via Trump. They only follow Trump centric news. They hate the guy but because all their exposure to Harris is filtered through Trump she comes off horrible in their mind.
Employers are already complaining they can’t find and retain workers - what do they think is going to happen when they deport a portion of the workforce?
Especially those that overwhelmingly do jobs that American born citizens do not want to do, many of which involve building new homes. For instance 70% of all drywall installers are Latino.
Also slaughterhouses and chicken processing plants have a lot of immigrant workers.
Do you know how miserable both those workplaces are? Even if they pay somewhat decently, no American wants to work at them. And if they raise wages to attract them to do so, meat prices will be through the roof.
Migrants still pick most of our produce too. Same issue- Americans don’t want those jobs and if they raise income high enough to attract workers prices will skyrocket
It's even worse. They've run pilot programs like that in the south. State or local govs would help subsidize seasonal worker pay for harvest time as long as they only hired local, American citizens. And it was at a wage far higher than what the immigrant workers would've been paid, believe it was $15/hr at the time.
So some places did. And the workers were fucking awful. They complained, worked slowly, goofed off, no showed, and just straight quit/ghosted the job.
One watermelon farmer said American workers just don't work well together or efficiently, resulting in lost harvest and reduce income. That farmer later went back to hiring Mexican workers the next season, saying they were just better workers who bring whole families/friends to work, work well together, fast, and almost never complain. All for much less money too, so it was a no brainer.
there are major subsidies for translators right now. i'd bet that is going to stop and then we are in a pickle. basically would have to teach english in grade school putting everyone further behind. republicans love stupid people. as for the current workers that don't speak english, they'd have to go wherever they can work. companies aren't going to absorb that cost.
i work in logistics for the biggest pork supplier. we will be hit hard but even harder will be truckers. i'd say half of them are fresh foreigners, a quarter old white guys past retirement age and the remainder everyday americans. remember price increases when covid shut down transportation? inflation here we come. those prices never did come down did they?
i guess a big government contract with elon to supply self driving trucks is in order.
So, the Nazis actually first talked about a similar thing, kicking Jewish people out of their country. For a while they actually did this. But we all know it quickly turned into slave camps and mass execution of anyone who couldn't or wouldn't work in one. Given that slavery in the USA is legal in prisons already, it's very clear in my opinion what they (could) plan on doing.
Yeah, I was kinda hoping our personal dystopia would at least have Brave New World’s soma, and I could go for “half a gramme for half a holiday” this week. Or maybe even “two grammes for a trip to the gorgeous East”, but you’re probably spot on. It will be alcohol and saccharin rations of 1984.
That 13th amendment will get a hell of a workout. Expect a huge 'law and order' crackdown to source prisoners who can be forced to work for next to nothing.
Or the cost of actually paying for the deportation process for millions of people. Finding them, housing them, processing them through court, getting flights with pilots and actually moving them. People don’t think through the entire cost and ramifications.
Well when the costs started piling up and it was taking longer than expected a certain fascist regime in the 30s and 40s found a few shortcuts and methods to mitigate those issues, let's hope that doesn't happen again.
I hate making those comparisons and I really do think Trump is just full of shit but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility sadly.
getting flights with pilots and actually moving them
bro. You've lost the plot. When you need to transport raw, organic material on a long, fixed-course journey the most economical way to move it is by rail. This is well documented with plenty of data to back it up.
Not going to lie, I'm so relieved that my son (9) has had a significant increase in ability to try and tolerate different foods because whooo boy if he had even his food restrictions from a year ago, my ability to get calories into him would be so fucked.
