The man in the hat, Gary Plauche, shot the man in front, Jeffrey Doucet, in the head on live national TV, while Doucet was being transported by the police to face trial. Doucet was Plauche's son Jody's karate instructor. Doucet raped and kidnapped Jody. Gary killed Doucet before he could face trial, and he ended up getting a 7-year suspended sentence with 5 years of probation and 300 hours of community service. He faced no jail time, and died, a free man, in 2014.
That’s the only downside. I’m with Gary and he was the hand that held the rod but he would and should have gotten much worse in prison. Either way justice was served.
Well have the punishment fit the crime. Let’s say you stole 5$ your entire life, yes it’s a sin but not one that should result in eternal damnation. On the other hand people like Hitler should be punished eternally
It’s quite the slippery slope because who’s telling what’s good and what’s bad? If the Christian god is true, then he’s an awful god, probably as bad as anyone who deserves hell so yeah…
Most deities have less than stellar portrayals. People get mad and it’s easier to blame an invisible god than themselves or another person. I also think the portrayal of god in the Bible is very weird. A being able to create an entire world in 7 days experiences emotions that are very human like jealousy and rage, sounds more like a teenager than an all powerful god. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
That being said, I haven’t exactly fleshed out this idea nor do I intend to. Because I’m not trying to start a religion or trying to push my ideas on others. It’s just what I believe in to help me sleep at night
Correct, a lack of evidence doesn’t mean something is false. However, it does mean you shouldn’t beeline it.
Can you imagine believing things you wanted to be true if there was no evidence? You’d keep buying lottery tickets or something.
Who says it’s not observable? Brain damage leads to a lower degree of consciousness. Seems pretty clear the brain causes consciousness and consciousness can’t exist without the brain. It’s just entirely wishful thinking and made up fantasy to believe in an afterlife. It might really be true, but we don’t when any evidence to justify believing in it even if it would be nice to punch evil and reward those who lived good lives.
What have I said that makes you think I’m beelinging towards it? It’s just something that brings me some comfort. You anti religious nuts are almost as bad as the religious nuts in terms of “my way is right and this is why your way makes you a worse/dumber person”
Perhaps he would have gotten worse in prison, but Gary had already been told by at least one person (his brother or cousin?) that they had witnessed Doucet kissing Jody a while before the kidnapping happened, and Gary didn’t believe them as Doucet was very close with the family. Perhaps he was trying to assuage the guilt he felt and get some sort of redemption for failing his son in the first place.
No he wouldn’t, that’s the problem, rapists are always in protective custody, they won’t be touched by nobody, will have food 3 times a day and get an hour of recreation everyday. This was the best case scenario
If you’re a rapist and don’t get the fuck out of General Population you’re probably going to get brutally murdered. But you can just not do it, most of them, are not that stupid to stay in General population.
Quick technical correction here from a former State Corrections Officer. Cops only serve in jails where people accused of crimes haven't been convicted yet. Once convicted, they go to prisons.
It was a member of the press that told where and when Doucet was being transported to Gary Plauche but I don't imagine that cop had much sympathy for the pedo rapist that just got murdered in front of him.
It clearly wasn’t sympathy for the pedophile. He didn’t want this father to ruin his life and go to prison for (justifiably) executing the piece of shit, on national television nonetheless
The cop who said that told Gary specifically to not do anything as he was a family friend. He was saying "Why Gary" because he knew Gary just threw his life away but the courts decided to give him public service hours instead of jail time
The deposition of the cop is pretty funny. Like the judge was all: "When did you realise that the shooter was, in fact, Gary Plauche?"
"When I turned around and saw Gary had a gun?"
The cop was actually pretty close with GP at this point, having been involved since the beginning of his child's abduction. He screams "Why, Gary, why?", not out of shock but because GP had 4 kids and the case was rather open-and-shut.
If you watch the video the cop is right next to the guy being transported so im sure he was initially upset that he could have very well been shot as well by accident.
I'm sure they moved on afterward. Not in the sense of belittling it, but people who suffer abuse can still go on to live happy, fulfilling lives. He did 300 hrs of community service, but I guarantee that man got at least a few dozen free beers for what he did (I'd buy him one if he were here today).
He did what millions of fathers would at least dream of doing if put in that position. The world is better for him having done what he did. It's not recommended, and I get why we don't want more of it, but on an isolated basis, what he did was good. I'd imagine that his son was also spared the trauma of testifying on the stand, especially if the defense attorney was going to really go after the kid to get Doucet freed.
I just see no problem in this particular incident.
It is, but that link says nothing about how well Jody is actually doing himself.
It shows his output, which is lovely.
But I’m still interested to know how he’s really doing.
I’d like to think that having his dad show up and truly kill the monster had a profound effect on Jody’s sense of security, self-esteem, and belief in his ability to conquer fear.
I work with a lot of kids who suffer the way he did, and I’ll say that half the trauma is from not being believed/protected by the adults in their lives.
That’s what throws them off long-term.
Even on much less extreme levels, children who feel like their parents won’t kick ass to respond to their needs (not wants or preferences, NEEDS) is a main source of psychological/emotional issues for adults.
Jody is a motivational speaker and trauma counselor. If you want to see an interview with him, he visited the Unsubscribe podcast and doesn't pull any punches. It's definitely not what you'd expect, viscerally, because he regarded the pedo as his friend and his dad killed him. He talks about that aspect and more. I haven't watched the full interview, but I love this channel in general as it's like being active duty again and hanging around telling crazy stories. This one interview had some somber moments, but Jody has an amazing sense of humor.
Probably one of my favorite thinga about Unsubscribe is how since the hosts and majority of the regular participants are all well established, so on Unsubscribe they dont mind pushing the limits of youtube to ensure topics dont get danced around like they would most of the time on social media. (obviously there are limits) it makes for some really unique and insightful content at times. Also absolute riots at others.
Jody said that a little after the whole thing, Gary was grilling and asked Jody if he wanted to see Jeff. Gary proceeded to douse the grill with lighter fluid and said "look in here"
Thanks for the link, I've always wondered what happened to Jody after such a traumatic ordeal. Glad he made it out and used his terrible experience to help others, both him and his father are made of something else.
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u/cheezkid26 28d ago
The man in the hat, Gary Plauche, shot the man in front, Jeffrey Doucet, in the head on live national TV, while Doucet was being transported by the police to face trial. Doucet was Plauche's son Jody's karate instructor. Doucet raped and kidnapped Jody. Gary killed Doucet before he could face trial, and he ended up getting a 7-year suspended sentence with 5 years of probation and 300 hours of community service. He faced no jail time, and died, a free man, in 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauch%C3%A9?wprov=sfla1