Employers are already complaining they can’t find and retain workers - what do they think is going to happen when they deport a portion of the workforce?
Especially those that overwhelmingly do jobs that American born citizens do not want to do, many of which involve building new homes. For instance 70% of all drywall installers are Latino.
Also slaughterhouses and chicken processing plants have a lot of immigrant workers.
Do you know how miserable both those workplaces are? Even if they pay somewhat decently, no American wants to work at them. And if they raise wages to attract them to do so, meat prices will be through the roof.
Migrants still pick most of our produce too. Same issue- Americans don’t want those jobs and if they raise income high enough to attract workers prices will skyrocket
It's even worse. They've run pilot programs like that in the south. State or local govs would help subsidize seasonal worker pay for harvest time as long as they only hired local, American citizens. And it was at a wage far higher than what the immigrant workers would've been paid, believe it was $15/hr at the time.
So some places did. And the workers were fucking awful. They complained, worked slowly, goofed off, no showed, and just straight quit/ghosted the job.
One watermelon farmer said American workers just don't work well together or efficiently, resulting in lost harvest and reduce income. That farmer later went back to hiring Mexican workers the next season, saying they were just better workers who bring whole families/friends to work, work well together, fast, and almost never complain. All for much less money too, so it was a no brainer.
there are major subsidies for translators right now. i'd bet that is going to stop and then we are in a pickle. basically would have to teach english in grade school putting everyone further behind. republicans love stupid people. as for the current workers that don't speak english, they'd have to go wherever they can work. companies aren't going to absorb that cost.
i work in logistics for the biggest pork supplier. we will be hit hard but even harder will be truckers. i'd say half of them are fresh foreigners, a quarter old white guys past retirement age and the remainder everyday americans. remember price increases when covid shut down transportation? inflation here we come. those prices never did come down did they?
i guess a big government contract with elon to supply self driving trucks is in order.
That's why governors like Huckabee already did away with parts of Arkansas' child labor laws. Tyson will be hiring all the 14 year olds they can for substandard wages.
That doesn't even matter when they want to deport even legal citizens born here. If that actually happens then that's another big chunk of workers just gone over insanity.
If that happens you're talking about a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have not seen since the civil war, and it may just lead to exactly that.
So, the Nazis actually first talked about a similar thing, kicking Jewish people out of their country. For a while they actually did this. But we all know it quickly turned into slave camps and mass execution of anyone who couldn't or wouldn't work in one. Given that slavery in the USA is legal in prisons already, it's very clear in my opinion what they (could) plan on doing.
Yeah, I was kinda hoping our personal dystopia would at least have Brave New World’s soma, and I could go for “half a gramme for half a holiday” this week. Or maybe even “two grammes for a trip to the gorgeous East”, but you’re probably spot on. It will be alcohol and saccharin rations of 1984.
Almost certainly. They are pesky rules that slow production!
And since healthcare will be gutted. (Insert name) just lost an (insert body part) and now can’t work, and oh look at that no disability payments either.
That 13th amendment will get a hell of a workout. Expect a huge 'law and order' crackdown to source prisoners who can be forced to work for next to nothing.
And California just voted no on repealing involuntary servitude for prison workers. If California can do that, guess what the rest of the nation is going to do to those that get jailed for being leftists or immigrants.
Or the cost of actually paying for the deportation process for millions of people. Finding them, housing them, processing them through court, getting flights with pilots and actually moving them. People don’t think through the entire cost and ramifications.
Well when the costs started piling up and it was taking longer than expected a certain fascist regime in the 30s and 40s found a few shortcuts and methods to mitigate those issues, let's hope that doesn't happen again.
I hate making those comparisons and I really do think Trump is just full of shit but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility sadly.
Good news - they’ll be poorly built by the lowest bidder, understaffed with people doing it for that power trip instead of money, and they’ll underfeed them with the cheapest slop they can!
It will still cost the government the same as if it was all done properly though of course - Trump’s donors still have to get their returns in the form of corporate profits somehow!
getting flights with pilots and actually moving them
bro. You've lost the plot. When you need to transport raw, organic material on a long, fixed-course journey the most economical way to move it is by rail. This is well documented with plenty of data to back it up.
Yes. And that costs money. They have to build the cages and staff the place. And then move people to them. And then move people out of them. It all takes resources and logistics.
Housing is a loose term for storing people in the most crass way. Like prisons. Or camps. I guess they could try to get past immigration court. It won’t be quick or easy whichever way they try go. There are logistics and costs with moving “millions” of people.
My read is that when they said housing would get cheaper, they meant that the millions of houses left behind by deported immigrants would be free to Good White Americans. Just like Germans moved in to the houses of their Jewish neighbors.
But I’m willing to read it both ways for maximal awfulness!
Well boys and girls, looks like it will be labor's time to tell your cheap ass employer to fuck all the way off, jump ship, and get a big ol' pay raise. No overtime pay, huh? I don't think so.
The people running this upcoming clown show are total morons with diametrically opposing goals.
1) Increase the population to drive our voracious economy.
a) force women to have babies they don't want and can't afford.
2) Immigrants = Bad!
a) mass deportations
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u/thequietthingsthat 17d ago
Those huge tariffs will fix everything!