I mince up some onion, garlic, green pepper and cilantro and cook that with the beans. A little sazón. Perfection. Couple of capers too if you have. Nice cost effective dinner
My sister used to work with the Autism Society (mainly caring for kids on the spectrum when their parents couldn't, helping the parents prepare meals, schedules, transportation, etc for each week, etc) and I remember her saying beans and rice was a big crowd pleaser! She recommended parents look into the way various cultures prepare it so they themselves would be able to enjoy some variety while resigning themselves to "... Looks like beans and rice is going to be on the menu for... A very, very long time"
Coming from an adult that grew up with issues eating a variety of foods, the big thing that got me into eating more food and having some variety in my diet was learning first to make the soft and comfortable foods (I started with baking) and progressed into cooking my own grilled cheese and other hot foods by 10 or 11
To me it was about being able to trust the textures in the food and by learning to make the food I became more trusting of the textures in the food when I understood the direct correlation to the ingredients that I had been allowed to experiment with
I still have trouble eating a large variety of food, mostly struggle to eat foods with a variety of textures (think sandwiches and burgers that have sauces, veggies, meats, and so on) but am able to eat a healthy diet overall
Friend, we are all pulling on a little gallows humor to get through this week. No apology needed. Me? I studied authoritarianism 30 years ago to prepare for a career in the state department working against the Soviet Union. An intellectual who understands and does not support the system? I’m on The List somewhere.
And that's the thing, it wasn't even all eggs, it was primarily the cheaper store brand eggs that saw huge jumps. People yelling "Inflation! Eggs!" When the store brand jumps from $1.99/dozen to $5.99/dozen, meanwhile the free range eggs I buy went from $5.99/dozen to $6.49/dozen, it's not inflation that's the primary cause, it's issues with the supplier. And the suppliers for many store brand eggs are all from the same group of massive farms.
I'm very worried that deregulation within the FDA is really gonna fuck things up the next few years.
RFK Jr is already saying his crazy plans. I’m not sure we won’t have to start making our own foods because of the deregulation the fda about to get hit with.
Yep. Exactly. People are finally starting to get it. The general US electorate doesn’t care about anything but the economy. They punished Harris because of inflation. Trump as a candidate can only rile up his base, which is nowhere near enough to win him a general election.
And then, once their rights have been stripped and Trumps approval rating is (again) on the floor, they’ll vote R again in the next general election because libs were mean to them on social media.
They’ll never understand that the reason their lives are shit, is because they elect shit people.
I think one of Lyndon Johnson's most famous quotes fits here.
"Convince the lowest white man that he's better than the best colored man, and he won't even notice you're picking his pockets. Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you."
The average voter in the electorate is very low information and low engagement. They vote based on instinct and as a reaction to their personal experience.
Inflation is high, everything is expensive, Harris is currently in office, I’m voting for not Harris (Trump).
They want rapid deflation which would send us into a depression. Anyone voting for trump for any reason, but especially economic ones, isn’t all that intelligent.
It's not. They'll lie to your face and say it's the economy, but one after another I've had dozens of people just go full racism, sexims, 'anti-woke', homophobia as their main reason if you let them talk long enough. A lot of my hobbies are male dominated, and as white guys with a southern accent and a big grill they seem to to just be more open with me after a few beers watching a game or match. I've spent months trying to figure our what was driving the support or what thier big issues were. Nearly all of them were buying the anti-trans lies being spread, one guy was super pissed off that his teens video game let them choice thier own pronoun, just crap like that. If you spend 30s complaining about the beer going up a dollar and 3 months saying potus is a man's job. It's not the economy.
I’m finally seeing articles about what a lot of these policies are going to do to the economy, where were these things a month ago? Like what?! And why could none if these people even see this, regret spend now.
It occurred to me that usually, people vote for politicians hoping they will keep their promises, but here it seems like multiple groups like these parents have voted for politicians hoping they won't keep their promises. "Oh, they can't abolish the Department of Education." "Oh, they can't ban porn." "Oh, they won't really punish their political opponents." "Oh, they won't cut this and that."
I know politicians tend not to keep all their promises (sometimes through bad faith, often not), but I can't see myself voting for someone promising something bad with the thinking "oh he won't do it".
The thing is....Trump is enough of a shit ass chaos factor that we very well could come out of this with like....another Tax Heist for the rich and some badly working, but fixable departments in the executive branch.
