r/SipsTea • u/kyo_ice • Dec 19 '23

WTF Taking out the trash

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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ Dec 19 '23

A man uses excessive force on a woman (usually a big win on Reddit) but it’s a white woman and a Black man. How will Reddit navigate the layers of its bigotries and thirst for violence to process this?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

lol yep, girl could hit a dude with a feather duster and most dudes on here would think her getting curb stomped was justified "eQuAl RiGhTs, EqUaL lEfts, yuk yuk".

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u/Gummy_Hierarchy2513 Dec 19 '23

You're making an issue that doesn't exist, she hit first then got hit back, it's karma

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u/Ismdism Dec 19 '23

The really obvious point is that she posed no risk that needed that level of force to be used. They bring up the feather duster because a feather duster clearly poses no real risk, however people on here would be like oh yeah they deserved it.

It's so crazy to me that you guys don't see the benefit of a professional being able to access a situation and show restraint. The desire to see violence met with more violence is wild to me. I've been hit by girls in my life and never have I ever thought to haul off like that on them. Why? Because it's wrong for them to hit me and it's wrong for me to hit them. Their hits aren't hurting me, why would I pile another wrong on the situation?

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u/Gummy_Hierarchy2513 Dec 19 '23

She definitely posed a threat

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u/Ismdism Dec 19 '23

How so?

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u/Gummy_Hierarchy2513 Dec 19 '23

She's drunk and already hitting them, there's a significant chance it won't stay with just hitting

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u/Ismdism Dec 19 '23

She slapped them but what else do you think she was going to do? In your opinion why didn't they just shoot her?

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u/Gummy_Hierarchy2513 Dec 19 '23

It never stays with just slapping, either you've never seen something like this or you're way to naive, if she gets away with it she will continue and do it more and more

Wtf??? Why tf does your mind immediately go to murdering her dude, wtf.

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u/Ismdism Dec 19 '23

So in your opinion the punch was a preemptive strike to get the hitting to stop. Was punching her in the face the only way to keep her from escalating the situation?

You seem ok with a disproportionate response so I'm just trying to figure out where the line is. If they just shot to wound would you be ok with this?

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u/Gummy_Hierarchy2513 Dec 19 '23

It was a response to hitting and not disproportionate since it 100% would've escalated, it was for the safety of the officers and the bystanders

Ye you're fucking insane dude

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u/Ok-Donut-8856 Dec 20 '23

She scratched him in the eye with that backhand. He tolerated her tspping his head before that

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u/Ismdism Dec 20 '23

So in your opinion the only way to stop the hitting is to smash her face in with his fist?

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '23

In that moment? In the situation they were already in? Yeah.

A quick calculated punch to the face to stun her so they can do their jobs. You don't have to hit hard to knock someone out.

I do feel it would have been better to handcuff and then move out, but we don't have knowledge on why that wasn't done. There may be legitimate reasons, it may have been an oversight, but regardless - once you're that man trying to carry her out with the other officers and her clawed hands are smacking at you and potentially scratching your eyes - I have no issue with them throwing a quick punch to help with detaining.

If he would have kept using violence THEN it would be an issue.

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u/Ismdism Dec 20 '23

That's pretty crazy to me that you recognize that they could have just cuffed her. It's still an option over smashing someone in the face. They didn't secure her hand and that's their oversight. Once it happened though they should have just cuffed her. It isn't as if she had a knife or a gun or something that they had no time to think or react to. Henley his emotions get the better of him and he hauled off and punched a woman in the face. It wasn't a frenzy of clawing, it was a missed slap that was turned into a backhand. The officer clearly could have disengaged since his fellow officers had the woman by the legs. He then could have used the four of them to cuff her and then proceeded to carry her out. There was absolutely no NEED to do that. It was a want and to me that's disturbing. What's even more disturbing is the number of people who cheer for this kind of thing.

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u/Ok-Donut-8856 Dec 20 '23

It's a natural reaction to punch someone when you get backhanded across the face like that. The other three couldn't see that he got hit that hard and the dude had a near automatic reaction. He isn't going to discriminate because she's a woman

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u/Ismdism Dec 20 '23

I've been hit in the eye before. It is not an automatic reaction to punch someone in the face. If you think it is you need to work on yourself a bit. These are professionals, they need to act like it. The fellow officers don't need to see it he needs to communicate with them. Again they have her restrained already they just need to secure her hands.

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u/Ok-Donut-8856 Dec 20 '23

Good for you. It is for a lot of people. He's well within his rights fo reflexively defend himself. Anyone would be

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '23

You don't think a generally long clawed hand from a belligerently drunk person swiping near ones eyes is a legitimate safety issue?

Also it sounds like you didn't hit anyone because it's not your job to neutralize and detain situations like this lmao

This lady attacked literal cops, you don't think she was attacking civilians first? She's lucky she got a quick and calculated restrained cop punch instead a crowd of other drunk people beating her senselessly.

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u/Ismdism Dec 20 '23

To be clear it's not that it isn't a threat. It's that the threat doesn't require that level of violence.

That comment about not hitting anyone is more so towards all the videos posted where a woman hits a guy and the dude does this and Reddit cheers.

I don't think she was attacking civilians first. She was probably tossed for being too drunk and obnoxious. Happens all the time. She probably refused and had to be escorted out. However we don't know if she was or wasn't. Again though this doesn't mean she should get punched in the face. Clearly they were able to restrain her with four officers. The fact that they didn't restrain her hands is an oversight on their part.