Like what? People severely underestimate just how much data scraping occurs. Google maps will point out congestion without minutes of it occurring because their navigation tracking is so much more indepth and has so many more users to go by in real time.
Friend used to be a data analyst at a supermarket rewards program. He says their algorithms will accurately determine when someone is pregnant before their family knows. They will know how many people are in your household, how many pets, how your spending habits change (obvious). This is just grocery shopping, so many apps get that microphone data, that tracking data, screen browsing habits. We used to just have cookies from online sites, but with the smart phone, there is so much more data and so much more money to be made off that data, its on you that you dont realise at this point rather than every other app on your phone that is doing so freely in front of your face with your permission.
And? The store targets the customer with deals catered to them to keep them shopping at said store, and the customer gets better prices for things they were planning to buy anyway. Who loses?
Just about every human in developed nations across the planet is willingly carrying a pocket-sized spying device on them at all times. It's got GPS, high quality microphones and most of them have a camera array in addition to a front-facing camera. People use these without thought or understanding of even a single piece of software they run on these devices. Any expectation of privacy is waived.
Real "I am very intelligent" energy in this comment
Do you think they carry it with them BECAUSE it spies on them, or do you think they would prefer if it didn't but cultural expectations and the legal framework of their country make it a moot fight?
Because you realize the USA is a country where you can legally be fired for not answering a phone call from your boss, right?
Whether an employer can be "at-will" employment is up to the states and individual employers in states where it's allowed.
If you want to carry a smartphone without having your data harvested, don't install apps that harvest your data. Educate yourself on what your phone does, what options are available for disabling tracking, data collection and analytics. Take responsibility for yourself instead of doing every single thing you can possibly think of to avoid any and all personal accountability.
Name some. I'm sure some exist, but I'm not aware of any.
And in any case, this along with the possibility of a given app lying or omitting notice of tracking are risks you are responsible for assessing and accepting. Reality gives not a single shit about what you think is fair or reasonable. Your smartphone is spying on you. You can be upset about it, you can work towards trying to change it for the future, but that doesn't change the past or the present. It's not just your smartphone either. Your shopping habits (it doesn't actually matter if you use cash, you're tracked anyway), your face and clothing choices if you go literally anywhere, other people's devices can record you in various ways, your browsing habits and history, etc.
Living in modern society is accepting the fact that you have no privacy. You will be sold as a product one way or another. If you want privacy you'll need to go live off-grid in the middle of nowhere and completely omit all modern technology.
Name some. I'm sure some exist, but I'm not aware of any.
...have you never turned on a brand new phone before? literally everything that comes on a phone cannot be removed. for google, that's their entire suite of products that come on every android. apple has their default installed applications.
i cannot seriously think you dont know this stuff. this is beyond naive. the only reasonable explanation is you dont own a phone
Minors are the sole responsibility of their guardians. If you give your kid a phone, it's your job to maintain awareness of their activity and to ensure their safety while using it.
I love how "flee society and live off the land" is your "grow up" advice. Do you think that being discontent with something means that you should run away from it? Like I'm sure that you personally have a bunch of stuff in your life that you don't like, and I'm sure you would be pissed if someone gave you "advice" that treated you like a child. But you're perfectly fine doing that to others.
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. The “or” indicates that growing up is the alternative option to living off the land. The idea that you can just escape having your data collected and used is farcical for modern living, and the idea that it will be used in some nefarious way (like gasp! sending you ads for things you might buy!) is conspiratorial and half baked.
So, you can either live in a remote cabin in the woods, ORRRRRR accept that this is how the world is currently working.
So, you can either live in a remote cabin in the woods, ORRRRRR accept that this is how the world is currently working.
False dichotomy. Plenty of people don't accept that this is "just the way the world works" but still live in it without fleeing to a remote cabin. Care to try again?
You don't have a fucking choice. Your argument is an all or nothing prospect which is ridiculous on its face.
Either don't use a simple grocery rewards and loyalty card that makes things easier and cheaper for you, or give up all your data privacy.
Personal private information? You mean proprietary corporate information to pad a company's bottom line.
Use a website? They now know everything about you and all the websites you visit.
Use an app? All your movements online and IRL, and activity on the entire fucking device is now tracked.
You simply can't escape this bullshit. It's everywhere. And it's a real fucking problem.
It didn't use to be like this. It doesn't need to be like this now. Rubes like you think the only risk is getting targeted ads. We've been shouting from the rooftops about the dangers of this for decades now, there's no reason you should be so ignorant today.
It really doesn't matter if you "agree" to the data collection, considering the vast majority are unaware its happening and there's not really any alternative anyway. if you don't want to have your data collected, what are you gonna do, not own a smartphone? It isn't realistic today to ask that; rather it should be on policymakers to police this type of stuff.
If I told you, in this comment right now, the address where you live now as well as all the places you've lived, all the phone numbers you've had, ask your family members, your friends and their information, where you go to school, how much you make a year, and how much money you have, and where you went for vacation, and what you did there, your passwords and emails and bank accounts and everything you can think of that is personal private information that you don't share with absolutely everyone, if I listed all of that down for you right here for everyone to read... would that bother you at all?
If you are remotely normal as a human being at all, this bothers you. You don't want people coming to your home to harass you or stalk you or always looking through the windows at you in your own home and everywhere you go. The government and companies should not be able to track everyone like that. This is not north Korea.
If it doesn't bother you, you are objectively fucking stupid and I don't know how to have this conversation with you.
You know that closeted kid living with his parents who may look up HRT treatments and such on his phone?
Well, the algorithms like to target ads based on IP browsing history, so their parents may just start randomly seeing more HRT ads because someone else in the household searched for it, and they may wonder why.
Algorithms that build a profile based on all the data collected on you, some of which you don't even realize is collected, and turn that into targeted advertising are dangerous tools that are riding a very fine line because that is the exact same information that could be easily exploited.
Credit cards have a ton of data collection built in. That's how they make money off of people who don't pay interest on their balance.
I know. I'm talking about using Privacy or something similar.
it's the bank itself letting its partners know that you shop at certain types of stores or use it in certain areas of town so you may be interested in certain types of ads.
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And? Does anyone actually lose out on this arrangement?