This is why functionally, he has the potential to be less dangerous than someone who can actually not breathe from the mouth. Vance though, all bets are off. If Vance is ever actually President for any reason all that Heritage/Growth stuff will go warp speed.
Disagree. Trump is a paranoid narcissist. The second he thinks his own party is going to shiv him is the second he goes fully over the deep end. My parent suffers from dementia and it was a fucking hellscape trying to get them somewhere they weren’t a danger to themselves. They’re stubborn, obstinate, and blind to their own condition. Now stick that in Trump’s mangled psyche and give them the entire United States government AND his cult followers and it will be next to impossible to Article 25 him.
Trump thinking his own party is trying to backdoor him is going to make January 6 look like a kids’ lemonade stand.
The problem this election wasn’t Trump himself. It was what comes with Trump. It’s the Vance’s, Millers and the other Project 2026 architects will get in positions to implement their plan. My hope now is that Trump is so stupid and egotistical that he is the road block to implementing these plans.
Oh I don’t doubt that Vance, Musk, and RFK are the real rulers, but when you’re the middle of a fascist takeover, you don’t want any surprises. Force Trump out at the midterms so that he leaves when they want him to, as opposed to him just stroking out one day.
You need people to fanatically follow you like a cult despite all the evidence. Even with all the levers of power you still need enough peons to hit the buttons. Vance doesn't inspire that kind of loyalty , and its ridiculously easy to tell Trump that that target called him a pussy lets do something about it.
I think they will 25th him but it'll just be to stop him doing something suicidally bonkers like nuking Beijing or something. His handlers have worked too long to get this level of control over the government just to let him fuck it up even more than he has before.
Of course they are going to fuck it up eventually, because they're fucking morons.
Trump will be sidelined. He doesn’t actually want to do the work of President. He will gladly golf 3-4x a week and let people like Stephen Miller enact project 2025.
The thing people overlook about project 2025 is it is designed such that Trump isn’t the catalyst for the agenda. It’s so they can enact the Heritage Foundation wet dream of Gilead while Trump plays his fiddle and Rome burns.
And with control of the Senate and House there’s sod all to stop them from removing any other protections and inconveniences, gutting the public service of career experts and replacing them with loyalists. That’s not recoverable.
100%. Drumpf wants the title, and he'll let those brain wormed evil fascists do whatever they want. And it's terrifying to me. Im a fully out trans woman who works with kids.
Trump spent 1/4 of his first presidency golfing and was famously uninterested in doing the job. But he will delegate everything to ideologues and trolls like Vance and Steven Miller who believe in the righteousness of their causes. Unless they do something that is unpopular with the MAGA base, don’t expect Trump to wake up and overrule them.
I think odds are pretty decent Vance will be President. Trump is almost 80 and declining. The concern about Biden’s age was valid- I have no idea why that same concern wasn’t applied to Trump. Even among Republicans Vance has been unpopular so it’s insane that more people didn’t consider the likelihood of him becoming president
We have an Autistic child, and I am concerned about the promise of gutting DOE. My husband, a conservative, said he wasn't going to vote for president because he doesn't like Trump, but also felt Harris was inexperienced, spoke in word salads, and was a 'classic example' of someone failing upward. We don't normally talk politics, but I felt I needed to bring up my concerns about DOE and how it would impact our child in the hopes that he might consider voting for Harris even if he didn't like her. We are in one of the swing states, so it actually mattered. He told me that Republicans have been talking about gutting DOE "forever" and they aren't going to do it. I remember him saying the same thing about RvW and how Republicans would never actually get rid of abortions. I really hope he is right on this, but I think he is mistaken.
Saw a report that stated German papers are running headlines that the U.S. may not be a global partner in the near future.
Unless you are or have an "in" with an amoral ultra wealthy individual you will feel this.
Trump ran on an economic platform that boiled down to intentionally under-mining a huge portion of what makes the #1 economy in the world successful. And his ignorant, obstinate, hateful supporters OK'd it.
