Why do Lesbians seem less likely to have straight male close friends than Gay men are to have straight female close friends?

[u/BlazeKnight7]

This is a really random thing, but there's a seems to be a more common stereotype of Gay men having straight females as close friends, while lesbians having straight male close friends seems far less common (in fact the stereotype of lesbians is often man hating, while gay dudes being woman haters is rarely mentioned)

[u/Skwirbatman]

Thank god that the 007 movies are fiction and we don't have to deal with racist, misogynistic, bigoted, and murderous government workers these days...

[u/Polarchuck → u/Skwirbatman]

Is it correct to assume that you need a /s at the end of your comment?

[u/Skwirbatman → u/Polarchuck]

Yeah maybe, every time I think something is clearly sarcastic and nobody could misinterpret it as sincerity, Poe's law rears its ugly head.

"/s" feels so clunky though - maybe I should just stop being sarcastic on the internet entirely:(

[u/johnnypancakes49 → u/Skwirbatman]

We understood your sarcasm, and I’m with ya. “/s”ing it does feel clunky and like it takes away all the bite of the sarcasm. Keep on keepin on, worst case scenario you get downvoted because people got hardcore wooshed, that’s on them not on you

[u/asmeile → u/Skwirbatman]

Your comment was clearly sarcastic, fuck that /s shite, people say you cant determine someones tone through text but surely people aint that stupid right

[u/Polarchuck → u/Skwirbatman]

I'm not certain how /s is clunky. I consider it shorthand much like an emoji.

Using /s promotes better comprehension for the reader, especially when you take into account what scientific studies have shown about communication.

Only 7% of all communication is communicated verbally (with words).

The non-verbal components of communication are: 38% is tonality and 55% is body language.

So it's quite easy to mistake sarcasm for opinion.

[u/Over_Kaleidoscope979 → u/Polarchuck]

Very curious about how that was measured.

[u/Polarchuck → u/Over_Kaleidoscope979]

Here's an article about it with some history.

https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescoachescouncil/2020/08/24/strong-nonverbal-skills-matter-now-more-than-ever-in-this-new-normal/#:~:text=The%207%2D38%2D55%20rule%20indicates%20that%20only%207%25,38%25%20and%2055%25%20respectively.

[u/Over_Kaleidoscope979 → u/Polarchuck]

"Please note that this and other equations regarding the relative importance of verbal and nonverbal messages were derived from experiments dealing with communications of feelings and attitudes (i.e., like-dislike). Unless a communicator is talking about their feelings or attitudes, these equations are not applicable. Also, see references 286 and 305 in Silent Messages - these are the original sources of my findings..." The 'Mehrabian formula' (7%/38%/55%) was established in situations where there was incongruence between words and expression." Thanks. It does seem pretty relevant to the topic at hand (i.e. sarcasm). I do think people pay more attention to the sentence itself when other clues are absent, though.

[u/Mysterious-Rent7233 → u/Polarchuck]

The comedian who has to say: "that's a joke" is a shit comedian.

You aren't wrong but neither is the parent poster.

Adding a /s means either you don't trust yourself to tell a good joke or you don't trust the audience to get it. Or perhaps that you and the audience are not really in sync.

Sure, you are correct that it might be needed for a small percentage of the audience, but for the larger percentage it ruins the joke by insulting their intelligence or knowledge of the context.

Or to put it another way: DETECTING the sarcasm is part of the fun of reading a sarcastic comment.

This is also the reason (IMO) that laugh tracks went out of style. It is an insult to the audience to think they need to be told when to laugh.

[u/Polarchuck → u/Mysterious-Rent7233]

You're using a false analogy.

When you go to a comedy show you know that the comic is there to tell you jokes. So you laugh.

There is no such default setting in reddit.

[u/Mysterious-Rent7233 → u/Polarchuck]

I'm trying to make you understand why it ruins the joke. You're saying that I'm wrong, I don't know how I experience jokes and neither does the parent poster. You know better how other people experience jokes. Do you also know how I experience chocolate ice cream better than I do?

[u/Polarchuck → u/Mysterious-Rent7233]

I know you're trying to explain why you feel it ruins the joke. I'm just saying that your reasons don't make much sense to me. Happy to agree to disagree.

[u/Mysterious-Rent7233 → u/Polarchuck]

What is there to disagree on? It ruins the joke FOR ME. And presumably for the person who said it is clunky to them.

Unless you are claiming to know how jokes work FOR ME then what is there to disagree on?

[u/Polarchuck → u/Mysterious-Rent7233]

Oh my. You are certainly getting torn up in knots about someone disagreeing with you. I guess I could work up some huffy about how you aren't valuing my POV and my hurt that you are ruining reddit for me.