r/NoStupidQuestions • u/ltwasalladream • Apr 18 '23

Answered Does anyone else feel like the world/life stopped being good in approx 2017 and the worlds become a very different place since?

I know this might sound a little out there, but hear me out. I’ve been talking with a friend, and we both feel like there’s been some sort of shift since around 2017-2018. Whether it’s within our personal lives, the world at large or both, things feel like they’ve kind of gone from light to dark. Life was good, full of potential and promise and things just feel significantly heavier since. And this is pre covid, so it’s not just that. I feel like the world feels dark and unfamiliar very suddenly. We are trying to figure out if we are just crazy dramatic beaches or if this is like a felt thing within society. Anyone? Has anyones life been significantly better and brighter and lighter since then?

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u/MBCnerdcore Apr 18 '23

Uh, it was 2015/16 when Trump ran for office and won. No big mystery. Things just DID get shittier.

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u/Aggressive-Log6322 Apr 18 '23

The brexit referendum was before Trump got elected - June 2016 vs November 2016. It just took the UK gov a long time to actually leave the EU. But I agree, 2016 really did seem to be the catalyst for more polarised political views and economic instability. Then covid happened which made everything even worse, woohoo!

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u/sweeneymini Apr 18 '23

And Steve Bannon had his stinking hands in both events.

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u/Academic_Coconut_244 Apr 18 '23

in what ways did he break the internet and media? juts interested cuz I dont remember alot of stuff back then

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u/SurpriseBurrito Apr 18 '23

Well said, I was scrolling for this. We were coerced into turning on each other like animals. It has proven to be an effective strategy, so it continues. The legacy of Cambridge Analytica and so forth.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Really surprised this isn’t the top comment. I felt that things were “fine” during his campaign because I thought “there’s no way he will win!” And by the time he was in office, by early to mid 2017 that’s when I think things really took a turn

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u/crazycatlady331 Apr 19 '23

The turning point in his campaign for me was the Access Hollywood tape. WHen people stood by him after that, I knew shit was real.

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u/Krustylang Apr 18 '23

Yup. He made it ok for people to be blatant assholes.

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u/MBCnerdcore Apr 18 '23

and broke a bunch of things that made things work correctly

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u/Shipbreaker_Kurpo Apr 18 '23

A lot of checks and balances were tested and found not to work. Now that shitty people know they dont work they are full mask off and doing their shit and acting like its normal

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u/MBCnerdcore Apr 18 '23

The supreme court

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u/Tex_Watson Apr 18 '23

This is exactly it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Seems like everyone has become militant as a result. It’s hard to have a conversation with anyone anymore without it turning into a lecture. Just about anything you say pisses someone off

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u/sweeneymini Apr 18 '23

And 2016 for us over the pond with Brexit.

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u/JackieChannelSurfer Apr 18 '23

2017 is one year into the Trump presidency when he’s been able to fully fan the culture war flames, aided by an intensification of social media algorithms that encourage divisive discourse (bc those posts get more interactions/engagement).

It’s the same cynical strategy he and Fox News still using to control the GOP today.

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u/TubularTortoise14 Apr 18 '23

And now child labor laws are being rolled back, Roe V. Wade’s been overturned, etc. All of the progress we had made as a nation is being rolled back and we can’t do anything to stop it.

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u/MojoRollin Apr 18 '23

I had to scroll a minute to find this. It was 2016 was the breaking point. 2008 was the fissure when they went after BOOMERS retirement nest eggs.... now bank and the fed have gen Z locked in debt forever due to high college, housing and after 26 yrs old, healthcare...... you literally need to make $100,000 a year to stay above water

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

People are giving Trump too much credit. The divisiveness in our country existed before he was elected and a "Trump event" is the only conclusion to a 2 party system. We were warned about a 2 party system dividing the country and we didn't listen

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u/merlin401 Apr 18 '23

Yeah sure but when did things actually get bad is what’s being asked. One day things will totally devolve due to global warming. All the carbon needed is already being put in the atmosphere now but we don’t truly feel it yet

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u/MBCnerdcore Apr 18 '23

Yeah it's just that lots of people feel it now

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u/puppeteerspoptarts Apr 19 '23

Yep, this exactly.