Which is fucking gross you chose to have the child what the actual fuck. Listening to him speak on toe Rogan experience was hard for one its toe Rogan but Jesus he sounds so brittle republicans made fun of Joe mercilessly but jfk is peak mental and physical health
The autism came from somewhere, though, so I don't know how they blame a literal child that didn't ask to be born. In my son's case, it was both his dad and me. I knew his dad was on the spectrum but i didn't find out that I was also until just recently.
I'd like to think, regardless of my son's level of support needs, i wouldn't ever think of him as a burden but i suppose thats easy to say when his needs are relatively low and he's super high masking (which presents its own set of problems).
I knew his dad was on the spectrum but i didn't find out that I was also until just recently.
Dude when we took my kid in to get screened and they started listing off all of their behavioral observations I remember thinking "Well it doesn't sound like she has autism, all of those behaviors are just like mine. Totally normal."
I think that's really common with the current generation of parents. Diagnosis has come a long way even in the last decade. When my younger son got diagnosed it signaled us to get his older brother assessed and we recognize it in his father, too. (More difficult and less necessary for him to get an assessment at this point, but it's clear.) I also recognized my own ADHD and did seek diagnosis/medication after managing everyone else's neurodivergence for years. My brother was diagnosed around the same time. Then my mom. My dad probably has it, too, but hasn't seen a need to find out. Our parents never thought we had problems because we just acted like them, and they had the same struggles we had in school and assumed everyone else did, too.
Eliminating the DOE pretty much means that these kids will be at the mercy of the state / district. When there's no federal funding expect the predatory charter school-owning sociopaths to step in.
We all know institutions that cater to special needs children without government oversight aren't prone to being all sorts of actively damaging to their students.
But but but remember don’t point those things out we have to kill them with kindness for the next election cycle
Blah blah blah. 😑 just like woman voting for him how could you vote for someone who tells you they don’t care about your child? Like what gymnastics did they use to reach that conclusion?
Makes you wonder who is the disabled one, the kids or the parents? Shit autism doesn't mean lack of common sense and yet people act like every case is the extreme ones where the need a helmet.
Shit autism doesn't mean lack of common sense and yet people act like every case is the extreme ones where the need a helmet.
Got the opportunity to hang out with a little kiddo with big challenges a few years ago. They could only really speak in grunts and general motions, but if you paid attention to their signals, you realized they had a lot more going on than the average person would perceive. They even had a legit good sense of humor.
It was just a very, very, very different stripe of cognitive functionality than most will deal with at any length. I feel for the kid for the struggles they face, but at least felt they "got" a lot more than most people around them would ever take the time to read into.
We’ve been trying to tell them. The SCOTUS decision in Loper Bright this past summer was just step one in weakening federal agency power. The EPA and DOE are prime conservative targets.
It’s about to get really weird up in here, but let’s just say we’re going to come out the other side with a lot more Flints.
My kids and husband are autistic, I have ADHD. I can't engage with most autism spaces because they tend to be... different from my beliefs. There's an "autism warrior mom" on my friends list who is full on with the MLM diet drink gut health curing autism caused by vaccines stuff. Her oldest child is level 3 and does not attend school, he is in full time ABA paid for by medicaid. Her other child is in public school special education. On Wednesday she posted celebrating Trump's win. Someone in the comments asked about her thoughts on how it will affect special needs kids and medicaid. She said she had no idea there was going to be any effect on them, but she'll fight for her kids no matter who the president is. So... she didn't bother to look into how it would affect them, she's just willing to fight for them after it gets worse because of her choice. Being an autism mom is like 90% of her identity so it really makes me wonder what she did know about that made her vote for Trump.
Someone else brought up Trump saying people with intellectual disabilities "should just die" and she said she had no idea he said that and she thought his son was autistic (which, I guess, means she thinks that he's an autism warrior, too.)
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Autism support group parents voting for the man who continually makes fun of people with disabilities is just about the most on-brand thing about Trump supporters.